Hondata Dyno and info for potential so cal customers
03-23-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
Most likely you will see a decrease in hp and torque about 5-7% across the board with an identical curve.
So basically, the gains should be about the same, right?
03-23-2005, 06:10 PM
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Gains should be identical at the crank. What you have to remember is the auto is going to lose about 5% more accross the board form the dynos we've seen. So say you have a 10whp gain on a manual, that will translate to more like a 7-8lb ft gain on an auto.
03-23-2005, 06:34 PM
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So if you add 200.00 for the injen intake + 595 for hondata its 795.00, if you divide 795.00 by 20 ( for the lb/ft of torque or HP improvement) its about 39.75 per HP gained or lb/ft gained. when if you add just an intake you all ready get a 10hp gain for 200.00 which equals to 20.00 per hp or lb/ft. So my question being, is Hondata a good deal???? or is it $$$$$ for only a small gain?
03-23-2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Yeah, I'll need all the luck to resist starting to mod... for as long as humanly possible. The rear swaybar is pretty much going to be my 1st mod, already got "permission" to do so, just want to take my time and enjoy the already pretty sweet handling as stock form first.
I now wonder if virtualbong can keep to his words of keeping the stock quietness till next Summer (that's what he said, right?) I think his is 5AT but then reflash for that must be out very soon anyway.
Now back to subject somewhat
I am really very impressed with the improvement Hondata reflash can make 
Would it so happen that some engineer from Honda actually lurks around these sites? Can he/she answer why Honda doesn't tune the ECU to do this in the first place???
I now wonder if virtualbong can keep to his words of keeping the stock quietness till next Summer (that's what he said, right?) I think his is 5AT but then reflash for that must be out very soon anyway.
Now back to subject somewhat
I am really very impressed with the improvement Hondata reflash can make Would it so happen that some engineer from Honda actually lurks around these sites? Can he/she answer why Honda doesn't tune the ECU to do this in the first place???
03-23-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by calitsx
So if you add 200.00 for the injen intake + 595 for hondata its 795.00, if you divide 795.00 by 20 ( for the lb/ft of torque or HP improvement) its about 39.75 per HP gained or lb/ft gained. when if you add just an intake you all ready get a 10hp gain for 200.00 which equals to 20.00 per hp or lb/ft. So my question being, is Hondata a good deal???? or is it $$$$$ for only a small gain?
03-23-2005, 07:18 PM
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now..just waiting for somebody with Injen cai + DC headers.. cause thats the setup i will eventually have.. of course until the setup for the IPS-K2 cams w/hondata flash or even k-pro come out.. 
03-23-2005, 08:54 PM
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ok i just woke up.... I pulled an all nighter last night waiting for hondata... jk lol.. but anyways, the dyno posted by hondata is the max before and after gain curve. The one I posted earlier is the peak before and after curve. I just posted the peak curve cause that's what most people want to see. Dan, can I email you the peak curve file and can you photo hax it to look better online? Ok, I just woke up so I haven't driven my car yet either.... will most review by tomorrow morning after i go for some midnight driving.
03-23-2005, 08:57 PM
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oh yeah, one more piece of info, epic motoring will look into groupbuys. So if you get 5 or more people to go down there at the same time, you can save each other some money.
03-23-2005, 09:23 PM
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somebody needs to dyno w/ a CAI, hondata gasket (and maybe header). If the gains were as good or better than Hondata's own I'd be sold. I'm a little weary that taewlee's hp numbers were pretty low compared to hondata's setup even though the before and after results were great.
03-23-2005, 09:40 PM
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somebody needs to dyno w/ a CAI
Originally Posted by xizor
I'm a little weary that taewlee's hp numbers were pretty low compared to hondata's setup even though the before and after results were great.
03-23-2005, 10:39 PM
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yeah, my car with just injen cai beat the hondata comptech icebox and the header together at some low and mid range rpms which I considered to be pretty damn impressive of injen cold air intake solo.
03-23-2005, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hondata
They have. Refer to this thread
This dyno was not that low compared to Hondata's setup. In one part of the Rev range 3300 rpm to 3900 rpm, this car beat Hondata's car - and Hondata car had headers. This car did not.
This dyno was not that low compared to Hondata's setup. In one part of the Rev range 3300 rpm to 3900 rpm, this car beat Hondata's car - and Hondata car had headers. This car did not.
03-24-2005, 12:02 AM
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One question about the dyno graphs hondata posted here...
The graph titles say Fly Wheel Torque and Fly Wheel Power, so these are Fly Wheel numbers, right? (here we go again, sorry)
The graph titles say Fly Wheel Torque and Fly Wheel Power, so these are Fly Wheel numbers, right? (here we go again, sorry)
03-24-2005, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by taewlee
yeah, my car with just injen cai beat the hondata comptech icebox and the header together at some low and mid range rpms which I considered to be pretty damn impressive of injen cold air intake solo.
03-24-2005, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Very nice! 
Holy hell SteVTEC, you're EVERYWHERE! Good to see you found your way to this board! Brings back fond memories of V6P.
I have an Injen CAI...and will be installing the DC headers on friday. I'll install the Hondata first week of april along with a set of UR Pullies.
After the hondata install, the dyno will include:
Injen CAI
DC headers
Greddy EVO 2
UR Pullies
Hondata
....can't wait for the results!
03-24-2005, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by loxllxol
Holy hell SteVTEC, you're EVERYWHERE! Good to see you found your way to this board! Brings back fond memories of V6P.
I have an Injen CAI...and will be installing the DC headers on friday. I'll install the Hondata first week of april along with a set of UR Pullies.
After the hondata install, the dyno will include:
Injen CAI
DC headers
Greddy EVO 2
UR Pullies
Hondata
....can't wait for the results!
I have an Injen CAI...and will be installing the DC headers on friday. I'll install the Hondata first week of april along with a set of UR Pullies.
After the hondata install, the dyno will include:
Injen CAI
DC headers
Greddy EVO 2
UR Pullies
Hondata
....can't wait for the results!
03-24-2005, 03:02 AM
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dynos were free for testing purposes... most of the time was spent on dynoing and talking about it and about cars too. I learned alot lol. You can finish the reflash procedure in less than an hour without dynos.
Thank you hondata! i just took my car out for a spin tonight, this has been the best modification i have ever done. What i enjoy the most is the higher redline... and the lower vtech. The higher redline makes me feel like driving our old integra again but inside a luxurious sedan.
Thank you hondata! i just took my car out for a spin tonight, this has been the best modification i have ever done. What i enjoy the most is the higher redline... and the lower vtech. The higher redline makes me feel like driving our old integra again but inside a luxurious sedan.
03-24-2005, 03:18 AM
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oh yes, the car is definetely faster, before hondata, my 2nd gear would reach to about exactly around 60mphs. After hondata, i can go up to around 70mphs. I think the extra power and rpm allowed more speed to pick up. I enjoy revving more redline more than the speed though ^^. I would buy hondata over again if you guys can raise the redline to 8000rpms.
03-24-2005, 06:58 AM
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What upgrades do you *need* to do to the car before getting this done, if any?
I see a few have a CAI but it's not required, is it? How easy is it for the dealer to notice you did this, if you come in with warranty issues?
I see a few have a CAI but it's not required, is it? How easy is it for the dealer to notice you did this, if you come in with warranty issues?
Memories of my Integra.
03-24-2005, 09:37 AM
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What upgrades do you *need* to do to the car before getting this done, if any?
I see a few have a CAI but it's not required, is it? How easy is it for the dealer to notice you did this, if you come in with warranty issues?
I see a few have a CAI but it's not required, is it? How easy is it for the dealer to notice you did this, if you come in with warranty issues?
03-24-2005, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by taewlee
oh yes, the car is definetely faster, before hondata, my 2nd gear would reach to about exactly around 60mphs. After hondata, i can go up to around 70mphs. I think the extra power and rpm allowed more speed to pick up. I enjoy revving more redline more than the speed though ^^. I would buy hondata over again if you guys can raise the redline to 8000rpms.
The only thing I would think this would help you with is you will now get to the top end faster, but you shouldnt be going any faster then you did before in any given gear.
03-24-2005, 01:32 PM
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i'm offering to display my 0-60 (which really is 20-60)
http://www.uic.edu/~jhussa2/tsx60.avi
ps. it as injen cai only. and yes thats wheel hop.
i also posted more videos in about april of 2004 search tsx vs rsx video
http://www.uic.edu/~jhussa2/tsx60.avi
ps. it as injen cai only. and yes thats wheel hop.
i also posted more videos in about april of 2004 search tsx vs rsx video
