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Old 02-24-2006 | 06:12 PM
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HiTech Header

Where did Blackthorn get a HiTech Header as he posted in the dyno thread?

I googled this and its a small shop in Austrialia, I called their number and they dont make a header for our car, and they dont ship to the US, so where did he get it from and where is the dyno that one would likly want to see before ordering an expensive part from overseas?


Old 02-24-2006 | 06:18 PM
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He probably means HyTech
Old 02-24-2006 | 06:20 PM
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Looks like DC Sports to me.

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Originally Posted by gsclifton
Looks like DC Sports to me.

I was gonna say the same exact thing!

Besides HyTech cannot be ready that fast. I ordered mine last week will take roughly 10-12 weeks
Old 02-24-2006 | 06:45 PM
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Its HyTech, www.hytechexhaust.com. John, the owner, does some great work. I think their main business is custom race headers but he get a lot of business from the acura crowd. Did alot for the B-series, and I believe he did something for the K20 that got into a Car and Driver competition. They are located in Irvine.

Anyways, they do custom H/C/E setups. Stainless steel systems, high-flow cat, twin loop muffler, etc. Their header is their best work, a 4-2-1 setup with extra length primaries, proprietary anti-reversion chambers. Bascially nothing on the market matched it for the integra (I think the Comptech race header for the integra was a copy cat design, but Im not sure). Made the torque curve much more full, and a type-R claimed 31 more hp at the wheel (with intake -I'll try and look up the link, but this was all over team-integra.net). Unfortunately, since its custom, its not CARB legal - so no go for me.

On an integra, he quoted me 2400 for H/C/E. I don't know what it would be for the TSX, since there are 2 mufflers. He would probably need to keep it for about a week to work on the car.
Old 02-24-2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
I was gonna say the same exact thing!

Besides HyTech cannot be ready that fast. I ordered mine last week will take roughly 10-12 weeks
Nice, did you get the entire setup? Write this up when you get the chance, price, performance...I really was interested in this for my Teg and want to see what they can do for the TSX.
Old 02-24-2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Nice, did you get the entire setup? Write this up when you get the chance, price, performance...I really was interested in this for my Teg and want to see what they can do for the TSX.
Yup, ordered the full exhaust system. Price is in the $2,500 range. Doug @ Hondata has this already. When IU get reflashed I am gonna see if I can go along to check out his car
Old 02-24-2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Unfortunately, since its custom, its not CARB legal - so no go for me.
If it doesn't throw a CEL, it should pass visual, right? Unlike the traditional engine setup where you might as well have a sign that says "I HAVE HEADERS" the K-series hides them behind. I wonder if you could just spray some rust colored paint on them.

The drive-thru smog place on Orangethorpe near my house spends like 5 seconds for the visual check.
Old 02-24-2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Unfortunately, since its custom, its not CARB legal - so no go for me.
Is it CARB legal. I know the site, in which you make reference too, while John had Josh's car one the things John tested was emissions and to get it CARB approved. This is no different. It will have everything connected O2 sensors and has a Cat, so there no worries. It that were the case I would not even get it
Old 02-24-2006 | 07:20 PM
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HyTech

See link above. From the second post:


....."Emissions testing with the HyTech system were more than successful. At the 15mph test hydrocarbons registered at absoulute 0.00%. At 25mph HC% was only up 0.01%. CO numbers were at the floor as well registering only half of what the average low emissions vehicle produces. CARB certification shouldn't be a problem, it's just a pain in the ass process but it will happen eventually. Living in CA, CARB certification is definitely important to me....


PAssed with flying colors, so NO worries
Old 02-24-2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
Yup, ordered the full exhaust system. Price is in the $2,500 range. Doug @ Hondata has this already. When IU get reflashed I am gonna see if I can go along to check out his car
Wow. That sounds awesome. Please do before and after dyno if possible.
So it's 2500 for Header, CAT, and Exhaust?
Is it seperated into multiple pieces?
It's all CARB legal? Even the CAT?
Old 02-24-2006 | 07:58 PM
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Than I stand corrected on this point Blackthorn.
Old 02-24-2006 | 08:07 PM
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Wow. That sounds awesome. Please do before and after dyno if possible.
So it's 2500 for Header, CAT, and Exhaust?
Is it seperated into multiple pieces?
It's all CARB legal? Even the CAT?

It is multiple pieces, however since I am in SoCal I will be going to the shop to get it installed
Old 02-24-2006 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
Yup, ordered the full exhaust system. Price is in the $2,500 range. Doug @ Hondata has this already. When IU get reflashed I am gonna see if I can go along to check out his car
Did you put a down payment? B/c I called them back in Nov/Dec and I'm on the list for a header, haven't heard back...maybe I should just call them.
Old 02-24-2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
If it doesn't throw a CEL, it should pass visual, right? Unlike the traditional engine setup where you might as well have a sign that says "I HAVE HEADERS" the K-series hides them behind. I wonder if you could just spray some rust colored paint on them.

The drive-thru smog place on Orangethorpe near my house spends like 5 seconds for the visual check.
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HyTech

See link above. From the second post:


....."Emissions testing with the HyTech system were more than successful. At the 15mph test hydrocarbons registered at absoulute 0.00%. At 25mph HC% was only up 0.01%. CO numbers were at the floor as well registering only half of what the average low emissions vehicle produces. CARB certification shouldn't be a problem, it's just a pain in the ass process but it will happen eventually. Living in CA, CARB certification is definitely important to me....


PAssed with flying colors, so NO worries
Okay, I'm becoming more amenable to this idea. John G. told me that this cat is 100% emissions legal, but I was worried about visual on the header, cat etc. Black_6spd, you have a good point about visual.

2500 for the whole deal? Single or dual twin loops? Do you have to leave the car with him (he wanted to keep my teg since I was one of the only 4 doors to inquire)? Anyways, I'd really like to hear your impressions, possibly some pics, TSX2345. I was sold on this for the Teg (as you can tell) now I might have to save up again for the TSX.

Hopefully the gains will be as tangible with the TSX as they were with the K20 and the B18. This, a good intake, lightweight rims, and Hondata would have some nice gains.

Good work keep us informed...
Old 02-26-2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Okay, I'm becoming more amenable to this idea. John G. told me that this cat is 100% emissions legal, but I was worried about visual on the header, cat etc. Black_6spd, you have a good point about visual.

2500 for the whole deal? Single or dual twin loops? Do you have to leave the car with him (he wanted to keep my teg since I was one of the only 4 doors to inquire)? Anyways, I'd really like to hear your impressions, possibly some pics, TSX2345. I was sold on this for the Teg (as you can tell) now I might have to save up again for the TSX.

Hopefully the gains will be as tangible with the TSX as they were with the K20 and the B18. This, a good intake, lightweight rims, and Hondata would have some nice gains.

Good work keep us informed...

As I am told from John this will be a dual muffler design. Won't need to leave my car there, he already had another TSX months ago to prototype it from and do some testing. So once its complete John will give me a call and make arrangements to go get it installed.

I too was sold on it when I had my Integra, had a GSR Sedan.

Getting reflashed next week then waiting for the exhaust to be built
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Hey, I had a 4 door too, non-Vtec though. He wanted to keep my car for a couple of weeks for fitment, since I think I was the first non-vtec 4 door that had requested the exhaust at the time (a couple of years back).

Did Hytech make any claims for power - dynos, torque and HP gains other TSX?
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Hytech is besically the creme de la creme of headers. He makes every one by hand. Hytech is about 10 minutes from my house. I stop by there sometimes. John is the K-series master.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Hytech is besically the creme de la creme of headers. He makes every one by hand. Hytech is about 10 minutes from my house. I stop by there sometimes. John is the K-series master.
Any idea what one of his headers alone would cost? This sounds like a nice alternative to the DC/Comptech setup, considering the problems they've had.
Old 02-27-2006 | 12:37 PM
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Any idea what one of his headers alone would cost? This sounds like a nice alternative to the DC/Comptech setup, considering the problems they've had.

They are around $1500 I think. He uses race technology, specific pipe diameter, thin walled material, pulse welding (no filler), etc. It is the mercedes of headers. Plus he gets your specs and makes the header speific to your mods.
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damn sounds nice...
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Wow...sounds really nice.

What if someone had a Supercharged TSX with Hytech header, cat, and exhaust
Old 02-28-2006 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
They are around $1500 I think. He uses race technology, specific pipe diameter, thin walled material, pulse welding (no filler), etc. It is the mercedes of headers. Plus he gets your specs and makes the header speific to your mods.
I dunno. For $1500, I'd rather have this baby that's been dyno'ed:

Forget about CARB legal on this baby.
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Thats a Today header, correct? If so, I hate to be the bearer of bad news the HyTech made more power then that thing did. This came straight from John himself
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I want to have it dynoed against the Maxim Works Header.
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Well, not sure if you clicked on the link I provided [Post #10] you saw how much it made by simply bolting it. The HyTech is not your ordinary header. Often refered as the Tri-Y or hybrid header.
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yes but will it look as nice as the Maxim header.
Old 02-28-2006 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
Thats a Today header, correct? If so, I hate to be the bearer of bad news the HyTech made more power then that thing did. This came straight from John himself
Today? Or tomorrow header?

That's not bad news at all -- actually good news. I clicked on the link that took me to teamintegra, but didn't see any dyno?? I'm getting curious about this thing now since Hondata's testing showed that the K24's breathing would unlock lots of potential or the NA folks.

FI folks don't need any more power.
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If anyone wants a header I can swing by and talk to him. I need to say whuddup again anyway.
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I meant Toda!

I know it took you to Team-Integra. The point being is that a bolt-on exhaust put down those numbers. The link was evidence so to speak, and more background information.


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Today? Or tomorrow header?

That's not bad news at all -- actually good news. I clicked on the link that took me to teamintegra, but didn't see any dyno?? I'm getting curious about this thing now since Hondata's testing showed that the K24's breathing would unlock lots of potential or the NA folks.

FI folks don't need any more power.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
If anyone wants a header I can swing by and talk to him. I need to say whuddup again anyway.
I'm quite interested in just the header.
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For those that have never seen a HyTech, here are some photos

DROOL!








B Series HyTech Header



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now i gotta go change my pants.
Ya. Those are some pretty damn nice-looking welds. Those sound really tempting, but $1500 is a lot of dough for a header.

Really nice, though. Probably no problems with broken welds, etc.
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Ya. Those are some pretty damn nice-looking welds. Those sound really tempting, but $1500 is a lot of dough for a header.

Really nice, though. Probably no problems with broken welds, etc.
The only possible problem you'll have after installing a Hytech header is speeding tickets
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So is the one for the TSX gonna be a side exit as well?
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Hytech has fitted a complete exhaust system to my car with highflow cat.

Here is a rough comparison from memory.

The Toda Header with test pipe (no cat) and stock cat back made similar power and torque under 6400 rpm to the complete Hytech system with cat.

The Hytech system made about 8 hp more peak - 7500 rpm. Impressive that it was done through a cat.

However the Toda header was only a prototype test unit from Japan and is not available for sale to my knowledge.
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Originally Posted by hondata
Hytech has fitted a complete exhaust system to my car with highflow cat.

Here is a rough comparison from memory.

The Toda Header with test pipe (no cat) and stock cat back made similar power and torque under 6400 rpm to the complete Hytech system with cat.

The Hytech system made about 8 hp more peak - 7500 rpm. Impressive that it was done through a cat.

However the Toda header was only a prototype test unit from Japan and is not available for sale to my knowledge.
Thanks for the info. You wouldn't by any chance still have that "extra" header / cat back laying around anymore?
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I'd definitely be interested to hear back for MrHeeltoe or Hondata on the availability of this header.


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