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Old 12-20-2003 | 06:02 PM
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really how fast is it??

guuys wat is the actuall 0-60 time for a tsx automatic??

thnx ive heard 12 secs lol 8.5, 8.0 ,6.6

wich is correct im hoping 6.6
Old 12-20-2003 | 10:56 PM
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Its definitely not 12, but I don't have any solid numbers for you. (gunning it in SS mode from stop is just too quick for 12s)

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Old 12-20-2003 | 11:09 PM
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Take a look at this. It says it is in the low 7s.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7572
Old 12-20-2003 | 11:21 PM
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That's for the manual transmission. Still looking for some competent runs on the automatic.

I think you can get in the mid-7's with the AT, but I get pounded every time I say it, so I won't anymore.
Old 12-20-2003 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont
That's for the manual transmission. Still looking for some competent runs on the automatic.

I think you can get in the mid-7's with the AT, but I get pounded every time I say it, so I won't anymore.
lol

That's probably not far off for SS mode. It shifts kinda slow for my taste, but its not bad.

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Old 12-21-2003 | 12:20 AM
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Once I've fully broken in the car, I will try some 0-60 time myself, on a straight, unsloped road and clear day. Not sure how I can time myself though without someone else helping
Old 12-21-2003 | 02:10 AM
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Of course the best thing is to have several runs on a drag strip.

But untill then ...

We can probably take some kind of scientific approach to estimate the theoretical best 0-60 time for the 5AT. Use the 7.2 second 0-60 for the MT (best time we have) and add x amount of time for increased weight, drivetrain loss, shifting speed, and gear ratio difference. Come to think of it I suppose the software "Car Test" will do this for us. I dont trust the final number it comes out with ... but if we get it to estimate a time for the 6MT and then we make the changes I listed above for the 5AT, and note the difference in the times ONLY ... this may give us some ...somewhat accurate and scientific information.
Old 12-21-2003 | 07:40 PM
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Yeah, it's definately not 6.6. Go with the manual and you should get about 7.2-7.5. Auto is probably at least 8+.
Old 12-21-2003 | 11:20 PM
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Hmmm, sounds like once again nobody can answer this question.

My answer: feels quick enough for me. :P
Old 12-22-2003 | 04:37 PM
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wow 8 r u serious that slow

that dissapoints me
Old 12-22-2003 | 04:42 PM
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While you guys are still talking and hovering around 60mph, I found out yesterday that the engine cranks about 6500rpm @ 120mph on fifth gear
Old 12-22-2003 | 08:51 PM
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but yo is it really over 8??? 0-60 time cause i dont want a car with hesitation and i dont want a car that wont burnout??
will this cart do it ?? find out on the next episode of please answer my question lol
Old 12-22-2003 | 09:01 PM
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It is not over 8 secs at least with an MT. Reviwers and people who have "just" achieved 8+ secs have driven the TSX too politely and have not reached its potential. I myself have done 7.4.
Old 12-23-2003 | 01:07 AM
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ive read in some mags that it ranged anywhere from as high as 8.1 - 7.6 for the auto......... possibly 7.2 for the MT. Well obviously it aint a crotch rocket but very adequate pickup nontheless! Well i know she gets up to 40mph pretty quick when i gun her
Old 12-23-2003 | 04:51 PM
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k thnx guys but u promise there will be no hesitation??
Old 12-23-2003 | 05:07 PM
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raving...if you are so interesting in "burning out" and have a very fast car, then maybe this isnt the righ car for you. Your need to go for a good test drive and see how you like it. Maybe the rsx would suit you better. It also sounds like you might prefer the 6mt...so give both a shot.
Old 12-24-2003 | 11:34 AM
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I read numerous TSX reviews before buying. I seem to recall reading one, possibly a Canadian review if my memory serves, that had the AT about 0.4 - 0.5 sec. slower in the 0-100kph (0-62mph) time than the MT. Therefore, depending on whose numbers you believe, the AT 0-60 time will probably be somewhere in the mid 7s.
Old 12-24-2003 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by jlukja
I read numerous TSX reviews before buying. I seem to recall reading one, possibly a Canadian review if my memory serves, that had the AT about 0.4 - 0.5 sec. slower in the 0-100kph (0-62mph) time than the MT. Therefore, depending on whose numbers you believe, the AT 0-60 time will probably be somewhere in the mid 7s.
I agree, except you're probably sticking out your neck a bit too much putting it that way. I'd say "mid-to-high" 7's.

Again, it's important to emphasize that what we're talking about is WHAT THE CAR CAN ACHIEVE, meaning A REALLY GOOD RUN, not what some dumbass reviewer who doesn't give a damn might get.
Old 12-24-2003 | 11:45 AM
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I don't know if my tires are just getting worse @ 11k miles but if i'm at a stop light and punch the throttle on my at I can get a good dose of wheel spin.
Old 12-24-2003 | 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont

Again, it's important to emphasize that what we're talking about is WHAT THE CAR CAN ACHIEVE, meaning A REALLY GOOD RUN, not what some dumbass reviewer who doesn't give a damn might get.
Couldn't say it better. It is easy for a reporter who, for some reason, is prejudiced against a particular car, to not give his best run and show flawed numbers.

It can also happen that those reporters are not professionnal pilots, thus everyday drivers like you and me, not always able to figure out the cars they try in the few hours they are made available for them. They may even in some cases have to deal with having one of the manufacturer's employees in the right seat to watch and make sure no one abuses the cars, especially prototypes.
Old 12-24-2003 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by TinkySD
I don't know if my tires are just getting worse @ 11k miles but if i'm at a stop light and punch the throttle on my at I can get a good dose of wheel spin.
Cooler weather? Cooler pavement? I've seen a big difference when the temperatures drop below 40°F
Old 12-24-2003 | 01:01 PM
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I'm in san diego..weather never changes I put a k&n drop in in but i'm sure that didn't make a difference. I forgot to mention i have an AT, but i guess it goes to show you even with the automatic the tires are a somewhat limiting factor. I'm sure with better grip you could get much better burst off teh line with the AT.
Old 12-24-2003 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by jlukja
I read numerous TSX reviews before buying. I seem to recall reading one, possibly a Canadian review if my memory serves, that had the AT about 0.4 - 0.5 sec. slower in the 0-100kph (0-62mph) time than the MT. Therefore, depending on whose numbers you believe, the AT 0-60 time will probably be somewhere in the mid 7s.

The only published times for an AT, was in a canadian review and was over 9 seconds to 100km/h. I dont think the AT in stock trim will ever do under 8 seconds to 60. This is my opinion based on a test drive , what I know about the car, and the times I have seen for the MT.

I think 8 seconds flat is possible with the right drive in the right conditions.
Old 12-24-2003 | 01:56 PM
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in stock trim cartest estimates about an 8.3/16.2 0-60/ 1/4 With light wheels and tires that drops to 7.7/ 15.9 which is a very very good time for an AT in this class.
Old 12-24-2003 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by TinkySD
in stock trim cartest estimates about an 8.3/16.2 0-60/ 1/4 With light wheels and tires that drops to 7.7/ 15.9 which is a very very good time for an AT in this class.
Sounds about right to me.
Old 12-25-2003 | 01:05 AM
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The TSX is a quick car, there is no doubt about that; however, I wish they would have dropped the larger engine that they already are using in the Accord's.

Anybody seen any decent mod's for the TSX? Most of what is available is either a joke or too new to put in my car.
Old 12-25-2003 | 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by lhasson
The TSX is a quick car, there is no doubt about that; however, I wish they would have dropped the larger engine that they already are using in the Accord's.

Anybody seen any decent mod's for the TSX? Most of what is available is either a joke or too new to put in my car.
They did...it's called the TL.
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This is true; however, the TL is substantially larger, whereas the TSX is the perfect size. I only wish there was an option for it.
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if acura put a V6 in the car it would put it up against different competetors and it wouldnt survive. Its perfect with a I4 in it but i agree they could have tuned it better and could have gotten 240 hp out of it. if honda can make 100hp per liter in a b16 b18c5 and the s2000 they can do it with anymotor. its just if they want to or not.
Old 12-25-2003 | 05:15 PM
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I dont like the idea of bigger displacement engine in the TSX. It's already quite nose heavy. With a bigger and heavier engine, it will take away the fun of this car unless they can find away to shifting some weight to the rear.
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hey guys i went to acura they said the new AT does it in 6.6

so im not sure if hes lyingh either cause he called the
manufacturer and they told him 6.6

so all u guys wit 7.0 in mt thats either ure not shifting well enough or ure not timing ureself properly or im being lyed to which i do not think i am
Old 12-31-2003 | 01:27 PM
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How the hell did I miss this thread

In the few runs I performed with my wife in the drivers seat using my Timex, the best I could acheive with VSA on or off was 9.0 sec. I'm not saying thats the bible, but theres not a hope in hell an Auto will break the 8.0 sec barrier, or even 8.5 sec IMO.


Originally posted by ravingstylez
hey guys i went to acura they said the new AT does it in 6.6

so im not sure if hes lyingh either cause he called the
manufacturer and they told him 6.6

so all u guys wit 7.0 in mt thats either ure not shifting well enough or ure not timing ureself properly or im being lyed to which i do not think i am
Your being lied to. Maybe a 6MT going downhill can do a 6.6 run.


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if acura put a V6 in the car it would put it up against different competetors and it wouldnt survive
Everytime I hear this I We can all agree that the TSX is a great value and a great car. We all agree is considerably cheaper than a G35, A4, 325 9-3 etc. Yet somehow adding a V6 will hurt it. How exactly? The only thing that would hurt it would be pricing it too high and I think Honda would still make it cheaper than all that competition, even with a V6. Would a V6 somehow make it less superior than a 325 or A4 V6. I can't understand where that sentiment comes from?
Old 12-31-2003 | 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by ravingstylez
hey guys i went to acura they said the new AT does it in 6.6

so im not sure if hes lyingh either cause he called the
manufacturer and they told him 6.6

so all u guys wit 7.0 in mt thats either ure not shifting well enough or ure not timing ureself properly or im being lyed to which i do not think i am
I guess all the professional drivers that the magazines hire are not shifting well too.

LOL, you're pretty gulable. I've got some swamp land to sell you too
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The only thing that I think Acura should do is add a V6 option. With many cars in the luxury market offering a wide spectrum for all options it would be able to be more comparable to the Lexus and Infiniti cars.

There is no doubt that the TSX is superior in its styling; however, performance does lag in comparison.

One of the biggest things that this car has going for it is its amazing Navigational system. No other car in, below, or above it compare to it. In my recent research of car shopping all of the other Nav's suck. I mean suck beyond all reason of sucking. Audi's was a 2 x 3 inch screen with no visual map. BMW's wasn't even a touch screen, and Infinits made me laugh.

This car's nav is absolutley amazing and is definatley UNDER PRICED. If you are considering this car, do not buy it w/o, you'll regret it later.
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they do offer a v6, its called the TL
Old 12-31-2003 | 04:19 PM
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That's really starting to get annoying. You are the second person to tell me this. I really appreciate you telling me this, but what y'all seem to miss is that Lexus, Infiniti, and BMW all come with a V6 or an option for one.

Just as Lexus offers the IS with a 3 liter and a GS with a 3 liter. Or BMW offers the 330. It isn't as crazy as you might think.

Its not like Honda doesn't have a proven V6 that they could use.
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Dom, the 5AT is faster than you think.

It's not gonna break 7.0, but do yourself a favor and don't bet too much against it breaking 8.0.
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Originally posted by lhasson
That's really starting to get annoying. You are the second person to tell me this. I really appreciate you telling me this, but what y'all seem to miss is that Lexus, Infiniti, and BMW all come with a V6 or an option for one.

Just as Lexus offers the IS with a 3 liter and a GS with a 3 liter. Or BMW offers the 330. It isn't as crazy as you might think.

Its not like Honda doesn't have a proven V6 that they could use.
i know what you mean man, sorry to razz you. i was hoping the car came with a 6, but no such luck. with a 6 spd the car has plenty of power. can't speak on behalf of the auto.

i guess you can't have it all. i'll keep the tsx with the 4 and $5k in savings, vs a v6 tsx
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The 5AT has plenty of power for me. I can't tell you what it does 0-60, we all have our guesses. I can tell you that I have no problem merging into moving traffic when getting on the Pasadena Fwy. at Ave. 43.

For those of you unfamiliar with the on-ramp, the Pasadena Fwy. is the oldest freeway in the States and was designed for much slower traffic. For this reason the on and off ramps are very short. Also there is a stop sign at each on-ramp. So, on a mildly busy day you sit at the stop sign eyeing the traffic for an opening. When that opeing appears you stomp on the gas and try to merge without having the car behind you do a panic stop. My AT TSX handles this test with flying colors.
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Happy New Year!

Since Dom, who's a real nice guy, must be getting pissed off about how some people keep saying how fast the TSX "really" is..... I wondered if it's possible that this is one of those things where we're both kinda right.

First of all: Dom does his runs with a passenger (svelte though she may be). I've done mine with the car empty. Also I only did them when the tank was almost empty.

Also: Does climate/temperature affect a car's performance? Like, does a car do better when it's warmer? NY isn't exactly tropical but it's warmer than Toronto. Also, although Dom and I both got our cars around the same time (April), I did my runs right after break-in, which was in the late spring and early summer, when it was hot. I get the feeling Dom might not have given it a whirl until later on -- so putting it all together, his tries were in MUCH colder weather than mine. Is this a factor?

Just wondering.


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