What do you guys recommend..The Comptech ice box or the Injen CAI used as a short ram only? I'm stuck as to which one might be better, anybody have any input? Thanks inadvance!
Jose

 

Power wise injen. Looks injen....price injen...take ur pick. =)

 

Comptech IceBox
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5826

Injen CAI
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22721

K&N CAI
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6125

Fujita CAI
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26568

Mugen
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5119

 

Icebox - Better low end, quiet (Close to stock sound with a little more roar)

Injen - Better mid range, Loud (Fairly quiet at low RPMS, Nice big growl when you open it up)

 

The Injen was fairly loud, especially with a heavy load on the engine (ie: Taking an uphill on-ramp to a freeway). Also took a noticeable amount of low end torque away. I swtiched to the ice box and it was perfect for what I wanted. I got more low end torque back and it isn't even close to the volume of the Injen. I have an AT though and I have read that they tend to make the the intake a little louder then the MT, I don't know this to be a fact but mine was loud. I did loose some noticeable, but very slight, high end pull and don't hear the VTEC change over as much. The Injen intake looked damn nice though, and I miss that most about it. Anyways that's my .

 

with my California AT brothers. Somewhere there is a thread that shows a dyno graph of both the intakes (sorry, I couldn't find it). I remember it showed the Icebox better down low, the Injen better at mid and high rpms and the Icebox again with more power at the very very top of the rev range.

 

really...so basically on say highway driving my Injen sounds like a good idea (loud) and say on 0-30mph street driving the icebox hits the spot.

Any1 have those graphs jlukja was talking about?

And when you guys are referring to the Injen, was that in CAI form only or do you guys have any experience with it in Short Ram?

 

Stokeless_TSX man on ebay the icebox come to $150 while the Injen come to alittle over $200...but I'd be getting the Injen for around $150 anyway from a dude around here.

 

depend on your pref. If you don't mind loud get the injen. especially for only $150... For me, icebox is perfect. I hate the loud noise..... and $150 for a brand new icebox is a good deal.... my

 

I was thinking the same thing

 

how much of a noise difference is there between the two, is it as obvious as you guys say...even the short ram...I've had experience with a CAI Injen in a past civic and at high rpms it was screeming...but is that the same case as the short?

 

Mine was in the CIA configuration. I think in SR mode you gain a little low end torque back and lose some upper end horse power, I could be totally bass ackwards though . Oh, and on the highway at cruising speed my Inkjen intake was hardly audible, it was when I gave it some gas to pass or increase my speed that it would get louder.

 

yea if you pay more than 160 for the injen u payin to much...i honestly dont think the icebox is worth it...but thats my opinion....

 

I'm not talking about loudness...But, out of the two which one has a leaner bassier tone?

 

I would do the Ingen. Just installed it this past weekend and it sounds so bad ass!

 

^^Agreed. I helped install it and it was a very nice CAI... I was impressed.

 

Love my Injen CAI. Sounds stock until you punch it.......

 

exactly, thats what i like about it.

 

Seriously, when you don't rev your car above 3500rpm, it sounds pretty much stock. Then when you race it, or when you rev it up pass 5000rpm, the noise is getting louder. But let put it this way, when you drive fast, would you prefer to be quiet or race car like loud? If you prefer quiet, then don't even think about high-flow cat and Cat-back exhaust cause they will be more louder than the Intake itself. By saying this, you don't have much choice on bolt-on upgrade for TSX then.

 

Here's the link:

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25092

The Icebox is the obvious choice, quieter & more overall gains under the curve.

By the way, pics of the dynos are down...

 

I have the injen in SRI mode and I love it. Feels the same to me as far as pull (maybe a few more ponies) but man, when I open it up to get onto a highway or just want to wind it out a bit... this thing sounds like I have a full exhaust. It has a deep mean growl and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Best part as others have said, is that until you go above 3500 rpm or really rock on the long pedal, you don't even know it is there.

 

If you are only considering SRI mode, then I would take the Icebox over the Injen any day. Icebox runs cooler than the SRI.

 

hemmm...so it sounds like more people are weighing towards the Injen...

But JTso your the first one to adress my concern of the ice box verse the SRI mode. I wish I knew someone in the area with one of the install so I could see in person.

 

I had the oportunity of driving an 05 (bone stock) as a loaner....
My goodness its a hell of a difference with my 04 w/ icebox......
the accelaration response, noise, etc once you hit that gas pedal......
it seems so hard for the stock 05 to get to 6k rpm.....
Can't imagine what it'll be like with an injen......

 

I think Injen is the most popular choice and was perceived as more powerful until Asahi posted some head to head dynos. Realistically I probably would not be able to tell the difference between 1-2 hp using my butt dyno.

Noise was a big factor for me so I chose the Icebox. Throttle response seems a lot better and it does seem to pull better to redline now. I haven't really detected any low end torque loss, which is also good since that's where I drive the car 90% of the time. Noise is pretty much stock until you get above 4000 rpms and are WOT. Also I like the fact that access to the filter for cleaning is a breeze. I do like the look of the Injen a lot better though.

 

Here is the thread I was talking about. https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25092
Unfortunately the pics with the Dyno scans don't seem to be working but you can get the gist of what was found from the discussion. See post #14.

 

My wife wants me to get the Injen mostly because of how it looks under the hood, and the noise..

 

I'm impressed! My wife keeps wondering why I'm spending money on a car that she says is fast enough. And she's opposite in that she doesn't want any extra noise. I guess it's her car too

 

my wife loves my passion for hondas...well at least to some extent...The bug hit her when I started moding her mitsubishi

 

after reading through all of these threads i think that a comptech icebox is in my future, i have had the injen since it was first released but have yet to convert to CAI mode due to my paranoia of sucking up water with the filter being down low. it is my assumption that i wouldn't have to worry about that with the icebox.

 

Definitely this. The Icebox is plastic, so its housing (which is basically a CAI with an air box in the middle) doesn't conduct heat to incoming charge air nearly as fast as the aluminum tube of the Injen does. The whole reason for getting a mandrel-bent aluminum intake is to get the orifice out of the hot engine bay, like a snorkel. The cooler air is so much cooler that it doesn't matter that the tubing conducts heat in. So, the aluminum SRI is the worst of both worlds: hot engine cowling air heated further by radiator heatsoak.

Honestly, I don't think it matters. The intake on the icebox extends down to where the old resonator goes, pretty much even with where the CAI inlet on the Injen goes. Both of these are so high off the ground that you'd literally have to drive through a freaking lake to totally submerge the inlet. Might be something to think about on some other cars, but not with any of the stuff I've seen for ours.

 

i was gonna convert the injen to CAI until your boys at ESP advised against it, that is what had me worried.

 

Do you remember what they said?

 

I always wonder why only Injen & Icebox are compared against each other.

What about K&N Typhoon? As an owner of the Injen where they decided to located the IAT sensor in a place where it almost hits the radiator hose, I'd have to say the K&N would be my preference if I were to buy one today.

 

The new Injen (part number starting with SP) has the IAT sensor at the proper location now and doesn't stretch the wiring as well.

 

Comptech Icebox PDF file:

http://comptechusa.com/store/media/dyno/tsx_icebox.pdf

fujita cai


k&n cai


injen


injen with mr technology


injen without mr technology

 

I know Injen listed this as the TSX dyno but I don't believe it is. Just look at the peak rpm and curves. Then compare it with the other real TSX dyno charts. Keep in mind Hondata TSX reflash was not available back then.