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Old May 9, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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J's Exhaust

J's releasing a full cat-back titanium exhaust for TSX(EuroR).

I just read on AJ Racing website. Price is approximately same as Fujitsubo, so, I think it is a very good alternative esp when it is full titanium.

Will email AJ for more info
Old May 9, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Definitely give us some more info and pics when you have it, thanks!
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
J's releasing a full cat-back titanium exhaust for TSX(EuroR).

I just read on AJ Racing website. Price is approximately same as Fujitsubo, so, I think it is a very good alternative esp when it is full titanium.

Will email AJ for more info
You confused me when i 1st read. I was like.. WTH? Full Titanium Cat-Back for the price of Fujitsubo $850. Make it more clear, Dude.
Old May 9, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bender Unit
You confused me when i 1st read. I was like.. WTH? Full Titanium Cat-Back for the price of Fujitsubo $850. Make it more clear, Dude.
listed as 1k US lol. but i still think it is a steal to have full titanium cat back at that price. Pretty famous brand in Japan too.

now, stick with ur 1/2 titanium, hee hee
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Titanium is light but the exhaust could be pretty loud....the thin walls allow a lot of noise into the cabin!
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
listed as 1k US lol. but i still think it is a steal to have full titanium cat back at that price. Pretty famous brand in Japan too.
Wait a minute, the only 1 list on AJ Racing website for CL-9 is J's Racing 60RS Titanium Muffler for $1040US. Isn't it only the muffler or you are talking about different one?
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now, stick with ur 1/2 titanium, hee hee
What are you talking about, I don't know You
Old May 9, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Definitely looked like it will be very loud, but it look good if you want all out power and don't mind the noise.

If I have a Civic or Integra, I would definitely look into it, may be even the 70mm one for all out power. But for my TSX, I definitely want something quieter and low key like the Fujitsubo.
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Oh, Titanium has a thinner wall...damn, well titanium is out for me because I'm done with the loud cabin noise.
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i've been wanting a titanium exhuast forever.

let it be known, if a titanium exhuast comes out, i'm selling my comptech.
Old May 10, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bender Unit
Wait a minute, the only 1 list on AJ Racing website for CL-9 is J's Racing 60RS Titanium Muffler for $1040US. Isn't it only the muffler or you are talking about different one?

What are you talking about, I don't know You
LOL i don't know details man. I will post more info after talking to them.
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Originally Posted by MC-CL7
Definitely looked like it will be very loud, but it look good if you want all out power and don't mind the noise.

If I have a Civic or Integra, I would definitely look into it, may be even the 70mm one for all out power. But for my TSX, I definitely want something quieter and low key like the Fujitsubo.
100% wrong. My titanium muffler is even more quiet than fujitsubo... or may be the same. BUT for sure, it is not loud. Very deep tone too, sounds the best along all exhaust available for CL7/CL9, IN MY OPINION.

So, not only material, also depends on how they design/build it.
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
100% wrong. My titanium muffler is even more quiet than fujitsubo... or may be the same. BUT for sure, it is not loud. Very deep tone too, sounds the best along all exhaust available for CL7/CL9, IN MY OPINION.

So, not only material, also depends on how they design/build it.
what titanium exhuast do you have?
Old May 10, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Oh, Titanium has a thinner wall...damn, well titanium is out for me because I'm done with the loud cabin noise.
again.

Titanium = thinner wall
Titanium =/= Loud.
that is so wrong.
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Originally Posted by dzuy
what titanium exhuast do you have?
I show u my pics already duzy.
Didn't i include the video too?
Old May 10, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
I show u my pics already duzy.
Didn't i include the video too?
you did? i cant remember.

i think you have mugen?

and no you didn't send me a vid.

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k k... i will make new one then send to you... planning to make a new one anyways
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i didn't even know the mugen is titanium.
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I might be interested as well
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Can you send me the video too please? i'm in the process of looking for alternatives to getting a 700 $ exhaust
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Originally Posted by lcrazyaznl
Can you send me the video too please? i'm in the process of looking for alternatives to getting a 700 $ exhaust
Mugen is about $1500...
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
Mugen is about $1500...
You Rich Bitch...
Update info. on the J's Exhaust... Everyone is waiting
Old May 17, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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any news on the j's exhuast?
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Mugen is not titanium.


Titaniums exhaust are louder than regular ones by my experience. Maybe it is not raspy or annoying, but they resonate more. Maybe this specific one is not as bad as others, but I WOULD BE LEARY OF A TITAN EXHAUST IF YOU WANT A QUIET RIDE.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Mugen is not titanium.
Both Mugen Mufflers are Titanium, Pipe & Resonator is Stainless Steel.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Mugen is not titanium.


Titaniums exhaust are louder than regular ones by my experience. Maybe it is not raspy or annoying, but they resonate more. Maybe this specific one is not as bad as others, but I WOULD BE LEARY OF A TITAN EXHAUST IF YOU WANT A QUIET RIDE.
Mugen is not titanium... woot!!! I suggest u to do some research before misleading other people. thx.

Totally wrong again!! it depends on the design. It is true that you can not alter the natural frequency of a material (i.e. what u call resonating). However, there is other things u can do. u CAN NOT just conclude that titanium exhaust are louder than regular ones just b/c the one u have tried before is louder. At least I won't say titanium is more quiet in general while the mugen muffler is made with titanium.
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Originally Posted by Bender Unit
Both Mugen Mufflers are Titanium, Pipe & Resonator is Stainless Steel.
Correct
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Don't have info on the exhaust yet... I will wait until they got the shipment, then go check it out in person.

will keep u update
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
Don't have info on the exhaust yet... I will wait until they got the shipment, then go check it out in person.

will keep u update
Take pictures, better yet... Take Me with You
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
Mugen is not titanium... woot!!! I suggest u to do some research before misleading other people. thx.
Yay, learn something new every day, new wrinkle in my brain.

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Totally wrong again!! it depends on the design. It is true that you can not alter the natural frequency of a material (i.e. what u call resonating). However, there is other things u can do. u CAN NOT just conclude that titanium exhaust are louder than regular ones just b/c the one u have tried before is louder. At least I won't say titanium is more quiet in general while the mugen muffler is made with titanium.

Please do not lecture me about exhaust. I know more about exhaust than most of the people here. I have had a lot of experience.

Yeah, maybe this titan exhaust is not too loud. But I still stand by my belief. The bottom line is, the entire point to using titanium is because it is stronger and allows a thinner wall material, resulting in a drastically lighter weight. Thinner walls are not going to insulate the sound as much and therefore are going to allow sound to rumble up through the floor of the car.

GENERALLY speaking, a titan exhaust is going to be louder inside the car. And by resonating I am referring to the reverberrating sound bouncing around inside the car, which is not necessarily a high pitched sound. Maybe noise out the muffler would not be so bad, but inside the car it could get annoying. If the Mugen exhaust is made of SS and the mufflers are titan, then that would explain the nicer sound. At that point, the titan use is purely for bling factor, not performance.
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So u stand by ur belief.

ok, since u know so much about exhaust and u have so much experience with various exhaust, u should have heard of Power House Amuse exhaust right? (if J's does not sounds familiar to you). Can you tell the people here the noise level of amuse exhaust compared to brand like Spoon, Blitz, Apexi, tannabe, or 5zigen (those that not using titanium)? Or u can use ARC titan exhaust for comparison too.

well... or just give some example that titan exhaust is much louder than non-titan. I would like to know too
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
So u stand by ur belief.

ok, since u know so much about exhaust and u have so much experience with various exhaust, u should have heard of Power House Amuse exhaust right? (if J's does not sounds familiar to you). Can you tell the people here the noise level of amuse exhaust compared to brand like Spoon, Blitz, Apexi, tannabe, or 5zigen (those that not using titanium)? Or u can use ARC titan exhaust for comparison too.

well... or just give some example that titan exhaust is much louder than non-titan. I would like to know too
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GENERALLY speaking, a titan exhaust is going to be louder inside the car. And by resonating I am referring to the reverberrating sound bouncing around inside the car, which is not necessarily a high pitched sound. Maybe noise out the muffler would not be so bad, but inside the car it could get annoying. If the Mugen exhaust is made of SS and the mufflers are titan, then that would explain the nicer sound. At that point, the titan use is purely for bling factor, not performance.
He said Generally speaking, and on top of that he said inside the car which is not referring to sounds outside the car (which is totally different). I know for sure that each exhuast will sound different on every car, so if you're saying you've ridden in the same make and model with a titan and non titan exhuasts and heard a difference on the inside then I guess you're right. but listening to cars with exhuasts drive by can't really give you a generalization of how loud the exhuast will resonate inside the car.
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I'm still waiting on someone to get the 5zigen Aspec proracer....
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Originally Posted by PixelHarmony
He said Generally speaking, and on top of that he said inside the car which is not referring to sounds outside the car (which is totally different). I know for sure that each exhuast will sound different on every car, so if you're saying you've ridden in the same make and model with a titan and non titan exhuasts and heard a difference on the inside then I guess you're right. but listening to cars with exhuasts drive by can't really give you a generalization of how loud the exhuast will resonate inside the car.
actually, these kind of comparisons are done in best motoring videos.

and the amuse r1 titan is pretty loud.
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Originally Posted by PixelHarmony
I'm still waiting on someone to get the 5zigen Aspec proracer....
it's not a ti. exhuast i thought.

i thought it was full stainless.

if it was dual, i would get it.

anyone want to buy my comptech
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So u stand by ur belief.

ok, since u know so much about exhaust and u have so much experience with various exhaust, u should have heard of Power House Amuse exhaust right? (if J's does not sounds familiar to you). Can you tell the people here the noise level of amuse exhaust compared to brand like Spoon, Blitz, Apexi, tannabe, or 5zigen (those that not using titanium)? Or u can use ARC titan exhaust for comparison too.

well... or just give some example that titan exhaust is much louder than non-titan. I would like to know too

First, learn how to spell and use the shift key. ur not doing much 4 ur own credibility hear


And no, I cannot tell everyone the noise level of all these exhausts. Besides, many of the manufacturers you list make multiple exhaust product lines. Is an A'PEXi World Sport loud? Compared to stock yes, but compared to an N-1 it is quiet. And yes, I have heard of Amuse.

I have not had every exhaust out there, and I am not trying to say I have. That is not the experience I have had. I have worked for an exhaust manufacturer and helped design exhaust systems for all kinds of cars. I know how different designs and materials affect the power and sound of a system.

You don't have to take this whole thing so damn personally man. I am not trying to insult you or anything. I am just saying, be aware...titan exhausts are meant for racing, and as such, sound level is not generally a design concern when they are produced! Let alone the fact that titanium is notoriously prone to cracking under the high heat conditions and exhaust system deals with.

I have seen too many people buy up all kinds of racing products in the interest of bling factor, then end up miserable with their cars because all of a sudden it is not suitable for daily driving any more!

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First, learn how to spell and use the shift key. ur not doing much 4 ur own credibility hear


And no, I cannot tell everyone the noise level of all these exhausts. Besides, many of the manufacturers you list make multiple exhaust product lines. Is an A'PEXi World Sport loud? Compared to stock yes, but compared to an N-1 it is quiet. And yes, I have heard of Amuse.

I have not had every exhaust out there, and I am not trying to say I have. That is not the experience I have had. I have worked for an exhaust manufacturer and helped design exhaust systems for all kinds of cars. I know how different designs and materials affect the power and sound of a system.

You don't have to take this whole thing so damn personally man. I am not trying to insult you or anything. I am just saying, be aware...titan exhausts are meant for racing, and as such, sound level is not generally a design concern when they are produced! Let alone the fact that titanium is notoriously prone to cracking under the high heat conditions and exhaust system deals with.

I have seen too many people buy up all kinds of racing products in the interest of bling factor, then end up miserable with their cars because all of a sudden it is not suitable for daily driving any more!

Marcus
for what it's worth Marcus, i agree with you that in general, ti. exhuasts are louder.

nuff said.

back to topic bishes.

so any news of the j's racing exhuast?
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actually, these kind of comparisons are done in best motoring videos.

and the amuse r1 titan is pretty loud.
u talking about the one on S2000 right?
ROFLMAO 88db is loud. U win then.... (I suggest u to look at the number recorded for stock too.)
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Originally Posted by Mugen_Whore
Mugen is not titanium... woot!!! I suggest u to do some research before misleading other people. thx.

Totally wrong again!! it depends on the design. It is true that you can not alter the natural frequency of a material (i.e. what u call resonating). However, there is other things u can do. u CAN NOT just conclude that titanium exhaust are louder than regular ones just b/c the one u have tried before is louder. At least I won't say titanium is more quiet in general while the mugen muffler is made with titanium.
It seems like you're very knowledgable on the design of a catback and the material that is used. Can you please point us in the right direction on the Internet where you find these design techniques to resolve the cabin noise issues? I always assumed that the cabin noise would be reduced by the type of muffler (ie. straight thru, twin loop, chambered) and the thickness of the muffler wall. Please help me understand if I'm missing something?



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