Shifter cable bushing installed
#41
I'm having a couple of problems that I'm hoping someone could help me with.
Last week I installed the Comptech short shifter and it performed great. Last night I installed the metal cable shifter bushings along with the aluminum shifter housing bushings. After installing them I took the car for a test drive and everything seemed great. Shifts were short and solid.
Well driving my car today there is a considerable amount of slop in the shifting, but only in gears 2, 4, 6, and R. 6th gear is especially bad. The 1, 3, and 5 shifts feel exactly like they had before, but when shifting into 2, 4, or 6 it goes into gear easily, but instead of getting the definitive "click" it feels really mushy and even once it's in gear there is a lot of fore/aft movement and some side to side play as well.
The only thing I can think of is maybe the short shifter came loose on the bottom of the stock shifter and it is causing the play, but it seems like there would be some play in all the gears instead of only the even numbered ones.
I just noticed this after I got to work today so I'll check things out when I get a chance, but I was hoping someone else may have experienced a similar problem and would be able to give me an easy fix.
Last week I installed the Comptech short shifter and it performed great. Last night I installed the metal cable shifter bushings along with the aluminum shifter housing bushings. After installing them I took the car for a test drive and everything seemed great. Shifts were short and solid.
Well driving my car today there is a considerable amount of slop in the shifting, but only in gears 2, 4, 6, and R. 6th gear is especially bad. The 1, 3, and 5 shifts feel exactly like they had before, but when shifting into 2, 4, or 6 it goes into gear easily, but instead of getting the definitive "click" it feels really mushy and even once it's in gear there is a lot of fore/aft movement and some side to side play as well.
The only thing I can think of is maybe the short shifter came loose on the bottom of the stock shifter and it is causing the play, but it seems like there would be some play in all the gears instead of only the even numbered ones.
I just noticed this after I got to work today so I'll check things out when I get a chance, but I was hoping someone else may have experienced a similar problem and would be able to give me an easy fix.
#42
Originally Posted by ASpecTSX
I'm having a couple of problems that I'm hoping someone could help me with.
Last week I installed the Comptech short shifter and it performed great. Last night I installed the metal cable shifter bushings along with the aluminum shifter housing bushings. After installing them I took the car for a test drive and everything seemed great. Shifts were short and solid.
Well driving my car today there is a considerable amount of slop in the shifting, but only in gears 2, 4, 6, and R. 6th gear is especially bad. The 1, 3, and 5 shifts feel exactly like they had before, but when shifting into 2, 4, or 6 it goes into gear easily, but instead of getting the definitive "click" it feels really mushy and even once it's in gear there is a lot of fore/aft movement and some side to side play as well.
The only thing I can think of is maybe the short shifter came loose on the bottom of the stock shifter and it is causing the play, but it seems like there would be some play in all the gears instead of only the even numbered ones.
I just noticed this after I got to work today so I'll check things out when I get a chance, but I was hoping someone else may have experienced a similar problem and would be able to give me an easy fix.
Last week I installed the Comptech short shifter and it performed great. Last night I installed the metal cable shifter bushings along with the aluminum shifter housing bushings. After installing them I took the car for a test drive and everything seemed great. Shifts were short and solid.
Well driving my car today there is a considerable amount of slop in the shifting, but only in gears 2, 4, 6, and R. 6th gear is especially bad. The 1, 3, and 5 shifts feel exactly like they had before, but when shifting into 2, 4, or 6 it goes into gear easily, but instead of getting the definitive "click" it feels really mushy and even once it's in gear there is a lot of fore/aft movement and some side to side play as well.
The only thing I can think of is maybe the short shifter came loose on the bottom of the stock shifter and it is causing the play, but it seems like there would be some play in all the gears instead of only the even numbered ones.
I just noticed this after I got to work today so I'll check things out when I get a chance, but I was hoping someone else may have experienced a similar problem and would be able to give me an easy fix.
#43
Originally Posted by Audioserf
I'd say it's worth checking the short shifter. Did you screw in the hex-key bolts on BOTH sides of the shifter extension? And did you make sure you had it wedged down as far as you possibly could before screwing it on? It takes some pressure to really get it on there good.
Sounds like the SS fell off or wasn't completely seated to begin with.
#45
Originally Posted by Audioserf
JTso, I have for you questions two:
1) Do the bushings come with instructions for disassembling/removing the intake to get to them? Failing that is there a place online I can get this information?
2)Where can I get two new OEM cotter pins since the included ones reputedly suck?
Crap, that turned out to be three questions after all!
1) Do the bushings come with instructions for disassembling/removing the intake to get to them? Failing that is there a place online I can get this information?
2)Where can I get two new OEM cotter pins since the included ones reputedly suck?
Crap, that turned out to be three questions after all!
#46
Originally Posted by mugen88
Also interested in the abovw Q's can sum one answer this thanks.
You can pick up some cotter pins at any auto parts/hardware store. I got a pack with about 15 different pins in various sizes at Autozone for under $2. The stock ones are junk so it's a worthwhile purchase.
#47
Originally Posted by Audioserf
JTso, I have for you questions two:
1) Do the bushings come with instructions for disassembling/removing the intake to get to them? Failing that is there a place online I can get this information?
2)Where can I get two new OEM cotter pins since the included ones reputedly suck?
Crap, that turned out to be three questions after all!
1) Do the bushings come with instructions for disassembling/removing the intake to get to them? Failing that is there a place online I can get this information?
2)Where can I get two new OEM cotter pins since the included ones reputedly suck?
Crap, that turned out to be three questions after all!
1. No, since the bushings are shared among other models, no instructions are provide on removing the intake. I would suggest searching on this site for intake install. Some people have posted steps to remove the stock intake tube.
2. Any auto parts stores will carry the cotter pins. Just bring the old one to match.
#48
I removed the center console after I got home from work tonight and the short shifter is still securely attached. It seems that I broke the part (rod?) that connects to the bushing itself and each time I shift into an even gear it is bending rather than securely engaging the gear. I attached a photo below indicating the part that I broke. Could someone help me out with the part # (or even the actual name) of the part I need to replace?
#49
I imagine that would be rather hard to break. I know that when I installed my bushings that peticular bushing was rather tough to install.
Moda_way would be able to hook you up with the necessary part info
Moda_way would be able to hook you up with the necessary part info
#50
Originally Posted by TSX2345
I imagine that would be rather hard to break. I know that when I installed my bushings that peticular bushing was rather tough to install.
Moda_way would be able to hook you up with the necessary part info
Moda_way would be able to hook you up with the necessary part info
When I was prying out the bushing my hand slipped and I pulled it up towards me and actually felt it bend, but wasn't sure if I had broken it or not. Guess I know now.
#52
If weather permits I will be doing the cable bushing install (along with my Injen CAI) over this holiday weekend. I need to stop by AutoZone and hopefully find some cotter pins, because I'd rather not use the ones the bushings come with if they are crap. I also need some of that grease.
I will let everyone know how it goes!
I will let everyone know how it goes!
#53
Originally Posted by Audioserf
If weather permits I will be doing the cable bushing install (along with my Injen CAI) over this holiday weekend. I need to stop by AutoZone and hopefully find some cotter pins, because I'd rather not use the ones the bushings come with if they are crap. I also need some of that grease.
I will let everyone know how it goes!
I will let everyone know how it goes!
I have noticed that shifting into 1st gear is not nearly as chukny and solid as it was before I did the bushings. Overall I notice no real difference other than 1st gear. If I could go back and have skipped this mod, I would. I kept the OEM bushings but I'm debating whether it's worth ripping out my CAI to get at the cables again.
Anyone have other suggestions to get rid of 1st gear's mushiness before I put the stock bushing back on the upper cable?
#54
Originally Posted by Audioserf
If I could go back and have skipped this mod, I would.
Originally Posted by xizor
I did mine today, and I can't really say I like them so far.
mine's not mushy, but I didn't really like the result. and I mutilated my bushing taking it out.
#56
Anyone else who's done this mod, and didn't use the washer on the smaller bushing (because it wouldn't fit) - did it leave slack on that bushing? Do you experience any loss of solidity shifting, particularly into first?
Looking for feedback here... really appreciate any.
Looking for feedback here... really appreciate any.
#58
I'm actually sort of worried now, because this morning I had to re-try to get into 1st - much like many cars have you try R a second time to get in. And this is only occuring in 1st gear - 2 thru 6 are good to go. I'd be concerned at having bent one of the rods, like the previous poster, but wouldn't that affect more than one gear?
#59
Originally Posted by Audioserf
I'm actually sort of worried now, because this morning I had to re-try to get into 1st - much like many cars have you try R a second time to get in. And this is only occuring in 1st gear - 2 thru 6 are good to go. I'd be concerned at having bent one of the rods, like the previous poster, but wouldn't that affect more than one gear?
#60
Originally Posted by Audioserf
I'm actually sort of worried now, because this morning I had to re-try to get into 1st - much like many cars have you try R a second time to get in. And this is only occuring in 1st gear - 2 thru 6 are good to go. I'd be concerned at having bent one of the rods, like the previous poster, but wouldn't that affect more than one gear?
What happened in my situation is that I broke this sleeve right at the bracket where the ball sits and it was no longer keeping my cable straight, making the 2, 4, 6, and R shifts very sloppy. I ended up replacing both shifter cables with no problems, even with no instructions.
It probably doesn't help you at all, but when I broke this piece I still had no trouble getting into 1st.
#62
I've decided to re-install the OEM bushings. I am just really not liking the feel of these metal ones. My shifter (Comptech SS, metal shifter housing bushings, Skunk2 knob) felt completely perfect to me before I did this mod, and I now really regret messing with a good thing. I just hope putting the OEM's back in fixes this.
#64
Originally Posted by moda_way
That's a first I think I've seen. Someone going back out of dislike. I wonder if your cables are misaligned or if something else is broken.
I don't like fishing for 1st gear. I also find that the shifter itself has more play, even while in gear, now.
#65
Originally Posted by Audioserf
I seriously hope not! I'll find out today... I'm going to take out from work a little early to get this done with daylight on my side. All I know is everything was perfect before I put the metal ones in - ideally, I did not bend/break anything during the installation, and putting the rubber bushings back in will restore everything to its once glorious state.
I don't like fishing for 1st gear. I also find that the shifter itself has more play, even while in gear, now.
I don't like fishing for 1st gear. I also find that the shifter itself has more play, even while in gear, now.
#66
Ok, I have good news, and I have bad news.
The good news is I think I know what's wrong with my setup.
The bad news is I don't know how to fix it.
I went to remove the metal bushings today. Starting with the top, smaller bushing, I removed the cotter pin and C clamp and found myself completely unable to budge the cable from the bushing. Then it hit me: I only lubed the pin when I initially installed them. I did not apply any lube to the outside of the bushings themselves, which are surrounded by the metal ring attached to the cable. The metal ring and the bushing appear to be locked together now. I was completely unable to seperate them. I'm stuck with the metal bushings.
Is there any possible way I can loosen them? And do you think this lack of lube is what's causing me problems in the first place?
As long as the car continues driving as it has been, I'm content to leave well enough alone. I just hope this won't lead to problems down the road.
The good news is I think I know what's wrong with my setup.
The bad news is I don't know how to fix it.
I went to remove the metal bushings today. Starting with the top, smaller bushing, I removed the cotter pin and C clamp and found myself completely unable to budge the cable from the bushing. Then it hit me: I only lubed the pin when I initially installed them. I did not apply any lube to the outside of the bushings themselves, which are surrounded by the metal ring attached to the cable. The metal ring and the bushing appear to be locked together now. I was completely unable to seperate them. I'm stuck with the metal bushings.
Is there any possible way I can loosen them? And do you think this lack of lube is what's causing me problems in the first place?
As long as the car continues driving as it has been, I'm content to leave well enough alone. I just hope this won't lead to problems down the road.
#67
whoa... I'd try some spray lube and see if you can remove the bushing to properly lube with grease.
Be warned though that if you are messy with the lube, you won't have any grip to hold on to the linkage with.
Be warned though that if you are messy with the lube, you won't have any grip to hold on to the linkage with.
#68
I'd try warming the assembly. We're 25 F here in Ohio and that is never good to pull metal apart. If that doesn't work, then try the lube.... not the reverse or you may find yourself in a real pinch.
#69
Originally Posted by moda_way
I'd try warming the assembly. We're 25 F here in Ohio and that is never good to pull metal apart. If that doesn't work, then try the lube.... not the reverse or you may find yourself in a real pinch.
While I had the cotter pin off, I did lube and install the thinner (think almost white paper) bushing off the OEM top bushing. The thicker one wouldn't fit but I figure, it's better than nothing. I also lubed the pin again, where the slack on the cable would allow me to. Subsequent driving has left it feeling much better than it did before. I'd almost go as far as saying it's back to its old self - 1st gear is more solid again.
Do I really need to worry about lubing the bushings now? The mental picture I have of the cable motion doesn't have the bushings moving or rotating much if at all within the circular metal couplings. If there's not risk for damage I may leave it be.
#70
The lube is totally necessary. Though you may not think the friction is anything, metal to metal wear gets loose over time as the bushings wear down. Next thing you know they are so loose you get more play. Just take the time to lube them up. Its worth it.
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