Well the time has come to replace these god-awful brakes....., I still cant get over how much these oem brakes suck!!!....., but yah..., the dealer told me two days ago that the rear were done and the front were about 3/4 done......, so I've been searching for the last 2 days or so and I have found alot of info on the different aftermarket options....., some reviews were good some not so good....., but I think that i am probably leaning towards the hawk racing rotors and pads...., but still not sure...., I am still unsure though...., need some help....

I am basically looking for the best "bang for the buck" pad and rotor combo all the way around (front and rear), as I obviously do not want to spend more money than needed....., I'm looking for something that will get me a little better stopping distance, but at the very least something that wont warp/vibrate easily or fade......, (I just cant handel that anymore, gonna drive my car of a cliff if I have to deal with that any longer)

Anyway, I was wondering if those who have went the aftermarket route have any updated comments on this topic now that you have had these products on your car for a while..... (most posts only commented on performance right after instillation)

And as always thanks to anyone with with some helpful advice......

 

Most bang for the buck is achieved by keeping the OE rotors and using an aftermarket pad like the Hawk HPS or Axxis Ultimates. Check with Mr. Heeltoe for prices on Hawk HPS pads.

And the OE rotors are just fine at what they do. The "warping" sensation you're feeling is most likely the deposits the pads have left on the rotors. Switching the brake pads usually eliminates the problem and will show a dramatic improvement in braking capability without switching rotors.

 

So how do you know when to replace the rotors?

 

Agreed. I replaced all my OE pads with Axxis on the stock rotors. All the vibrations and fading went away. I loved them!! The stopping power completely out weighs the excess dust. I need a set on my RDX now.

 

Thanks.......

the only problem is that I will probably be replacing the rotors as well just because the rear are probably shot (pitted), or will by the time I get to them and the front were resurfaced 20k ago and they are vibrating again now......., so I figure that i got a good bit out of the stock rotors (almost 50k) and it is time to move on to something better.....

Does anyone have any reccomendations on rotor/pad combos that work well together......?? and also...., where are some good places to get a decent price on them??....... Im gonna check out Mr. heeltoe........thanks again......

 

Though I do not have this combination myself, a popular combination on this forum is RacingBrake slotted rotors w/ the Hawk HPS pads. Mr. Heeltoe had a special on them a few weeks ago...don't know if it's still available.

 

are there any other combos that work well.....???
Also do you guys think it is a good idea to replace the brake lines while im tearing at everything.....??? if so what are some good "bang for your buck" brake lines....
I remember being told that you need to use a certain brake fluid in the TSX...., and as I remember it isnt what is suggested in the manual....., anyone know what type to use???

 

Also, I was just looking at the racing brake rotors and can someone tell a "noob" what the main differences/advantages between a one piece rotor compared to a two piece rotor?? thanks....

 

One piece rotors are typically less expensive. Two piece rotors where the bell and the actual rotor are separate allows for less expansion and better heat dissipation due to the two piece design. Some two piece rotors are also lighter than their one piece counterparts.

As for the brake lines, any good braided stainless steel lines would be a nice upgrade to improve the braking feel a little more. Make sure to use a DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid.

 

much thanks......,

Thats what i was thinking it ment...........Let me ask you this: do you think the two piece rotors are worth 350 more (for the 4 wheel set) or do you think that the one piece are fine and that I should just save the money??? If I remember correctly arent the oem front rotors two piece??? and the rear are one piece????

 

I think you'll be better off just replacing the F/R pads rather than going all out with new rotors and brake lines as well. I'm on my 2nd set of Axxis Ultimates and I'm still running on the OEM rotors. I experienced the brake shudder issues up until I had the oem pads replaced and the rotors turned. Since then, I've had no more warping issues and braking has been improved dramatically. So, save yourself some money and just go with the pads. On a side note, replacing those God-awful oem tires will help your car stop better also.

 

what about this company?? does anyone know about these???

http://store.r1concepts.com/Items/co...2?sck=10069583

 

thanks.....

I definetly agree on the tires......, I already did that......

As far as keeping the stock rotors...... I think that I ruined the rear ones so I might as well just do them all if I am going to have to do the rear....., which brings me to a question that i cant understand...., why did my rear brakes wear out quicker than the front....., that seems extremely weird never had that happen before...??

 

hey man, check out tirerack. they're prices are very competetive, and service is top notch!

Hawk HPS street pads (front+rear) $150
Power slot slotted Rotors (f+r) $310

 

ROTORA Slotted rotors an excellent replacement for your stock rotors. Combined with a good pad, like EBC Greenstuff, Hawk HPS or Ceramic or ROTORA ceramics, you will notice a marked improvement.

PM me for pricing with your vehicle info and zip code.

 

do you think that the power slot rotors are better than the racing brake rotors??? probably the same.....???

 

I picked up Rotora slotted rotors, along with Hawk HPS pads from Josh (Excelerate). Great price, much improved quality braking over OEM. I am very happy with the purchase. I would give either Josh (Excelerate) or Marcus (Heeltoe). Both great vendors and both offer great products and prices.

Tim

 

I'm using Hawk Ceramics. Loving them and they are also quiet, unlike the squealing OEM pads.

 

What are the advantages/disadvantages of the ceramic pads over the HPS ones..... which ones does everybody reccomend and why........., thanks........

 

Im going to send my money to Excelerate today for the Rotoras. Im getting the front and rear combos. Currently I have oem rotors with hps pads. But I just wanted to upgrade my setup.

 

The ceramics are supposed to be quiet and low dust. Compared to OEM, they are very very very quiet. Not a squeal. But dust-wise, they dust more than OEM.

 

Power Slot are NOT the same as Racing Brake rotors. Only thing better than Racing Brake rotors are Stoptech IMO

 

brake PADS now brakes.. you should have clarified the title

 

what kind of problems are you having with your oem rotor/hps pad setup? did you have these problems before you switched to hps pads?

 

what's the difference between the Powerslot rotors and Racing Brake rotors?

 

Well, I just installed the Racing Brake rotors and Hawk HP plus pads all the way around......, I just got done "bedding them in" and they will be fully broke in a few more hundred miles (in about a week or so i'll be at 500 miles on them) I havent really tested them much yet because they are still new........., but from what I can tell right now they seem to be perfect for what i need / was looking for....

I went ahead and did the rotors and pads....., and decided to wait on changing the brake lines to stainless steel and changing the brake fluid............ I wanted to see what the difference would be after completing each mod. When I change my engine oil in about 1.5K ill change these as well as change the tranny fluid..... Ill post comments then......

Does any one have updated comments on Valvoline Syntec brake fluid before I go ahead with making the switch????

Ill also post more comments after I test the brakes for real in a little bit (@500 miles).....

Does anyone else have updated comments on RB rotors or hawks pads...., or even stainless steel lines???? I havent really seen many people go with the HP plus pads with RB rotors......, anyone with comments on this combo......, much appreciated...

lattaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............

 

Does anyone know approximatly how long it will take to flush/change my brake fluid???
Thanks in advance.....

Or does anyone have any tips for installing the stainless steel brake lines.....???

I'm wondering if it makes sense to just change all of the lines then flush the brake sysytem as stated in the manual......, or can I flush the system as I change the lines????
I'm not quit sure how to tackle this as I have never changed brake lines before......, but i have flushed fluid before..... thanks again.....

 

I had a question when you start hearing nosie on your rotors; like loud metal Scraping what does that suppose to mean?

 

Usually that's the warning that you need new brakes, I believe.

 

that sound means that your are begining to ruin your rotors......, the sound is from the metal warning markers scratching against your rotors....., they are there to tell you need to change your pads as soon as possible.....

but in the case of my car........, i didnt give a shit because i knew that I was replacing the rotors anyway..... the rear pads go quicker than the front ones do....., my front pads had like a little bit less than half left......

 

What is a good paid that will dust less, than OEM? Not all that concerned about stopping power.

 

not sure cus I dont care about dust........, simply care about braking and not having to replace rotors all the time because of shitty pads leaving deposits and making my steering wheel shake all over the place and heating up and warping.....
i'm sure someone else can help you out.....

 

I'm leaning toward the ceramic HPS pads when it is time to change the OEM pads. They will create less dust because of the ceramic material used and the material will cut down on brake noise (pad squeal at a higher frequency not normally hear by humans).

http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/ceramic.php

Best prices I've seen were $94/front and $60/rear

 

Some people have posted that they actually dust pretty bad and the performance isn't as good as the other Hawk pads....., but search around though I may be wrong......., but if they do dust pretty bad then just go with the other Hawk's

 

I've really haven't found a clear answer on the dusting problem of Hawk ceramic compared to Hawk non-ceramic yet? I'm sure either choice will be a step up from the OEM pads. Let me know if you find a clear dust answer.

 

Nah, the indicator does not scrape against the rotors. They are on the rear face of the pad, so they don't touch the rotor. They do touch the caliper though.

 

Ive been thinking about the Racing Brake rotor upgrade myself. Also how much did the front rotors run you?

Is there still an issue with it missing the mounting set screw like the OEM rotor? Or am I thinking about a different brand?

 

You can reuse the orignal set screws as long as you don't mangle it when taking off (use an impact screw driver)

 

Exactly......., If you dont use an impact screw driver....., then you will defiently mangle the set screws (soft metal screws)..... As for the racing brake rotor holes for the set screws not lining up....., the front did but the back didn't...... But it dosent really matter the set screws just making installing a little easier...., and do not provide any other function.....obviously the lugs hold the rotor in place.....

 

Sorry for a late respond. I just wanted to change the stock pads to hps pads. Now that I have the hps on for a while now, I want to change my rotors out for the rotoras. Stock rotors and hps pads are better then stock. I just wanted to upgrade the rotors thats all.