Comptech Supercharger where are you?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:23 PM
  #1  
Delmiroc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Comptech Supercharger where are you?

I e-mail comptech couple of days ago and I got no responce. what's the last word on this supercharger? does anyone know ?
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:31 PM
  #2  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
They're probably waiting for HONDATA to finish up.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:34 PM
  #3  
CGTSX2004's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 24,299
Likes: 380
From: Beach Cities, CA
Wouldn't want to run S/C without engine management.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:00 PM
  #4  
Delmiroc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
why is HONDATA taken so freakin long to come up with a reflash or new ECU
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:20 PM
  #5  
cmf's Avatar
cmf
ATCer
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,146
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
So long...they just got complete w/ a lot of projects for the RSX...and it's been out how long? Long R&D = better products if you ask me. Kick back and wait and you be 100% satisfied when it does come out. Patience my friend, patience....
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:01 PM
  #6  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
Exactly. I don't really want to plug in a new ECU that hasn't been debugged.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:27 PM
  #7  
provench's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,858
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC
So question ... for a car like the TSX ... if the SC puts down like 30-50 WHP (or whatever) are we talking torque steer issues? I mean ... this is no 260HP CL-S we are talking about here so figured we might have some room before the torque steer gets too serious.

If Acura does do anything exciting with the TSX (like IMA AWD ... which is pretty likely in the 4 year time frame) then I might just fit up my TSX with a supercharger/turbo. Cause my TSX will be 4-5 years old with 50-60K miles ... still a baby
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 11:34 PM
  #8  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Exactly. I don't really want to plug in a new ECU that hasn't been debugged.
No kidding, I'm speaking from experience after using the Hondata Stage 4 and S200 units with the various versions of RomEditor. You want them to take the time and work things out or the problems related to tuning can frustrate you to no end.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 09:57 AM
  #9  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by provench
So question ... for a car like the TSX ... if the SC puts down like 30-50 WHP (or whatever) are we talking torque steer issues? I mean ... this is no 260HP CL-S we are talking about here so figured we might have some room before the torque steer gets too serious.

If Acura does do anything exciting with the TSX (like IMA AWD ... which is pretty likely in the 4 year time frame) then I might just fit up my TSX with a supercharger/turbo. Cause my TSX will be 4-5 years old with 50-60K miles ... still a baby

won't be too bad.....trq steer......or bad chasis design as Car and Driver so incorrectly likes to claim.... is amplified by LSDs on FWD cars.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 09:58 AM
  #10  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Wouldn't want to run S/C without engine management.


It can be done just won't be able to run highboost. CLS runs fine....just can't go over conservative 5PSI.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 10:27 AM
  #11  
provench's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,858
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC
Originally Posted by Zapata
won't be too bad.....trq steer......or bad chasis design as Car and Driver so incorrectly likes to claim.... is amplified by LSDs on FWD cars.
Hmm - maybe this is the path I need to wait for ... keep the TSX and throw in a S/C when it comes out?? What kinda (i know it's a lame way to measure) 0-60 cut are we talking .5 sec? How about WHP increase? What's resonable to expect based on other similar SC Acura's (RSX maybe?)?

Any resale considerations?
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 09:14 PM
  #12  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by provench
Hmm - maybe this is the path I need to wait for ... keep the TSX and throw in a S/C when it comes out?? What kinda (i know it's a lame way to measure) 0-60 cut are we talking .5 sec? How about WHP increase? What's resonable to expect based on other similar SC Acura's (RSX maybe?)?

Any resale considerations?

k24 should respond well to a S/C. I would suspect a good amout of trq increase which is wha t the TSX needs more than HP. .5 second increase withouth issue if the power numbers are similar to the RSXS. If the S/C could apply another 30-40ftlbs of trq.....the TSX should be in the mid to high 14s. Resale....welp unless you find somebody who wants a S/C TSX....you'll never recover the cost. Best just to have it uninstalled and part it out. You'll make more money.


looking at the dyno plots the S/C will make the TSX into a completel different car. Power will be had at much lower RPMs making the car a JOY to drive. TSX being a lighter car helps alot too.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 01:57 AM
  #13  
Stokeless_TSX's Avatar
Stokeless
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,856
Likes: 0
From: South East Daygo
hmm i would much rather have a turbo kit seeing the results of the one off HKS kit in import tuner...350 whp and could have gotten more on a stock block.....hmm with a built one i can get my 400 whp =)
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 11:14 AM
  #14  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
SC puts out instant torque when you step on the pedal but tire traction becomes an issue. The car won't go much faster if the tires are spinning. I'd go for the turbo route as well but not anytime soon. Stokeless can go first!
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 12:35 PM
  #15  
jonnerd154's Avatar
Computer Nerd
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Exactly. I don't really want to plug in a new ECU that hasn't been debugged.
My friend's dad just bought the JDM ECU for his RX7. Awesome performance, but when he turned the head lights on one light would come up, 1 second later the other one would come up, then the first one would go down. ...this cycle repeated forever! I was laughing my ass off, but then thought, "what if that problem was shown with a VTEC solenoid on my car....I was quite scared.


I'll wait for it to be fully hammered down.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 03:08 PM
  #16  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
hmm i would much rather have a turbo kit seeing the results of the one off HKS kit in import tuner...350 whp and could have gotten more on a stock block.....hmm with a built one i can get my 400 whp =)


yea turbo = more power up top but TSX for daily driving IMHO.....S/C is better. Big power=big lag. Around the town having the S/C put the power down right away would be great.....
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 03:34 PM
  #17  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
If you study the TSX dyno chart, the TSX has good low end torque for daily driving. It's the mid and high that need improvement. Also, with a properly sized turbo setup, lag should be minimum.

Reply
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:53 PM
  #18  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by JTso
If you study the TSX dyno chart, the TSX has good low end torque for daily driving. It's the mid and high that need improvement. Also, with a properly sized turbo setup, lag should be minimum.

First of all........awesome dyno. You have that car dialed in well Comptech S/C on that would be like 210hp/190fltbs. That's insane. More power than a stock AT CLS and those run high 14s. Talk about a great alternative to the 330i!!!


I'm coming from a car that has 210fltbs trq on tap....albeit heavier.....

Up top the trq will help in passing people on the highway..........especially with people in the car. The S/C will all that flat trq line to continue instead of fall off.

Yes def the TSX does have ADEQUATE trq for daily driving.....but the S/C would hopefully add 30ftlbs or so accross the board? That would give about 180flbs @ wheels? 3241 lbs car that's pretty good.


Unless Comptech goes with a Centerfugial blower.....the power increase will be pretty much the same throught the power band; which for this car is fantastic.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:49 AM
  #19  
xizor's Avatar
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
From: NOVA
there a lot of benefits to a SC, of course the power band, instant response. but if your car is your daily driver, there is a lot less to worry about. less tuning necessary, less parts, less to break, but less potential. i think its a good upgrade for an everyday car, everyone I know with big aftermarket turbos usually end up working on their car as much as they drive it (which may not be a bad thing for some gearheads).
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:03 PM
  #20  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
Everything is true except the less tuning part. Jacking Racing produced a standard SC package with low boost (6psi) but later decided to team up with Hondata to provide a better solution. Just about every JRSC experienced tip-in detonation problem from their standard setup due to instant power but lack of tuning capability and the appropriate fueling to address it. One of the main problems is high temp generated by the blower and no intercooler to lower the intake temp and it causes detonation problems.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2004 | 09:26 AM
  #21  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally Posted by JTso
Everything is true except the less tuning part. Jacking Racing produced a standard SC package with low boost (6psi) but later decided to team up with Hondata to provide a better solution. Just about every JRSC experienced tip-in detonation problem from their standard setup due to instant power but lack of tuning capability and the appropriate fueling to address it. One of the main problems is high temp generated by the blower and no intercooler to lower the intake temp and it causes detonation problems.

i wouldn't add FI on the car without engine management.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rp_guy
Member Cars for Sale
9
Jul 16, 2017 07:33 AM
CL-S progression 01
Car Parts for Sale
65
Jan 26, 2016 04:15 PM
Joe Avesyan
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
Sep 29, 2015 03:57 PM
k6biv
Car Parts for Sale
45
Sep 22, 2015 02:06 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:26 AM.