Dc Sports Exhaust!!
#1
Dc Sports Exhaust!!
Stop the presses on the Comptech exhausts looks like us TSX owners are starting to get some more aftermarket options.
Seems as DCSPORTS is close to production on thier twin canister system.
www.dcsports.com
Would love to see some dyno results!!!
Well just wanted to let you guys know. Im going for a combination of sound and power in my decision for exhaust so to know that we now have about 2-3 different options makes things better.
Now where the hell are the DYNOS!!!
AKay
Seems as DCSPORTS is close to production on thier twin canister system.
www.dcsports.com
Would love to see some dyno results!!!
Well just wanted to let you guys know. Im going for a combination of sound and power in my decision for exhaust so to know that we now have about 2-3 different options makes things better.
Now where the hell are the DYNOS!!!
AKay
#2
RSR is also working on a exhaust system for the TSX. Stainless steel system ceramic coated in black with polished tips and probably the quietest out there, and no bling bling polished mufflers. I think they are a bit played out especially for us older guys.
#3
yeah im not looking for ricer sounds something nice sounding with power gains is key.
Id sacrifice the 4-5 whp a ricer sounding exhaust would give to get a nice growl from another aftermarket exhaust as i concur im not tryin to sound like the young kids 1991 integras lol
Geez i sound old for 25!!
AKay
Id sacrifice the 4-5 whp a ricer sounding exhaust would give to get a nice growl from another aftermarket exhaust as i concur im not tryin to sound like the young kids 1991 integras lol
Geez i sound old for 25!!
AKay
#5
Those are very nice numbers and would bring people damm near to the 240hp at the crank some people are salivating for im hoping those numbers look more impressive for the k24a2 as opposed to that dyno for the k24a.
AKay
AKay
#6
remember that's for i/h/e! Not just one mod. FYI there is a guy on tsxclub that dyno'd his car with a custom cai and custom exhaust that hit something like 186 hp... i'll be very interested to see what someone with comptech goodies can hit..I would think they would be better.
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#8
Any particular reason for thinking that?
A 4-2-1 desing gives some possibilities for better gas scavenging and the neck down right before the flex coupling is eliminated with the comptech headers. I'm not saying you are wrong as those might amount to nada, just wondering if you had any reasoning you thought the other mods would be better.
A 4-2-1 desing gives some possibilities for better gas scavenging and the neck down right before the flex coupling is eliminated with the comptech headers. I'm not saying you are wrong as those might amount to nada, just wondering if you had any reasoning you thought the other mods would be better.
#9
I agree with TinkySD. Think of the engine as a big air pump. Intake, headers, and exhaust all play critical roles in the amount of horsepower you can produce. A high flow exhaust won't do you much good if the intake is restricting the air coming into the engine.
#10
i have my custom catback on now. I changed it from dual to single i am only doin this temporarily until alot of catbacks come out and they prove to show good dynos. Furthermore, its not ricer loud, which is great, its nice and deep and it gets really loud only at full throttle. I used 2.5in piping and it was crush bent with a tsuedo muffler. I will try to post pics if u would like? Oh and i can defintiely feel the difference with my ass dyno 2nd gear seems much stronger
#12
Originally posted by TinkySD
dual to single conversion? I like the looks of the dual too much. Would never do it. A dual setup should also be quieter than single setup.
dual to single conversion? I like the looks of the dual too much. Would never do it. A dual setup should also be quieter than single setup.
I don't know why anyone would do this but to each their own.
#13
Originally posted by Dan Martin
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. It's funny how many civics and golf's I've seen converted from single to dual exhaust.
I don't know why anyone would do this but to each their own.
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. It's funny how many civics and golf's I've seen converted from single to dual exhaust.
I don't know why anyone would do this but to each their own.
#14
Originally posted by LurchTSX
#15
Originally posted by TinkySD
Any particular reason for thinking that?
A 4-2-1 desing gives some possibilities for better gas scavenging and the neck down right before the flex coupling is eliminated with the comptech headers. I'm not saying you are wrong as those might amount to nada, just wondering if you had any reasoning you thought the other mods would be better.
Any particular reason for thinking that?
A 4-2-1 desing gives some possibilities for better gas scavenging and the neck down right before the flex coupling is eliminated with the comptech headers. I'm not saying you are wrong as those might amount to nada, just wondering if you had any reasoning you thought the other mods would be better.
#16
Originally posted by sauceman
Guys this Dyno is not for the TSX. It is the Accord dyno with the 160hp engine. There will never be such gains on the TSX, because it is already a hyped up Accord engine. The exhaust on the TSX is already bigger than on the Accord. The Accord has a much smaller diameter exhaust tubing than the TSX. Don't count on this dyno as a baseline for what you're hoping to gain with mods on the TSX.
Guys this Dyno is not for the TSX. It is the Accord dyno with the 160hp engine. There will never be such gains on the TSX, because it is already a hyped up Accord engine. The exhaust on the TSX is already bigger than on the Accord. The Accord has a much smaller diameter exhaust tubing than the TSX. Don't count on this dyno as a baseline for what you're hoping to gain with mods on the TSX.
That's true, but remeber the accord doesn't have an exhaust side vtec. So the gains will be different, you can't rule out that there wont' be large top end gains though.
#17
Originally posted by TinkySD
That's true, but remeber the accord doesn't have an exhaust side vtec. So the gains will be different, you can't rule out that there wont' be large top end gains though.
That's true, but remeber the accord doesn't have an exhaust side vtec. So the gains will be different, you can't rule out that there wont' be large top end gains though.
#18
Originally posted by sauceman
It just won't happen with a 4-2-1. To get all out top end gains in a significant amount, you will have to have a 4-1 with long runners. IMO, that is a losing formula, because you will be sacrificing power below 6000rpms.
It just won't happen with a 4-2-1. To get all out top end gains in a significant amount, you will have to have a 4-1 with long runners. IMO, that is a losing formula, because you will be sacrificing power below 6000rpms.
#19
Originally posted by TinkySD
Agree with the comments about the headers but I was just talking about the exhaust. Dont' get me wrong i'm doubting gains will be very large either but you can't rule in or out gains based on the accord dyno. 6k-7.4k they are a different animal with the exhaust side vtec. Yes the tsx stock exhaust is far better than the accord but that doesn't mean it's optimal either.
Agree with the comments about the headers but I was just talking about the exhaust. Dont' get me wrong i'm doubting gains will be very large either but you can't rule in or out gains based on the accord dyno. 6k-7.4k they are a different animal with the exhaust side vtec. Yes the tsx stock exhaust is far better than the accord but that doesn't mean it's optimal either.
#23
see i understand all the opinions here but i tend to disagree but not completely...only partially..see i plan on running boost so the point of me getting a header just isnt there unless i go supercharger..bow what im seeing is this with the jacksonracing superchager the jacksonracing header added 29 hp to the wheels....thats a huge gain...but it was designed for boost... i will need to push about 18 psi to get where i want to be when it comes to power dont question me just trust me...now i heard that on one of these sites they took a crv block k24a and an RSX type S head built it and it made ungoddly amounts of power..something like 300 at the wheels i havcent found the article but i heard about it... if i can get over 300 hp all motor i might condsider it but i want 400 whp now if i do go supercharged i have alot of work cut out for me....alot of things need to get done pistons rods sleeves all that for the 18 psi i will be pushin...plus a custom pully cuz i have never heard of one that pushes that high of psi...has anyone looked into this? or will i have to run a lower psi with nos? my goal is 12 sec daily driven show quality tsx...i will have it i had it in an integra and i will have it with this car
#24
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Hey more power to you and if you really plan on doing this.
But wont you be spending in excess of about 20k to do these mods? 400whp is going for a crazy amount of modding.
On K series fastest i have seen so far with a jackson racing supercharger is about 290whp on a civic SI that had an rsx-s motor swapped in. So if you can get your TSX up to 400whp please post pics on here before you get the feature article in Import Tuner.
AKay
Hey more power to you and if you really plan on doing this.
But wont you be spending in excess of about 20k to do these mods? 400whp is going for a crazy amount of modding.
On K series fastest i have seen so far with a jackson racing supercharger is about 290whp on a civic SI that had an rsx-s motor swapped in. So if you can get your TSX up to 400whp please post pics on here before you get the feature article in Import Tuner.
AKay
#25
Originally posted by Stokeless_TSX
see i understand all the opinions here but i tend to disagree but not completely...only partially..see i plan on running boost so the point of me getting a header just isnt there unless i go supercharger..bow what im seeing is this with the jacksonracing superchager the jacksonracing header added 29 hp to the wheels....thats a huge gain...but it was designed for boost... i will need to push about 18 psi to get where i want to be when it comes to power dont question me just trust me...now i heard that on one of these sites they took a crv block k24a and an RSX type S head built it and it made ungoddly amounts of power..something like 300 at the wheels i havcent found the article but i heard about it... if i can get over 300 hp all motor i might condsider it but i want 400 whp now if i do go supercharged i have alot of work cut out for me....alot of things need to get done pistons rods sleeves all that for the 18 psi i will be pushin...plus a custom pully cuz i have never heard of one that pushes that high of psi...has anyone looked into this? or will i have to run a lower psi with nos? my goal is 12 sec daily driven show quality tsx...i will have it i had it in an integra and i will have it with this car
see i understand all the opinions here but i tend to disagree but not completely...only partially..see i plan on running boost so the point of me getting a header just isnt there unless i go supercharger..bow what im seeing is this with the jacksonracing superchager the jacksonracing header added 29 hp to the wheels....thats a huge gain...but it was designed for boost... i will need to push about 18 psi to get where i want to be when it comes to power dont question me just trust me...now i heard that on one of these sites they took a crv block k24a and an RSX type S head built it and it made ungoddly amounts of power..something like 300 at the wheels i havcent found the article but i heard about it... if i can get over 300 hp all motor i might condsider it but i want 400 whp now if i do go supercharged i have alot of work cut out for me....alot of things need to get done pistons rods sleeves all that for the 18 psi i will be pushin...plus a custom pully cuz i have never heard of one that pushes that high of psi...has anyone looked into this? or will i have to run a lower psi with nos? my goal is 12 sec daily driven show quality tsx...i will have it i had it in an integra and i will have it with this car
#26
Exhausts on FI cars have nothing to do with NA cars. Now you have talked about your project, if you want to remain credible, get it on with, or else I would have to post this::noob:
Haha just picking on ya. Seriously, if you can go all the way, I'm very curious to see what it will give.
One last question: You're slapping in a jackson racing, + you will have to build the block and head, it is definitely a 20K+ job, added to the 25K something you invested to buy your car. If you wanted to do so much power, why not have bought an S4 with AWD and needed a lot less money and risk a lot less unreliability to get it to yield 400whp?
Haha just picking on ya. Seriously, if you can go all the way, I'm very curious to see what it will give.
One last question: You're slapping in a jackson racing, + you will have to build the block and head, it is definitely a 20K+ job, added to the 25K something you invested to buy your car. If you wanted to do so much power, why not have bought an S4 with AWD and needed a lot less money and risk a lot less unreliability to get it to yield 400whp?
#28
see all you people that doubt will see it eventually..the only problem is no one is makin pistons rods nothing for the TSX i also have tro wait for stand alone or a reflash from hondata that wont happen for a while and 25k you have got to be kidding with 10g's you can build a 500 plus hp b18c1 and thats with all off the shelf parts. nothing custom. so im pretty sure about 90% positive i can get 400 whp from 10g's...or less. turbo kit will cost me about 3-4g's and the rest ios internal parts i will do most of the work myself with the help of a few friends so it can be done...
#29
The K series engines dont have a return fuel line.
Like a b18c1 thats why it becomes more difficult to run high boost.
It could be done but research and development right now is too high.
The K series engines will be alot more tunable than the b series engines but not just yet. You WILL need to get piggy back computers and right now there isnt enough of a demand with the TSX to have aftermarket companies invest dollars into R&D. It will happen sooner than later but no where near as soon as you make it out to be and as cost efficient as you make it out to be.
Point blank the k series supercharger is about 4 or 5gs for the race one and may or may not be compatible with the k24a2.
For a reference article here ya go.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ily/index.html
You will be looking at 10gs-> to get to 400WHP and once again i will say for now.
In the future though i will not be surprised to get this for less then 10k.
AKay
PS they also mention the Skunk2 project of mating the crv engine with the k20a2.
Like a b18c1 thats why it becomes more difficult to run high boost.
It could be done but research and development right now is too high.
The K series engines will be alot more tunable than the b series engines but not just yet. You WILL need to get piggy back computers and right now there isnt enough of a demand with the TSX to have aftermarket companies invest dollars into R&D. It will happen sooner than later but no where near as soon as you make it out to be and as cost efficient as you make it out to be.
Point blank the k series supercharger is about 4 or 5gs for the race one and may or may not be compatible with the k24a2.
For a reference article here ya go.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ily/index.html
You will be looking at 10gs-> to get to 400WHP and once again i will say for now.
In the future though i will not be surprised to get this for less then 10k.
AKay
PS they also mention the Skunk2 project of mating the crv engine with the k20a2.
#30
Don't forget the mechanical limitation of the JRSC. Sure, you can change the pulley to increase boost (up to a certain point), but once the SC is spinning at it's designed rotation limit, the amount of heat it generates is incredible. Not to mention the teflon coating coming off the blades under excessive heat, and rotors coming in the contact with the tight tolerance housing. Additionally, the excessive heat it generates goes straight to the intake manifold and down to the combustion chamber without any intercooler to cool the temp down. I used to run a JRSC setup and the intake temp can climb from a normal 130F to 195F + in matter of seconds!
IMO, turbo is a better FI option for your HP goal, especially if you want to run that kind of boost.
IMO, turbo is a better FI option for your HP goal, especially if you want to run that kind of boost.
#31
turbo will be my mest bet but i cant start anything tell i can get either a piggy back system or a reflash..or a standalone..im kinda stuck in limbo but like i said the goal is 400 doesnt mean im gonna get it tomorrow hopefully by summer time ill have it or during the summer...lets just hope more parts come out and more R&D happens
#33
Originally posted by Stokeless_TSX
turbo will be my mest bet but i cant start anything tell i can get either a piggy back system or a reflash..or a standalone..im kinda stuck in limbo but like i said the goal is 400 doesnt mean im gonna get it tomorrow hopefully by summer time ill have it or during the summer...lets just hope more parts come out and more R&D happens
turbo will be my mest bet but i cant start anything tell i can get either a piggy back system or a reflash..or a standalone..im kinda stuck in limbo but like i said the goal is 400 doesnt mean im gonna get it tomorrow hopefully by summer time ill have it or during the summer...lets just hope more parts come out and more R&D happens
check out the red sema accord, is has the tsx motor swapped in plus a greddy turbo kit
#34
oh most def the R&D will happen and the K will be the future.
Just shoot all the people that will make K series to B series swap kits, as this will make the theft rate on our cars shoot sky high.
The B series has had production stop and soon the price of the B series will be more than a K series because of the law of supply and demand.
So many inexpensive mods not enough engines. I admire your goal of 400 whp. Im looking at trying to get to 200whp right now with simple bolt ons after that i want to get to 300whp with a supercharger or turbo w/nos. But i realize it wont be till prolly summer of 05 before i reach that as its expensive and isnt really out and tested yet.
AKay
Just shoot all the people that will make K series to B series swap kits, as this will make the theft rate on our cars shoot sky high.
The B series has had production stop and soon the price of the B series will be more than a K series because of the law of supply and demand.
So many inexpensive mods not enough engines. I admire your goal of 400 whp. Im looking at trying to get to 200whp right now with simple bolt ons after that i want to get to 300whp with a supercharger or turbo w/nos. But i realize it wont be till prolly summer of 05 before i reach that as its expensive and isnt really out and tested yet.
AKay
#36
The red SEMA accord is very interesting. i dont know who to talk about gettin more info with the TSX engine and turbos, but id like to get some info. if they can use our engine to supe up a car, we better be damn well able to do it ourselves.
#37
ill call greddy and see wassup...was the accord from greddy or did someone customize a kti from another car to fit the TSX??? where can i find pix of this red accord..and is there a write up on it?
#38
Originally posted by Stokeless_TSX
ill call greddy and see wassup...was the accord from greddy or did someone customize a kti from another car to fit the TSX??? where can i find pix of this red accord..and is there a write up on it?
ill call greddy and see wassup...was the accord from greddy or did someone customize a kti from another car to fit the TSX??? where can i find pix of this red accord..and is there a write up on it?
#39
talked to greddy and they said it was done up just for honda they didnt even tune the car yet. they said they arent in the works building a kit for the TSX but if they get enough requests for it they will build them so start calling greddy and emailing them lets get something out there for us
#40
that isnt the car requested, that orange TSX doesnt even work really, they said they lowered it so much that it only goes on level ground and the intercooler and stuff were barely even working.
the red sema accord was the 2 door with a TSX engine in it, theres lots of pages up if you search for tsx and Greddy together on google.
the red sema accord was the 2 door with a TSX engine in it, theres lots of pages up if you search for tsx and Greddy together on google.