Delmiroc

I e-mail comptech couple of days ago and I got no responce. what's the last word on this supercharger? does anyone know ?

Dan Martin

They're probably waiting for HONDATA to finish up.

CGTSX2004

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Wouldn't want to run S/C without engine management.

Delmiroc

why is HONDATA taken so freakin long to come up with a reflash or new ECU

cmf

So long...they just got complete w/ a lot of projects for the RSX...and it's been out how long? Long R&D = better products if you ask me. Kick back and wait and you be 100% satisfied when it does come out. Patience my friend, patience....

Dan Martin

Exactly. I don't really want to plug in a new ECU that hasn't been debugged.

provench

So question ... for a car like the TSX ... if the SC puts down like 30-50 WHP (or whatever) are we talking torque steer issues? I mean ... this is no 260HP CL-S we are talking about here so figured we might have some room before the torque steer gets too serious.

If Acura does do anything exciting with the TSX (like IMA AWD ... which is pretty likely in the 4 year time frame) then I might just fit up my TSX with a supercharger/turbo. Cause my TSX will be 4-5 years old with 50-60K miles ... still a baby

JTso

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No kidding, I'm speaking from experience after using the Hondata Stage 4 and S200 units with the various versions of RomEditor. You want them to take the time and work things out or the problems related to tuning can frustrate you to no end.

Zapata

won't be too bad.....trq steer......or bad chasis design as Car and Driver so incorrectly likes to claim.... is amplified by LSDs on FWD cars.

Zapata

It can be done just won't be able to run highboost. CLS runs fine....just can't go over conservative 5PSI.

provench

Hmm - maybe this is the path I need to wait for ... keep the TSX and throw in a S/C when it comes out?? What kinda (i know it's a lame way to measure) 0-60 cut are we talking .5 sec? How about WHP increase? What's resonable to expect based on other similar SC Acura's (RSX maybe?)?

Any resale considerations?

Zapata

k24 should respond well to a S/C. I would suspect a good amout of trq increase which is wha t the TSX needs more than HP. .5 second increase withouth issue if the power numbers are similar to the RSXS. If the S/C could apply another 30-40ftlbs of trq.....the TSX should be in the mid to high 14s. Resale....welp unless you find somebody who wants a S/C TSX....you'll never recover the cost. Best just to have it uninstalled and part it out. You'll make more money.


looking at the dyno plots the S/C will make the TSX into a completel different car. Power will be had at much lower RPMs making the car a JOY to drive. TSX being a lighter car helps alot too.

Stokeless_TSX

hmm i would much rather have a turbo kit seeing the results of the one off HKS kit in import tuner...350 whp and could have gotten more on a stock block.....hmm with a built one i can get my 400 whp =)

JTso

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SC puts out instant torque when you step on the pedal but tire traction becomes an issue. The car won't go much faster if the tires are spinning. I'd go for the turbo route as well but not anytime soon. Stokeless can go first!

jonnerd154

My friend's dad just bought the JDM ECU for his RX7. Awesome performance, but when he turned the head lights on one light would come up, 1 second later the other one would come up, then the first one would go down. ...this cycle repeated forever! I was laughing my ass off, but then thought, "what if that problem was shown with a VTEC solenoid on my car....I was quite scared.


I'll wait for it to be fully hammered down.

Zapata

yea turbo = more power up top but TSX for daily driving IMHO.....S/C is better. Big power=big lag. Around the town having the S/C put the power down right away would be great.....

JTso

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If you study the TSX dyno chart, the TSX has good low end torque for daily driving. It's the mid and high that need improvement. Also, with a properly sized turbo setup, lag should be minimum.

Zapata

First of all........awesome dyno. You have that car dialed in well Comptech S/C on that would be like 210hp/190fltbs. That's insane. More power than a stock AT CLS and those run high 14s. Talk about a great alternative to the 330i!!!


I'm coming from a car that has 210fltbs trq on tap....albeit heavier.....

Up top the trq will help in passing people on the highway..........especially with people in the car. The S/C will all that flat trq line to continue instead of fall off.

Yes def the TSX does have ADEQUATE trq for daily driving.....but the S/C would hopefully add 30ftlbs or so accross the board? That would give about 180flbs @ wheels? 3241 lbs car that's pretty good.


Unless Comptech goes with a Centerfugial blower.....the power increase will be pretty much the same throught the power band; which for this car is fantastic.

xizor

there a lot of benefits to a SC, of course the power band, instant response. but if your car is your daily driver, there is a lot less to worry about. less tuning necessary, less parts, less to break, but less potential. i think its a good upgrade for an everyday car, everyone I know with big aftermarket turbos usually end up working on their car as much as they drive it (which may not be a bad thing for some gearheads).

JTso

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Everything is true except the less tuning part. Jacking Racing produced a standard SC package with low boost (6psi) but later decided to team up with Hondata to provide a better solution. Just about every JRSC experienced tip-in detonation problem from their standard setup due to instant power but lack of tuning capability and the appropriate fueling to address it. One of the main problems is high temp generated by the blower and no intercooler to lower the intake temp and it causes detonation problems.

Zapata

i wouldn't add FI on the car without engine management.