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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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replacing foglights

i want to replace them brighter foglight, i've seen really bright foglights. what temp is that??? is it easy to replace bulb?? i heard there are many fakes out there do you guys know any websites sell legit bulbs??? let me know!
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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i'm currecntly thinking about getting philips 4100k bulbs for the foglight how bright is that compare to oem bulbs?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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these are the bulbs i have and they look great, they almost look like the head lights

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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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wow, they do look great, is tsx h11?? right??? and i assume you're running 4100k? how is it? no issues?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Color temperature and brightness are two different things. Regular halogen is around 3200K so I'd say that's what the stock foglights are around.

You'd probably be happy with something like this.

Its not hard to replace the bulbs, it just requires a little crawling on the ground and a good deal of patience.

Oh yeah, and do a search, lots of good info has already been posted on this site about replacement foglights, how to replace them, etc.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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be careful with using hotter bulbs... the heat makes the glass brittle and that leads to a higher risk of breakage.... and if you use the protective films you run the risk of them browning faster/easier....
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dmbfan36_23
be careful with using hotter bulbs... the heat makes the glass brittle and that leads to a higher risk of breakage.... and if you use the protective films you run the risk of them browning faster/easier....
Higher color temperature doesn't necessarily imply a higher operating temperature. A color temperature refers to the spectra of light that a black body object will radiate when heated to that temperature in degrees Kelvin. Think of how a piece of metal heated in an oxyacetylene torch will turn from deep red to amber to yellow to white, as it gets hotter.

In other words, a 4100K bulb gives off the color of light that a black body object heated to 4100K does (6920 degrees Fahrenheit). A black body object just means an object with no specific coloring of its own.

More on color temperature here.

Now, a word of caution regarding the higher color temp bulbs - they usually don't last nearly as long as regular halogens. As mentioned above, a tungsten halogen lamp has a specific color output of its own. While they are much "whiter" than a normal incandescent lamp, their color output is still quite "yellow" when juxtaposed with a pure white light such as the TSX's stock HID low beams. To achieve the quasi-HID look from a halogen lamp, the excess yellow output of the filament must be removed. Look closely at the quartz glass envelope of those PIAA lamps that Eeyore linked to above. Note the bluish tint of the glass. The blue tint blocks the excess yellow output of the filament, which results in a more color-neutral output spectra. Thus, these bulbs have the nice white output of a HID bulb, but they're still good old halogens that run on an easy 12 volts, don't require fancy fixtures, ballasting, or high frequency switching power supplies to operate. The problem with this is, though, that when you filter out the excess yellow component of the output, you decrease the total lumen output of the lamp, resulting in a dimmer bulb. To compensate for this shortfall, manufacturers use a thinner filament that burns hotter and brighter, so the bulb is as bright as it needs to be, but with the desired white beam. The problem with this methodology is that by thinning out the filament and overdriving it to a higher operating temperature, the tungsten evaporates more quickly and bulb longevity suffers drastically. For example, a regular Sylvania halogen headlamp bulb has a lifetime rated at 2500 hours. Their Silverstar line, on the other hand, has a rated lifetime of only 50 hours by Sylvania themselves. And the Silverstars cost over twice as much.

As the saying goes, the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Before you pony up the bucks for some special high-temp halogen bulbs, make sure you find out what the manufacturer rates their service life at. If you're willing to deal with replacing them a lot more often, go for it. If you can find a high temp bulb with a good hour rating (they do exist), even better.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Great post rmpage.

Originally Posted by rmpage
a regular Sylvania halogen headlamp bulb has a lifetime rated at 2500 hours. Their Silverstar line, on the other hand, has a rated lifetime of only 50 hours by Sylvania themselves.
I ran Silverstars in my old Accord for a couple months and I almost wrote to the company because the bulbs were blowing every 2 or 3 weeks. Now I know why. Never looked at Sylvania's specs for them.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Im using the heon bulbs that are 55 watts, the color of them is great.There like a blueish white, and you cant beat the price of 29 dollars.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Whoops, Silverstars are rated at 150 hours, not 50. Still not much though.

More good info on tinted bulbs here: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...good/good.html


Edit: buncha Massholes up in hur!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:50 AM
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well i been doing some research, how about oem bulbs? for our headlghts and fog lights? what are they rated it at? i really like to drive with lights on(since you can see it better duh) and i been hearing good things about hoen, philips as well.. what's average life for hoen!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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I thought foglights are SUPPOSE to be yellowish for the best result under heavy fog condition. But for the looks, those heon looks great~
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rmpage
Edit: buncha Massholes up in hur!
I keep waiting for the day I see your car in Worcester, I've seen pics of your blue TSX so there would be no mistaking it.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Eeyore
I keep waiting for the day I see your car in Worcester, I've seen pics of your blue TSX so there would be no mistaking it.
I've seen a blue one on 495 but it isn't his.... I've kept my eye out as well....
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pizzaman555
these are the bulbs i have and they look great, they almost look like the head lights

heon
I had those on my 05 and they do match very well. I'm replacing mine on the 06 with Hoen's again as soon as they arrive...
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