npence

I posted this in a thread in Black Market, but I'm not sure if people would find it buried on the fifth page. I know several other people were interested too, so here's what I found out about the Pond grill in it's very own thread:

I spoke again with Tim @ Bulletproof, he says the price is $320 including shipping and they won't give any discount for a group buy. So, I guess we're on our own to each order should we want it. He does not guarantee fitment since it's made for the Japanese market, and can not accept a return if it doesn't fit. He says it comes unpainted. From the gloss in these pics, it looks like it just needs to be painted, but I can't tell if there's any chrome on there:





Anyway, from those pictures on Euro-R's, I'm guessing it will fit the TSX, so I think in the next week I'll order one! Here's the contact info:

Tim Willing (tim@bulletproofautomotive.com)
Bulletproof Automotive
310.327.763


I'm pretty excited to get this. I've got an NBP like the picture so I think it'll look really sharp on my car. Anybody else gonna get one?

accsuperstar

there will be slight fitment problems. all the aftermarket grills (and even the euro R) fit slightly different on our bumpers. leaves a small gap at the bottom

Dan Martin

I still can't figure out why Honda would put a different bumper on the TSX when the Euro-R looks identical.

BlackTSX

npence if you pick one up, let me know how you like it...i love that grille, just need to save up some money, Did he tell you how long it would take to get? I know Feels stuff would be about 4-5 weeks. Good Luck on the grille...def take pix when it comes in.

biker

For that much money :ripped:

Bananaairsoft

Different low speed crash regulations I think. That's why you don't see EVOs in Canada!

npence

He said about 2 months. Which is a really long time... but I can wait.
And as for it being really expensive, I've seen the kind of money people pour into their cars here. Considering that, I don't think it's too much.

Dan Martin

Won't that grille cut down on a lot of the airflow reaching the rad?

npence

Gosh, hope not. Looks like it won't be worse than the stock one.

Dan Martin

Stock is pretty well wide open save for the emblem in the middle. This one looks mostly closed off.

sauceman

Most of the airflow comes from under the bumper area. I wonder up to what extent would such a grill have an influence on cooling. Would it change something for A/C as well?

BlackTSX

Would it really change the air flow that much? I cant imagine that the airflow is changed that drastically.

xizor

although the grill airflow could cool the engine bay. Who knows, do a heat test before and after.

npence

Do you mean just check the heat gague on the instrument panel before and after, and see how the A/C works, or is there some more scientific way to do this?

xizor

place a heat sensor placed in the engine bay, or jump out quick and use a heat gun to measure the temp. probably superficial anyways, I don't think it'll do much.

Tsex on 19s

if my secret plan dont work muhahaha lol. then im going to get he pond grill... but as for now, im looking into the FEELs carbon fiber hood. not bad for 600 bucks.. anyone kno where i can get one.. and delivered pretty fast?

npence

Secret plan? Dude, you can't do that to us, fill us in.

Tsex on 19s

end of this month, its not tha secret lol, jus felt like saying it, but i might take a risk with the car.. we'll see...

BlackTSX

bulletproof auto has it but its more then 600 and itll take at least a month to get

dzuy

not my style. pond grill? needs to stay in the water

and tsex, carbon fiber hood eh?

Tsex on 19s

dzuy i want one.. but if feels is cheaper... then maybe go for that.... what u think? is there a big diff. also give me a few weeks dawg.. lol jus got done trainin at chili's ill be makin money soon as this pay week is over. lol

dzuy

i didn't even know feels made a hood, but i doubt it's 600, esp. since it's coming from japan, me, personally, have decided not to get anything for my car and save for a rainy day.

BlackTSX

$$$$ Feels hood is mu dinero!!!!! $$$$

Tsex on 19s

well how much is the hood? and dzuy make up your mind lol.. if you gotta steady income then im sure the rainy day issue should be fine... but i cant blame ya for thinkin like an adult, my immature mind isnt thinkin bout reality and only thinkin bout the car. but, i think ur decision deserves some rep points.. hehe, thas two today. but if u get the urge to mod. dont hold back.

Tsex on 19s

damnit dzuy gotta spread reputation around.. lol ill get back to ya on that... hooked black tsx with some points in the mean time. lol

BlackTSX

TSEX: the hood....through bulletproof automotive is about 1000$US for feels, the whole feels kit without hood was like $2200....there was a thread on here with the prices that bulletproof told me, ill try and find it.

BlackTSX

Carbon Hood: $1274 List - $1050 Your Cost
Front: $650 List - $585 Your Cost
Sides: $884 List - $725 Your Cost
Rear: $754 List - $625 Your Cost
Front Grill List - $390 List $350 Your Cost

here are the prices i recieved for the feels stuff from bulletproof automotive.

accsuperstar

wow and i thought the mugen grill was already $

xizor

its going to have to be painted, you're looking at over $400 total for it.

BlackTSX

Exactly, thats the one problem with the POND grille also, its 325 so itll be around 400 or so after everything

dzuy

there are two problems with the pond grill

1. it's ugly
2. it cost too much

that's more than the mugen and phase grill. crazy!

npence

Eh, I beg to differ. I'd call the Mugen grill ugly. I just don't like how it sits so far back in the inlet/grill space. But to each his own... we can agree to disagree.

dzuy

yea, i don't like the mugen grill anymore either.

BlackTSX

Yeah i think they are both pretty cool. The advantage of something like POND or Feels is that youd prob be one of the only people with it. The mugen is easier to get so more people have. THat said...i like both, but id take PonD or feels then mugen...money being no object

Deelover

the Pond grill looks like the kenstyle grill. I wanted the Kentsyle grill but it was more expensive than the Mugen. I opted for the Mugen.

Tsex on 19s

i personaly like the ponds grill, and i also like the feels grill, eventho it has that tooth sticking out... its different, which is catchin my eye more than the everyday mugen grill which soo many peeps have already

BlackTSX

Yeah the pond grill is pretty cool, i think that tooth in the feels grille is awesome

xizor

Hah, I'm guessing there is about 10-12 members here w/ Mugen grills. And almost all owners are on this forum, so yeah, not rare here, but way rare everywhere else.

BlackTSX

This is true, haha, i saw abotu 8-10 tsxs today and besides color all were the same but one or two had spoilers, so i guess your right mugen grills are popular here but prob not to many other places