big brake upgrade????
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Apparently some of you have not had experience with BBK's. Yes the TSX doesn't need the BBK as bad as the TL b/c it is less weight and only packs a 2.4, but the 1 piston caliper isn't enough to do the job. Any BBK will upgrade you to a 4 piston caliper, 13" slotted or combo rotor, SS brake lines, and high performance ceramic pad. Yes, slotted rotors, SS brake lines, and a better pad like Hawk's will definitely help significantly but you won't match up to an enlarged caliper with more pistons and more contact area on the rotor. The enlarged rotor will dissipate absorb and dissipate heat better, the lines won't flex under repeated braking, and the 4 piston caliper will apply more equal brake pressure to the rotor. And adding a 2pc disc will further decrease spinning weight, dissipate heat better, and allow for more equal brake force.
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Originally Posted by PJS
Spot on Excelerate - but don't downplay the bling aspect of a BBK. That's as much a valid reason as the technical merits are.
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
True. There is show and go when doing a BBK. A guy who is just installing bolt ons may not necessarily need per se a BBK, and therefore it would be used more for aesthetics than the actual mechanical aspect of it. However, someone who has FI or who is doing any track time/autocross will notice his stock brake system to be deficient after doing a number of hard stops. I personally installed a BBK years ago b/c 2 times my brakes didn't do what I needed them to do, and that was stop in a reasonable distance. At the time I could only come up with the Power Slot Plus upgrade BBK, which was just enlarged rotors, and rear conversion to disc and 4 wheel SS brake lines. This improved the situation dramatically but I never do track time so I haven't tested them there. However now that I am FI too I have a ROTORA 2 pc 330X30MM BBK coming in to help out on the braking situation b/c I need that extra braking force/pedal leverage when trying to come from a stop from high speeds.
All very true, but it's should be pointed out that the increased braking power also has to be viewed with additional stress being put on the suspension, chassis, and most of all, the tyres.
Poor tyre choice could see them being asked for more than they can deliver. Or put another way, more faith could be put in them but found to be flawed thinking if/when the question is asked of them.
So, bling/cachet factor to one side, if you are looking additional performance on the roads, make sure the tyres are up to the task themselves - and IMO, high milers aren't due to their compound.
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Originally Posted by PJS
FI? Sorry, don't recall that acronym.
IIRC, Excelerate is boostin' ~15 lbs in his car...and trust me, it's faaaast...
...but I think I could take him
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Originally Posted by PJS
FI? Sorry, don't recall that acronym.
All very true, but it's should be pointed out that the increased braking power also has to be viewed with additional stress being put on the suspension, chassis, and most of all, the tyres.
Poor tyre choice could see them being asked for more than they can deliver. Or put another way, more faith could be put in them but found to be flawed thinking if/when the question is asked of them.
So, bling/cachet factor to one side, if you are looking additional performance on the roads, make sure the tyres are up to the task themselves - and IMO, high milers aren't due to their compound.
All very true, but it's should be pointed out that the increased braking power also has to be viewed with additional stress being put on the suspension, chassis, and most of all, the tyres.
Poor tyre choice could see them being asked for more than they can deliver. Or put another way, more faith could be put in them but found to be flawed thinking if/when the question is asked of them.
So, bling/cachet factor to one side, if you are looking additional performance on the roads, make sure the tyres are up to the task themselves - and IMO, high milers aren't due to their compound.
You do not need to upgrade the master cylinder when doing hte ROTORA BBK's. It is a balanced setup.
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Since we are on the BBK topic, I was wondering if anyone using the DC5-R (2-pot I think) BBK? I saw a couple of TSX or Euro-R has it, and looks pretty neat. I was browsing on the RSX-Forum and found there's a few of it on sell.
So my question is, can we use our stock rotor (In my case I'm running RacingBrake Slotted rotor), and just buy the DC5-R Calipers??? Any other part is needed?
So my question is, can we use our stock rotor (In my case I'm running RacingBrake Slotted rotor), and just buy the DC5-R Calipers??? Any other part is needed?
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