Wishlist for the 2007 TSX
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Wishlist for the 2007 TSX
I was wondering if Acura is actually paying attention to forums like these. If yes, then I have wishlist for what I would like to see in the 2007 TSX. The upgrades that we would like too see should be reasonable and sensible enough to keep the character of the TSX unchanged and also financially viable and competitive in the current market segment where it stands. Here's my wishlist;
- Atleast 30 ft-lbs torque & 30 HP boost
- Midrange control in audio system EQ
- Audio system personalization with memory
- Intgrated Voice ID control for iPod with tag display
- USB 2.0 interface to audio system
- Integrated MP3 with ID tagging support in audio system
- Sub-woofer
- 18-inch wheels with performance tires
- 1-touch up-down windows on all 4 windows
- 1-touch turnlight blinkers
- Autolocking of doors at 10mph/preset speed limit
- Fully heated and 8-way power passenger seat
- Atleast 30 ft-lbs torque & 30 HP boost
- Midrange control in audio system EQ
- Audio system personalization with memory
- Intgrated Voice ID control for iPod with tag display
- USB 2.0 interface to audio system
- Integrated MP3 with ID tagging support in audio system
- Sub-woofer
- 18-inch wheels with performance tires
- 1-touch up-down windows on all 4 windows
- 1-touch turnlight blinkers
- Autolocking of doors at 10mph/preset speed limit
- Fully heated and 8-way power passenger seat
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Originally Posted by dipkat
- Atleast 30 ft-lbs torque & 30 HP boost
- Midrange control in audio system EQ
- Audio system personalization with memory
- Intgrated Voice ID control for iPod with tag display
- USB 2.0 interface to audio system
- Integrated MP3 with ID tagging support in audio system
- Sub-woofer
- 18-inch wheels with performance tires
- 1-touch up-down windows on all 4 windows
- 1-touch turnlight blinkers
- Autolocking of doors at 10mph/preset speed limit
- Fully heated and 8-way power passenger seat
- More power, always good, but we'd need to turbo to do this
- No Acura systems have midrange control (the RL has an EQ) so unless they go with that system, I'd have to say its unlikely.
- Why do iPod standard, if they can sell it as an option?
- USB, ID tags, and sub.... all nice, if the RDX gets this, look for it in the next TSX
- 18 wheels, maybe, but most likely still an option... look at the RL.
- Auto up windows, nope, gotta have something extra for the upper cars.
- I don't think any acuras have one touch blinkers? What are they? Don't they already do this?
- Good chance for autolocking doors (thought personally I hate this...)
- No chance of a fully heated passenger seat. (OPDS), 8 way seats doubtful.
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
do you think it's possible to get 235hp out of a naturally aspirated 4 banger engine? I mean I'm impressed they got 205.
I could care less about the other items though. The TSX is getting too expensive as it is.
I'd still like to see a factory 2800lb TSX with only the bare necessities.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Especially when 205 is really like 215 under the old SAE method. So really we're talking about 245hp which is more than the S2000. Not realistic, especially without forced induction.
I could care less about the other items though. The TSX is getting too expensive as it is.
I'd still like to see a factory 2800lb TSX with only the bare necessities.
I could care less about the other items though. The TSX is getting too expensive as it is.
I'd still like to see a factory 2800lb TSX with only the bare necessities.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Especially when 205 is really like 215 under the old SAE method. So really we're talking about 245hp which is more than the S2000. Not realistic, especially without forced induction.
I could care less about the other items though. The TSX is getting too expensive as it is.
I'd still like to see a factory 2800lb TSX with only the bare necessities.
I could care less about the other items though. The TSX is getting too expensive as it is.
I'd still like to see a factory 2800lb TSX with only the bare necessities.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I'd like to see future improvements aimed at performance/handling. More interior appointments = more weight. That's one thing the TSX doesn't need more of
The PS Exaltos available for the Civic Si would be perfect. They're getting great write-ups.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I'd like to see future improvements aimed at performance/handling. More interior appointments = more weight. That's one thing the TSX doesn't need more of
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Originally Posted by dipkat
I understand that it would be difficult to get more HP and torque from this NA engine. I think the others should not be too difficult to upgrade.
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one touch moonroof doesn't add weight. Only other thing is the RDX powerplant as an option. Honda is already giving you lots of options at well below the price of most companies.
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those changes are not gonna happen altho i can see the autolock feature as a possibility.
the next TSX is in 07 as an 08 model so it wouldnt be in acura's best interest to update the 07. besides, the 06 one IS the refreshed model year.
the next TSX is in 07 as an 08 model so it wouldnt be in acura's best interest to update the 07. besides, the 06 one IS the refreshed model year.
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Originally Posted by Colin
Ok, I'll play. since it is likely the car will be all new for 2008(ish), I doubt there will be any changes for 2007. However, if this was a "younger car"....
- More power, always good, but we'd need to turbo to do this
- More power, always good, but we'd need to turbo to do this
Originally Posted by Colin
- No Acura systems have midrange control (the RL has an EQ) so unless they go with that system, I'd have to say its unlikely.
Originally Posted by Colin
- Why do iPod standard, if they can sell it as an option?
Originally Posted by Colin
- USB, ID tags, and sub.... all nice, if the RDX gets this, look for it in the next TSX
Originally Posted by Colin
- 18 wheels, maybe, but most likely still an option... look at the RL.
Originally Posted by Colin
- Auto up windows, nope, gotta have something extra for the upper cars.
Originally Posted by Colin
- I don't think any acuras have one touch blinkers? What are they? Don't they already do this?
Originally Posted by Colin
- Good chance for autolocking doors (thought personally I hate this...)
Originally Posted by Colin
- No chance of a fully heated passenger seat. (OPDS), 8 way seats doubtful
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Originally Posted by Colin
Of course its not hard, especially if the technology already exists. The question is economic feasability and model positioning. They will not spend that kind of money for one year's production. In order to turn a profit on the car, you have to produce X number of vehicles exactly the same so recoupe the costs of changing the production line. This is why the most common change is wheels and bumpers.
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
So what you're saying is you want if you can't have
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My ideal TSX:
200+ hp K24
Light 17x8 alloys with summer rubber
Sport suspension
ABS (maybe some brembos)
VSA
A/C
power locks
power windows
cd player
HID's
That's it.
I don't need a sunroof, crazy sound system, leather, power seats, "mood lighting", DBW, dual zone climate control, or 200lbs of sound damping material crammed into every nook and cranny. I just want a nice tossable everyday car that's not too big yet still able to fit an adult in the back seat.
Remove the power seats, sunroof, and half the damping material and I'm sure they're already sub-3000lbs. Throw in an aluminum hood and trunk (like the Miata) and 2800lbs shouldn't be that unobtainable.
Cars are getting more bloated than software these days. I miss the lightweight cars of yesteryear.
200+ hp K24
Light 17x8 alloys with summer rubber
Sport suspension
ABS (maybe some brembos)
VSA
A/C
power locks
power windows
cd player
HID's
That's it.
I don't need a sunroof, crazy sound system, leather, power seats, "mood lighting", DBW, dual zone climate control, or 200lbs of sound damping material crammed into every nook and cranny. I just want a nice tossable everyday car that's not too big yet still able to fit an adult in the back seat.
Remove the power seats, sunroof, and half the damping material and I'm sure they're already sub-3000lbs. Throw in an aluminum hood and trunk (like the Miata) and 2800lbs shouldn't be that unobtainable.
Cars are getting more bloated than software these days. I miss the lightweight cars of yesteryear.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
Its found in all VW models. You simply tap the stalk for the lane-change/turn-indicator once and it blinks it for 3-4 times. VW calls it the Autobahn lane change feature. Its very cool though.
Do all sports cars have this? Like Porsche/Ferrari etc? I mean I can see the need for it on the autobahn if you are flying.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
With the 06 TSX, they did bring down the bluetooth from the TL and the intelligent maintenance minder from the RL if I am not mistaken. I dont see why they cannot add a little more in a year from now.
first 3 years of current gen model: very little change with minor updates
4th year: Refreshing - changes to front and rear fascia and updated interior and features
5th year: no change
6th year (reset to 1st): new model year roll out (next gen)
it's nice already that the bluetooth feature is now standard. i wasn't expecting something like to be available for the TSX for 06. u can't have everything. that's y there's the TL and RL with more features. and i'm betting they're saving some of the features we would like to have (turbocharged I4; AWD; etc etc) for the 2nd gen TSX in MY08.
btw, those one touch blinkers are freaking annoying (BMW anyone?) and the reason acura most likely will never have it is simply cuz it's a german thing. even Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson find this feature stupid cuz if you accidently hit the stalk, it blinks...and then u intuitively want to turn it off by moving the stalk back to it's neutral position only to find now that it's blinking the other side...
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Originally Posted by dipkat
To get more performance out of the TSX you would need a lot more than performance tires. In the meanwhile, why not have more goodies to play with ? I dont think any of the other features really add weight that would be significant. I want a car that allows me to play with on the inside too.
If you keep adding things here and there over time, the cumulative weight gain will be substantial. Look at the ever increasing curb weights of cars over the last twenty years. Every gen is a little bit heavier than the last.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
My ideal TSX:
200+ hp K24
Light 17x8 alloys with summer rubber
Sport suspension
ABS (maybe some brembos)
VSA
A/C
power locks
power windows
cd player
HID's
That's it.
I don't need a sunroof, crazy sound system, leather, power seats, "mood lighting", DBW, dual zone climate control, or 200lbs of sound damping material crammed into every nook and cranny. I just want a nice tossable everyday car that's not too big yet still able to fit an adult in the back seat.
Remove the power seats, sunroof, and half the damping material and I'm sure they're already sub-3000lbs. Throw in an aluminum hood and trunk (like the Miata) and 2800lbs shouldn't be that unobtainable.
Cars are getting more bloated than software these days. I miss the lightweight cars of yesteryear.
200+ hp K24
Light 17x8 alloys with summer rubber
Sport suspension
ABS (maybe some brembos)
VSA
A/C
power locks
power windows
cd player
HID's
That's it.
I don't need a sunroof, crazy sound system, leather, power seats, "mood lighting", DBW, dual zone climate control, or 200lbs of sound damping material crammed into every nook and cranny. I just want a nice tossable everyday car that's not too big yet still able to fit an adult in the back seat.
Remove the power seats, sunroof, and half the damping material and I'm sure they're already sub-3000lbs. Throw in an aluminum hood and trunk (like the Miata) and 2800lbs shouldn't be that unobtainable.
Cars are getting more bloated than software these days. I miss the lightweight cars of yesteryear.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
iPod is a cultural phenomenon. The sooner all car manufacturer's get it, the better it is for their bottom-line/image.
Its found in all VW models. You simply tap the stalk for the lane-change/turn-indicator once and it blinks it for 3-4 times. VW calls it the Autobahn lane change feature. Its very cool though.
Again, this is common place and not a premium feature in most of the newer models.
Its found in all VW models. You simply tap the stalk for the lane-change/turn-indicator once and it blinks it for 3-4 times. VW calls it the Autobahn lane change feature. Its very cool though.
Again, this is common place and not a premium feature in most of the newer models.
- Sounds like a cool feature, but I just hold the blinker stalk half way down. To do it the VW way, I'd imagine you'll need a microprocessor. I guess it's not something on Honda's radar
- Acura safety technology has sensors (OPDS) under the leather. This is the reason the seat backs are not heated. This won't change.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
With the 06 TSX, they did bring down the bluetooth from the TL and the intelligent maintenance minder from the RL if I am not mistaken. I dont see why they cannot add a little more in a year from now.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
Then why pay the extra for the Acura badge, if luxury is not the primary requirement !? A better Accord V6 should suffice and you will also get a slightly roomier car and cheaper service.
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Originally Posted by TypeRS
even Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson find this feature stupid cuz if you accidently hit the stalk, it blinks...and then u intuitively want to turn it off by moving the stalk back to it's neutral position only to find now that it's blinking the other side...
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
So instead of applying down/up force to the stalk (without engaging the continous position) for enough time for the signal to blink 3-4 times (maybe 3 seconds) the VW engineers made it so you only have to tap it. Neat idea, but it doesn't scream luxury to me... more of a "oh neat" thing. Though I'm sure there was some idea behind less time for the driver to have his/her hand somewhat away from the wheel (as it can be done with my pinky).
Do all sports cars have this? Like Porsche/Ferrari etc? I mean I can see the need for it on the autobahn if you are flying.
Do all sports cars have this? Like Porsche/Ferrari etc? I mean I can see the need for it on the autobahn if you are flying.
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I could care less if it had an "A" on the front grille. If the TSX was brought over here as a Honda I would have bought it too. I never thought of Acura to be a luxury brand either. NSX and RSX aren't exactly luxurious in my books. Sure the TL and RL are nice, but there's nothing wrong with being sporty.
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Originally Posted by Colin
-It's better for their bottom line to sell it as an accessory
- Sounds like a cool feature, but I just hold the blinker stalk half way down. To do it the VW way, I'd imagine you'll need a microprocessor. I guess it's not something on Honda's radar
- Acura safety technology has sensors (OPDS) under the leather. This is the reason the seat backs are not heated. This won't change.
- Sounds like a cool feature, but I just hold the blinker stalk half way down. To do it the VW way, I'd imagine you'll need a microprocessor. I guess it's not something on Honda's radar
- Acura safety technology has sensors (OPDS) under the leather. This is the reason the seat backs are not heated. This won't change.
BMW's funky new turn signal gizmo is a prime example of over-engineering. You shouldn't have to think about the correct sequence to perform a basic function.
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Why not just a voice command, "Turn Left" and "Turn Right". Furthermore dipkat, how fricken fast are YOU driving that you "need" something like this in New Jersey?
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Originally Posted by Colin
-It's better for their bottom line to sell it as an accessory
- Sounds like a cool feature, but I just hold the blinker stalk half way down. To do it the VW way, I'd imagine you'll need a microprocessor. I guess it's not something on Honda's radar
- Acura safety technology has sensors (OPDS) under the leather. This is the reason the seat backs are not heated. This won't change.
- Sounds like a cool feature, but I just hold the blinker stalk half way down. To do it the VW way, I'd imagine you'll need a microprocessor. I guess it's not something on Honda's radar
- Acura safety technology has sensors (OPDS) under the leather. This is the reason the seat backs are not heated. This won't change.
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Don't get me wrong dipkat, but if Honda copied everything VW did don't you think that would be a little unoriginal?... Furthermore, don't you think Honda would get flamed for copying something that evidently is VW designed?
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Originally Posted by TypeRS
ya know, Dip Kat, there's a nice Audi A8 W12 that has all the features you could ever want...for a cool $110,000
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
Don't get me wrong dipkat, but if Honda copied everything VW did don't you think that would be a little unoriginal?... Furthermore, don't you think Honda would get flamed for copying something that evidently is VW designed?
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Why not just a voice command, "Turn Left" and "Turn Right". Furthermore dipkat, how fricken fast are YOU driving that you "need" something like this in New Jersey?
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
Don't get me wrong dipkat, but if Honda copied everything VW did don't you think that would be a little unoriginal?... Furthermore, don't you think Honda would get flamed for copying something that evidently is VW designed?
case in point: i personally like the headlight turnknow switches found in audis, vws and bmws but ull never see them in domestics and japanese makes...
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Originally Posted by dipkat
So, if the TSX came up with a turbocharged 4 banger for a TSX, would it be called as copying the VW? I dont think so.
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Originally Posted by dipkat
So, if the TSX came up with a turbocharged 4 banger for a TSX, would it be called as copying the VW? I dont think so. Improving should not be seen as copying.
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Originally Posted by cusetsx
Why not just a voice command, "Turn Left" and "Turn Right". Furthermore dipkat, how fricken fast are YOU driving that you "need" something like this in New Jersey?
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Originally Posted by dipkat
I have used it on my sister's Jetta and it is very cool. Also I think the real value add is for the 6MT more than for the 5A
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So, if the TSX came up with a turbocharged 4 banger for a TSX, would it be called as copying the VW? I dont think so. Improving should not be seen as copying.