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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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When is the harness coming in?
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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When is the harness coming in?
They told me 6 weeks "or so" .. im gonna get back to him in about 3 weeks. Trying to stay on top of them to let them know im a seriously inquiring about that harness. I'll be purchasing the K-pro this wednesday coming . I wont be getting anything else until i have my hands on the harness.. so i'll keep you guys posted.
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Can you PM me your contact at Hytech? Your box is full...
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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I don't get why we can't just run a piggyback computer thats less complicated than this, I was reading about the procede chip for the bmw 335i and its a simple plug in and play since it receives the signals from the factory ecu, recalibrates it, then sends it to the engine, and the entire car still has complete driveability. Cept those procede guys pulled another 100hp and 100ft/lb of torque out of the stock engine/turbos. I'm surprised greddy or HKS hasn't discovered something for us.
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LaZyPiGgY
I don't get why we can't just run a piggyback computer thats less complicated than this, I was reading about the procede chip for the bmw 335i and its a simple plug in and play since it receives the signals from the factory ecu, recalibrates it, then sends it to the engine, and the entire car still has complete driveability. Cept those procede guys pulled another 100hp and 100ft/lb of torque out of the stock engine/turbos. I'm surprised greddy or HKS hasn't discovered something for us.
Honda has always been more complicated and more secretive about their ECU programming. For as popular as Honda's have been, were lucky to have Doug and Hondata.

The only problem I have with Hondata is that because they have a monopoly, they tend to be less forthcoming with information. If they were competing with another company or group, I'm sure that would be spur them to be a little more consumer oriented.
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Honda has always been more complicated and more secretive about their ECU programming. For as popular as Honda's have been, were lucky to have Doug and Hondata.

The only problem I have with Hondata is that because they have a monopoly, they tend to be less forthcoming with information. If they were competing with another company or group, I'm sure that would be spur them to be a little more consumer oriented.
I know what your talking about, theres so many aftermarket company's specializing in BMW modifcations, they all compete with each other to make better products, and all their products are great, ie Dinan, Procede, etc.

Honestly though, the secrecy behind Honda's ECU is not neccessary. If consumers knew of tuning potential on the Honda/Acura cars, I'm sure the market would broaden. What have they got to lose if tuners crack the ECU and turbo a TSX? (Just an example) Other people will just be thinking "wow thats a nice car, maybe I might consider doing that" I really can't see a downside for Honda to allowing people to modify their cars.
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Sharing info on this forum is really important... I've considered doing some reconditioning to the MAP sensor input and AIT input. I may just relocated the AIT sensor and see how that goes... I'm OOW anyway!
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by feuss2
Sharing info on this forum is really important... I've considered doing some reconditioning to the MAP sensor input and AIT input. I may just relocated the AIT sensor and see how that goes... I'm OOW anyway!
The IAT sensor definitely gets heatsoaked. Relocating it out of the wash from the radiator, and possibly replacing the thermistor with one with a quicker response time, might be worth trying.
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I will try extending the wires and locating it down by the fog light cover area... If its farther away from the heat, the faster response time won't be as much of an issue. I think most sensors would have simiar charactaristics. Taking the plastic off the oem part could make it respond faster, but that also protects it from damage...
Old Feb 10, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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If your interested in relocating the AIT, see this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=757711

We'll keep this one related to DBW w/ K-Pro...
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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anymore rumors going around when this thing is going to come out?
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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anymore rumors going around when this thing is going to come out?
Are you referring to the K-Pro?
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PrecyseStylez
Are you referring to the K-Pro?
yeah sorry.
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600hp?! What does he have a bigger turbo than his motor?
not really..and i am cstyleaccord..by the way those kpro harness are built by me

k24/a2, gt35r, kpro, 91 pump gas at 15psi..with all accessories and 18" wheel

Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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also i might be making harness for tsx/kpro..a friend has a tsx.just need to find a time for him to bring the car by so i can test it to make sure everything work properly
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[QUOTE=r32creepr]not really..and i am cstyleaccord..by the way those kpro harness are built by me

k24/a2, gt35r, kpro, 91 pump gas at 15psi..with all accessories and 18" wheel


Whats with that dip in torque??
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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so if you made that harness to be compatible with the TSX and k-pro, what would one expect as far as fuctionality? would a TSX owner have full k-pro functionality along with use of all gauges and the normal car amenities (A/C, VSA, cruise control, etc...)?

also, how long does it take for you to usually complete the harness?
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Wow, very impressive work

I'd love to see this for the TSX
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by r32creepr
also i might be making harness for tsx/kpro..a friend has a tsx.just need to find a time for him to bring the car by so i can test it to make sure everything work properly
Awesome, I was the one who mentioned your Accord. Read it while I was lurking over at the Accord forum. Great work.

Keep these guys informed if you could.

One question: Is your accord a manual or auto?
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Awesome, I was the one who mentioned your Accord. Read it while I was lurking over at the Accord forum. Great work.

Keep these guys informed if you could.

One question: Is your accord a manual or auto?
K-Pro only works for Manual as I know, but if the harness does work w/ Auto, that will be great... I hope I'm not too positive.
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chuson
K-Pro only works for Manual as I know, but if the harness does work w/ Auto, that will be great... I hope I'm not too positive.
IIRC, I believe I read that the Accord forum had them running something with autos. I can't be certain.

I think this guys was auto as well, but I am in no way certain.

Like you said, it would be great.
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Originally Posted by r32creepr
also i might be making harness for tsx/kpro..a friend has a tsx.just need to find a time for him to bring the car by so i can test it to make sure everything work properly
Where are you from?
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:21 AM
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PrecyseStylez: the tq dip is due to tq jump..dyno couldn't read it fast enough or something..that what my tuner said..so the dyno saw it as a drop instead. but that dyno graph should have shown higher tq number. and the car actually made to around 590whp when it was running smooth. i don't have that graph..tuner has it..and forgot to email it to me..

xjohnkdoex: yes you will be able to obtain all the function of the tsx. gauges, climate control etc. however vsa is a tricky function i have to look more into it. but i believe it shouldn't be a problem. we have talked to hondata before and Dough said if it will work, vsa might not work..so i'll have to dig more informatino. the harness itself takes me about a few days to make one. i do it on my spare time.

CarbonGray Earl: my car is manual..auto tranny would have been blown by now.

chuson: sure if you read it on hondata website. it has been proven that it can work in an auto. there was one rsx guy with an auto and he got it to work..he made a harness similar to mine. i am actually building harness for accord people with auto tranny right now. should see how it turns out in a few days.

Tsx536: i'm from oregon
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ah cripes, i have an auto.

obviously, the auto tranny can't withstand that much HP. but it could be done if you lowered the boost and made sure the engine could withstand it? or can it not be done at all?
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are u working on the 07/08 too or 04/05 for now? I would love to have a homemade turbo
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07/08

are u making this for the 07/08 or only the 04/05 i would love to have a home made turbo
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Wow, it's great to see an alternative to the CT S/C show up that actually works
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
ah cripes, i have an auto.

obviously, the auto tranny can't withstand that much HP. but it could be done if you lowered the boost and made sure the engine could withstand it? or can it not be done at all?
I'm not too concern about the Auto tranny, because I've got a reliable sources for "beef-up" torque convertor for us 5AT. The only thing that matters now is the Engine management.

This will be a GREAT break-thru if the harness work, and why wouldn't Hondata invest their time/money to produce it.
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Originally Posted by r32creepr
PrecyseStylez: the tq dip is due to tq jump..dyno couldn't read it fast enough or something..that what my tuner said..so the dyno saw it as a drop instead. but that dyno graph should have shown higher tq number. and the car actually made to around 590whp when it was running smooth. i don't have that graph..tuner has it..and forgot to email it to me..

xjohnkdoex: yes you will be able to obtain all the function of the tsx. gauges, climate control etc. however vsa is a tricky function i have to look more into it. but i believe it shouldn't be a problem. we have talked to hondata before and Dough said if it will work, vsa might not work..so i'll have to dig more informatino. the harness itself takes me about a few days to make one. i do it on my spare time.

CarbonGray Earl: my car is manual..auto tranny would have been blown by now.

chuson: sure if you read it on hondata website. it has been proven that it can work in an auto. there was one rsx guy with an auto and he got it to work..he made a harness similar to mine. i am actually building harness for accord people with auto tranny right now. should see how it turns out in a few days.

Tsx536: i'm from oregon

bump: are there any updates regarding this harness?
Old May 16, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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I'm not too concern about the Auto tranny, because I've got a reliable sources for "beef-up" torque convertor for us 5AT. The only thing that matters now is the Engine management.

This will be a GREAT break-thru if the harness work, and why wouldn't Hondata invest their time/money to produce it.
i beleive mugen offers a tranny cooler too if i'm not mistaken
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more details about this 'beefed up torque converter.'
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screw the torque converter. more details on the harness, since this is what really matters.
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I doubt anything is going to happen.
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Yea... its a back and forth battle with hytech in getting this damn harness! They arent the ones who made the harness so "John" has to wait on the harness tech for answers... So if he waits then i have to wait.. I was talking with the one guy that posted the Dyno sheet of his Accord Turbo.. I was gonna try to meet up with him in Maryland and i gave him my number and everything but he never called me. He was gonna take a look at the TSX ecu and see if he could make the harness like how he did for his Accord.. So i guess i'll wait!..haha
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One thing this forum has taught me is to never buy anything from Hytech, no matter how awesome their stuff is. It may be awesome, but you'll never have it.
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One thing this forum has taught me is to never buy anything from Hytech, no matter how awesome their stuff is. It may be awesome, but you'll never have it.
Unless you have your own race team lol...

Race car is their main priority, I guess that's where the $$$ come from too.
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One thing this forum has taught me is to never buy anything from Hytech, no matter how awesome their stuff is. It may be awesome, but you'll never have it.

Thats not completely true! You WILL get it, eventually! Good things come to those who wait!

Keep it mind, these are hand made, NOT mass made.

Yes race teams are his priority.
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kind of related, so this guy over on k-series.com has a 7th gen AT V6 accord and was trying to get k-pro to run on it with some bolt-on mods. he got it to work.

the interesting tidbit-hondata may have a prototype harness that may or may not be released that works with DBW.

a lot of may's, but check the post out yourself, and i'll leave the conjecture to you guys.

LINK

"Thought I just chime in and say kpro works 100% now. I met doug from hondata and he was telling me how he has a prototype harness that may or may not be released that may work with DBW. Lots of "mays" i guess. I gained 30+ whp from stock on a dynapack so that translates to something like 20 or so i guess on a jet. This is not with the cams and such. Only a basic tune and boltons!
Here's the Dyno and video"



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