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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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excellent news JTSO, does this mod smooth out gear changes even more?
I was already happy with the high rpm gear change improvement after switching to GM MTL. I can't feel it being smoother (it was already good) but it did feel more positive enagement in between shifts.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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so this damper will eliminate all cabin vibration?

i have vibration and its bugging me....

when will it be ready? is there one in the market already?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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so this damper will eliminate all cabin vibration?

i have vibration and its bugging me....

when will it be ready? is there one in the market already?
If you are using the stock engine mounts, then the damper won't help with your vibration. The damper does help if you replaced your engine mounts with poly insert mounts.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ck123
so this damper will eliminate all cabin vibration?

i have vibration and its bugging me....

when will it be ready? is there one in the market already?
this would probably add vibration...
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by xizor
this would probably add vibration...
not according to Jtso

Originally Posted by JTso
Zero in-cabin vibration and zero wheel hops during hard launches! .
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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how much trouble is it to replace motor mounts?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
not according to Jtso
It didn't add in-cabin vibration if set to the softest setting. However, it doesn't remove any existing vibration either. It will add vibration if set to a firmer setting and turn on AC.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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how much trouble is it to replace motor mounts?
Hard -- you have to drop the subframe. Why would you want to do that though? The whole point of an ETD is that it adds less cabin vibration than poly motor mounts. It will never SUBTRACT vibration from your car on its own. Read post #105 in this thread to understand.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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SyncroMesh?
Yes, Synchromesh - Friction Modified.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Good work JTso - just letting you know you have another Aussie interested in a setup that works with the Cusco tower brace.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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add me to the waiting list for a cusco one.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Yes, Synchromesh - Friction Modified.
That's the good stuff. Used it in my 92 Civic with Kaaz LSD (99 Si tranny)
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Any updates on this?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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I'd also be interested in this product
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Put me down for a non-Cusco one.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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I would love something like this
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Very nice!!

I have a tangent - how'd you keep your engine bay so clean?
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Anyone interested in the Spoon ETD setup?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Anyone interested in the Spoon ETD setup?
Spoon strut here
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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Update...

Just a quick update... I purchased a bandsaw yesterday and will be experiment with making the brackets in-house. I have also ordered a short ETD for test fitting a Cusco compatible setup.

I got the chrome one below.

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Just a quick update... I purchased a bandsaw yesterday and will be experiment with making the brackets in-house. I have also ordered a short ETD for test fitting a Cusco compatible setup.

I got the chrome one below.

nice hope it works out cause I will be on the cusco list. especially if you make one nice and clean looking and I would even pay more if you could polish it up.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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this is sounding really promising.

Just out of interest, does anyone know if more solid engine mounts or just inserts are made for the TSX?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_F
this is sounding really promising.

Just out of interest, does anyone know if more solid engine mounts or just inserts are made for the TSX?
The front engine mount on the TSX is electronically controlled via a solenoid and engine vacuum. No aftermarket engine mount that I know of.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Just a quick update... I purchased a bandsaw yesterday and will be experiment with making the brackets in-house. I have also ordered a short ETD for test fitting a Cusco compatible setup.
I should drive up to your shop for a test fit of Cusco setup.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JTso
The front engine mount on the TSX is electronically controlled via a solenoid and engine vacuum. No aftermarket engine mount that I know of.
Add me to the Australian list for Cusco one, keep up the great work.

Can someone explain what the engine mount electronic control actually does and how?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mugen88
Add me to the Australian list for Cusco one, keep up the great work.

Can someone explain what the engine mount electronic control actually does and how?
ENGINE MOUNT SYSTEM (Source = Honda)

Since the engine is the heaviest concentrated component in a vehicle, and the source of significant vibration, the mounting system that supports it has a profound effect on interior noise levels, handling and overall driving characteristics. Isolating the engine from the body with "soft" mounts can make for good NVH characteristics, but wreak havoc on handling and driveline performance as the engine moves on its mounts. Conversely, locking the engine in place (like in a racing machine) is the best from a handling standpoint, but guarantees unbearable NVH performance. For the TSX, neither extreme was appropriate. The TSX uses a carefully orchestrated system of six mounts to combine impressively high levels of isolation with stable engine placement for precise handling.

Two mounts are placed below the TSX engine's center of gravity, and attach the engine to the front subframe, which itself is isolated from the car's body by bolted rubber mounts. The forward-most of these two "center of gravity" engine mounts is an electronically controlled hydraulic unit with variable dual-mode stiffness. It switches between a setting optimized for damping vibration at idle, and another firmer setting for higher speeds and rougher roads. The rear most of the center of gravity mounts is a non-adjusting hydraulic unit.

To keep the engine properly positioned during severe maneuvering, another electronically controlled dual-mode mount is placed high on the right side of the engine to tie it to the body structure. Finally, to carry the weight of the transmission and limit powertrain movement, a series of three mounts position the transmission.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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ENGINE MOUNT SYSTEM (Source = Honda)

Since the engine is the heaviest concentrated component in a vehicle, and the source of significant vibration, the mounting system that supports it has a profound effect on interior noise levels, handling and overall driving characteristics. Isolating the engine from the body with "soft" mounts can make for good NVH characteristics, but wreak havoc on handling and driveline performance as the engine moves on its mounts. Conversely, locking the engine in place (like in a racing machine) is the best from a handling standpoint, but guarantees unbearable NVH performance. For the TSX, neither extreme was appropriate. The TSX uses a carefully orchestrated system of six mounts to combine impressively high levels of isolation with stable engine placement for precise handling.

Two mounts are placed below the TSX engine's center of gravity, and attach the engine to the front subframe, which itself is isolated from the car's body by bolted rubber mounts. The forward-most of these two "center of gravity" engine mounts is an electronically controlled hydraulic unit with variable dual-mode stiffness. It switches between a setting optimized for damping vibration at idle, and another firmer setting for higher speeds and rougher roads. The rear most of the center of gravity mounts is a non-adjusting hydraulic unit.

To keep the engine properly positioned during severe maneuvering, another electronically controlled dual-mode mount is placed high on the right side of the engine to tie it to the body structure. Finally, to carry the weight of the transmission and limit powertrain movement, a series of three mounts position the transmission.
Thanks Jtso,
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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I just received my short ETD today and it came with one extra set of bushings. I got curious and decided to take it apart as well as my long ETD to see how it works.

It turns out the unit is not a gas shock. It's a friction unit that utilizes bushings. It consists of a nylon bushing which pushes against two additional bushings causes them to expand and compress inside the ETD body. The preload sets the initial stiffness. The short version has the option of poly bushings or rubber bushings (interchangeable). The NRG is a really nice piece.

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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I just received my short ETD today and it came with one extra set of bushings. I got curious and decided to take it apart as well as my long ETD to see how it works.

It turns out the unit is not a gas shock. It's a friction unit that utilizes bushings. It consists of a nylon bushing which pushes against two additional bushings causes them to expand and compress inside the ETD body. The preload sets the initial stiffness. The short version has the option of poly bushings or rubber bushings (interchangeable). The NRG is a really nice piece.

Damn, that look nice.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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A Cusco compatible bracket is being cut right now. Anyone knows if the Spoon strut bar uses the same mounting method as the Cusco?
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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wow, the energy one really does look nice... such a simple concept but it works so well. Cant wait to see the cusco one fitted
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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Wow it looks great! BTW JTso, have you added me to your pre-order list for the Cusco-compatible one?

BTW, which car does the NRG ETD that you bought fit on?
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
A Cusco compatible bracket is being cut right now. Anyone knows if the Spoon strut bar uses the same mounting method as the Cusco?


it goes under the existing one and uses the 3 bolts not used by the oem, I'd be happy to try out the Spoon ETD if you need a mule
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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it goes under the existing one and uses the 3 bolts not used by the oem, I'd be happy to try out the Spoon ETD if you need a mule
It looks like the Cusco compatible bracket should also work with the Spoon. However, keep in mind the stock strut bar has to come off. It looks cleaner with one bar anyway.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Wow it looks great! BTW JTso, have you added me to your pre-order list for the Cusco-compatible one?

BTW, which car does the NRG ETD that you bought fit on?
The NRG ETD that I got is for a 96-00 D15, but it really doesn't matter because the ETD itself is the same.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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The Cusco/Spoon compatible bracket is done! It's being painted right now but here is a pics of the shock tower bracket. The fitment is very good and clears everything. However, like I mentioned before, the stock bar has to come off. The engine mount bracket is the same.

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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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The short ETD is installed and working well. The bracket seems to be holding up just fine, no signs of stress or bending. It has very mininum vibration with AC on even at a firmer setting, which is better than the my first ETD.









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