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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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I have a 04 tsx. I know they car kind of slow but is there any way I can get it up to 300 hp to the wheels a safe way? W/o blowing my engine.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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supercharger or turbo


and one word of advice, you gotta be willing to pay if you wanna play (ie: HP costs $$$)


but YES you should be able to get it up to 300 at the wheels while keeping the motor alive, and quality components will pay dividends for doing it safer
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by friesm2000
supercharger or turbo


and one word of advice, you gotta be willing to pay if you wanna play (ie: HP costs $$$)


but YES you should be able to get it up to 300 at the wheels while keeping the motor alive, and quality components will pay dividends for doing it safer
I agree with this. Just want to add one thing.

It really isn't worth putting in a ton of money to get your car to about 300 WHP, if you have an automatic transmission. The automatic transmission on our cars cannot handle that type of power. So if you have an automatic, the #1 thing to do is either a 6 speed swap or trade your car for a 6 speed manual. If you have a 6 speed already, go for it!

Make sure to post pics!
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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yes i have the 4 cylinder -_- im going to call acura and see if i can get a used 6speed. and ill make sure to post pics
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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yes i have the 4 cylinder -_- im going to call acura and see if i can get a used 6speed. and ill make sure to post pics
1G TSX (2004-2008) only came with a 4-cylinder engine.

I would look for a model year that can take the Hondata reflash, i.e. 2004-2006 (and check which board sponsors/vendors broker the reflash, I didn't and paid a bit more ). Hondata also makes a intake manifold heatshield that you might want.

And remember that the stock suspension is meant for a "soft 'n comfy" ride, a huge power increase will probably mandate a few other upgrades. (I'm a neophyte, and so yield to the experience of other members.)
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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i thought there was a v6 but guess i was mistaken but my tsx is AT
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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i thought there was a v6 but guess i was mistaken but my tsx is AT
the newest ones are, but not the older TSX's



and yours being an auto , shit i swapped my 2g TL to a manual, and put down an additional 40 HP and 40 ft of torque, just by swapping from an auto
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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auto swap is 10 grand. -_-
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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so might be worth it to go looking for a factory 6-speed then...
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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im going to buy a supercharger but idk which one is reliable. i need my a/c i plan on moving back to FL and its hot as ever there in the summer/spring
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Cause: complete education to get a job.
Effect: you'll have lots of monies to get a better high powered vehicle.

Dont waste your time modding your 4cylinder autotragic tsx.
even modyifing the TL is a waste of time.

Start off with the "right" wheel drive and moar horse power as your base car and build from that.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Cause: complete education to get a job.
Effect: you'll have lots of monies to get a better high powered vehicle.

Dont waste your time modding your 4cylinder autotragic tsx.
even modyifing the TL is a waste of time.

Start off with the "right" wheel drive and moar horse power as your base car and build from that.

im young dude.. im trying to do everything with my car on my own w/o any help so for now im going to stick with what i have now. but i seen this guy with a supercharged 5AT tsx. im very interested in doing the same to my car
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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Wow, all this 5AT hating. I can't argue that the 6MT gets a bit more performance out of the car, it's a sweet shifter, but they only produced what something like 15%? 35%? of the US TSX in 6MT? The 6MT is not "the only true TSX."

Coming from a YJ Wrangler with Peugeot tranny for 20 years (with that throw, I did 35 years' worth of shifting), I was ready for a vacation in my daily driver. The smooth responsive 5AT in my TSX suits me fine, and the SS mode lets me pour on the beans as needed.

OP, if you're on a budget, contact HeelToe or XLR8 about doing a Hondata reflash (your car should only be down 5-7 days if you Fedex the parts to Hondata), you'll get more from SS mode, just watch your redline because the "careless driver governor" feature is removed. $295 or so is a lot cheaper than a tranny change or shopping for a new car. A cold air intake isn't much more (the two combined will cost you what the reflash cost me before shipping), and the 2004 definitely benefits from the new lungs.

I'm told that generally you want to do upgrades in this order: brakes, springs & shocks, sway bars, chip. But if $s are tight, the reflash is a simple upgrade that requires no other mods (aside from that CAI) to go with it. And I guarantee you will feel the difference.

Okay, sales pitch over.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by YD757
im young dude.. im trying to do everything with my car on my own w/o any help so for now im going to stick with what i have now. but i seen this guy with a supercharged 5AT tsx. im very interested in doing the same to my car
Thats the whole point. you're young. go to school. Once you have a badass job, then start modifying a better vehicle.
if you supercharge, you're gonna spend close to 5,000 to 6,000 dollars.
not including all the support work.
you do not sound very technical. what if the supercharger is not running right?
do you know how to trouble shoot the super charger????

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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by YD757
I have a 04 tsx. I know they car kind of slow but is there any way I can get it up to 300 hp to the wheels a safe way? W/o blowing my engine.
It's not slow. You can get some more nimble, lively performance out of it, but do you need it? I'd take a SCCA HPDE/PDX course, and see what you need. More than likely, some experience and understanding of what's missing in your car. Your instructor can help in that regard.

I read a neat quote in a primer recently. Roughly goes like this:

If you have to ask what to upgrade to put on your car, you clearly don't know. Get some track or autocross experience under your belt, then you'll know what your car needs. You'll save money, too. Think on it: do you want to be a fast driver, or the driver of a fast car?
Oddly enough, after the 3rd and final run of the NCR-SCCA PDX I participated in last wknd, a young man in a rather tricked-out Subaru STI pulled next to me and his instructor said, "Listen, STOP putting money into your car. It's done.. Get some experience now...."

Sorry to sound like a PSA for your local car club or SCCA, but it makes sense to build up your own knowledge and understanding before spending $1000s on the stock car because you think "it's slow." It's not slow if you know how to drive it.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:21 AM
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i say just do basic boltons for now if your worried about blowing the motor or anything...if you do get a turbo or s/c the only way to feel the power is to get on the acclerator and usually when u have those mods you will tend to drive it a little harder leading to a blown tranny or something
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:24 AM
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if you are interested on boltons i have a FLP highflow cat for sale. http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Fastline-...-pr-64768.html ...bought it 3 months ago and never installed it, but moneys gettin tight for me so im trying to sell it, $280 shipped
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Old May 1, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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can a hondata mess up your car and does it ruin the resale value?j/w
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Old May 1, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mjcchevy24
can a hondata mess up your car and does it ruin the resale value?j/w

any mod can potentially screw up any car, some have more potential then others though, and as long as it is done right/quality, there is alot less potential to screwing the car up


as far as resale, more then likely the potential buyer will not even know it is there unless you specifically tell them that it is (they might say it has more power then other TSX's, but more then likely will put that down to being better maintained or something along those lines, not being retuned)
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Old May 1, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Wow, all this 5AT hating. I can't argue that the 6MT gets a bit more performance out of the car, it's a sweet shifter, but they only produced what something like 15%? 35%? of the US TSX in 6MT? The 6MT is not "the only true TSX."

Coming from a YJ Wrangler with Peugeot tranny for 20 years (with that throw, I did 35 years' worth of shifting), I was ready for a vacation in my daily driver. The smooth responsive 5AT in my TSX suits me fine, and the SS mode lets me pour on the beans as needed.

OP, if you're on a budget, contact HeelToe or XLR8 about doing a Hondata reflash (your car should only be down 5-7 days if you Fedex the parts to Hondata), you'll get more from SS mode, just watch your redline because the "careless driver governor" feature is removed. $295 or so is a lot cheaper than a tranny change or shopping for a new car. A cold air intake isn't much more (the two combined will cost you what the reflash cost me before shipping), and the 2004 definitely benefits from the new lungs.

I'm told that generally you want to do upgrades in this order: brakes, springs & shocks, sway bars, chip. But if $s are tight, the reflash is a simple upgrade that requires no other mods (aside from that CAI) to go with it. And I guarantee you will feel the difference.

Okay, sales pitch over.
what do u mean watch the redline? since his car is automatic
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Old May 1, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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The reflash doesn't "mess up your car," unless you do a clumsy job of removing the ECU. As for resale value, I don't think it would make mine harder or easier to sell, but a buyer who wanted it for the sports sedan value would appreciate the mod. If someone simply wanted to buy it to run the kids to the day care, I'd suggest they might find a cheaper one elsewhere, as my mods and diligent maintenance make it worth maximum black book value. (I've only got about $1000 of mods in the car, without labor.)

Originally Posted by mjcchevy24
what do u mean watch the redline? since his car is automatic
Read Hondata's page on their TSX reflash. They move the hard redline to 7600, accessible in SSM. (I forget if they leave the "rev limit" governor active, I thought I read that they remove it so that, in SSM, you can exceed the limit.)

My point is, you have retrain your eye (and ear) to the new rev limit that the reflash incorporates.

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