yungwunn911

my 05 TSX, has a rock chip on the edge of the door panel. Its been like 2 weeks, and its rusted already.

Will acura cover this?

-mike

kappa821

no i tried

LuvMyTSX

Sucks. I just covered a chip with touch-up paint before it rusted. Hopefully it holds out. I have a feeling it happened with the car was in for service to get the clips on the headlights, per the TSB, because it wasn't there before, and the chip is right on the edge of the headlight. Grrrrr.

yungwunn911

hmm, im going to my deal tomrrow. I think its crap, that a 2 year old car has rock chips to start with.

-mike

CGTSX07

let us know what happens, we all have rock chips

nj2pa2nc

good luck-my car is 7 months old with rock chips thanks mainly to those trucks on the highways. The paint on the tsx seems to be lousy. My previous cars never chipped that easy. I use touch-up paint to stop it from rusting. looks ok at a distance.

joerockt

seems to be?

nj2pa2nc

let me change that IT IS LOUSY-MUST BE WATERPAINT

joerockt

Shouldnt be a surprise. For the past 3 years people have been complaining about the paint on here...

1StGenCL

Past three years? Since i joined back in 2000 ppl have been complaining about acura paint and rock chips

joerockt

I was speaking specifically about TSX's and rock chips, but yea they all have the same issue...

nj2pa2nc

my 05 honda civic ex-se must have better paint-extremely few chips.

curls

Rock chips can happen on ANY car at ANY time, even during transport. Age of teh car has nothing to do with it. Following too close to a truck or even any vehicle on a road that isn't perfectly clear of all rocks, can and will cause rock chips.

To think this is Acura's fault and should be warrantied is crazy.

acurAspec

Should've bought a chip guard. I mean comon, imagine a little jagged edged rock hitting a painted surface at 60mph (100km/h). There is no chance for any paint to survive if it gets hit at the right angle... and your car gets hit with how many of these rocks daily? geeeeeeez

On another note, look into 3M Chip guard; clear plastic adhesive that goes on the front portion of the hood. costs a few hundred to save your $30,000+ car.

black label

Don't blame Acura, blame the Environmental Protection Agency. The can't put any of the additives that make paint strong in anymore (like lead). Basically any thing that makes paint strong and chip resistant also seems to cause cancer/birth defects/poisons the water/destroys the ozone layer blah blah blah.

If you through a rock at 60mph at your house, the paint would chip too.

If you don't want chips, don't tailgate.

CGTSX07

you don't have to tailgate to get rock chips. this is a pretty common issue among Acuras and tailgating/rocks hitting at 60mph does not explain why my coworkers 99 BMW M3 has zero rock chips and why my 07 TSX has them everywhere (hood, fenders, bumper, side mirrors).

xjohnkdoex

iTrader: (2)

word. i found a huge one on one of my mirrors. lots of indentations on the bumper too.

makes me sad since i'm getting the euro-r body kit. that thing is going to like like a crater-face after a few years.

nj2pa2nc

if a truck drives by you and kicks up rocks that end up chipping your car-that is not tailgating. I drive alot on the highways and do not tailgate but still have rock chips. My other cars-05 honda and 05 hyundai-also driven the same way as the tsx-do not have as many paint chips combined. did the paint change from the 05 to the 06 model year.

Switch

<- Detroit originally = worst roads in the country. I have probably 40 or 50 rock chips on the hood. Oh well, its a car and that'll happen. Acura will only cover if that rock chip rusts and then that rust eats a hole in the metal.

BAYAREATSX06

I just avoid freeways all together...living in the sf bay area it sucks ass but until I get my euro-r lip and clear bra it, my tires arent going to touch the freeway...

curls

They will only cover it (as per their guidelines, unless you find a NICE dealership), if the rust was a result of a manufacturer defect, or started below the paint. Anything caused by road debris is not covered, even if that rusts... because the CAUSE was not ACURA's fault.

yungwunn911

anyone think about adding extra layers of clear coar on their car?

supraken

iTrader: (1)

True, true, and true.... but I think Acura isn't the only company complying with the EPA (or at least I hope not), how come the other cars (non Acura's) I own doesn't have this problem? I think the paint on the TSX is just too easy to chip.

I too, have a few rust spots on the hood after paint chipped off. It's an '04, which means it's only 3 yrs old. What happens when the car is 7 yrs old? I can't imagine having a rusted HOOD on a 7 yr old car

Too bad Acurazine doesn't have a team that talks with Acura like the my.is (formerly is300.net) folks. Would be great if we can directly raise our concerns and feedback to them. Maybe we should talk to the AZ admins and get us such a team...

aaronng

That's because he doesn't take the same route as you do, he doesn't go for the same driving holidays as you do, also he might drive to work at a different time when there is less traffic.

CGTSX07

Actually, he drives the same route I do everyday but comes in 30 minutes later and leaves 30 minutes later...we live pretty close to each other and take the same exact highways to work. I actually hit less traffic than him because I come in to work earlier and leave work earlier.

I mentioned the years for a reason, a 99 compared to my 07 that I just bought this year. You would think there would be SOME chips, but no.

acutsx

Has anyone inquire to Acura about the lousy paint job ? I just got two chips on my passenger side front door from a small pebble kicked up by a passing car. This paint just chips off like as if it was not properly painted from the factory. My BMW 325 never had such problems. Even a civic has better paint job than TSX. For a $30,000 car, paint should be more durable than it is. should we start calling Acura customer service?

DCyamaha

I just noticed two chips that are rusting on my hood and the A piller (passenger side).

First off, i'm going to try to get it covered under warrenty. No car i've owned has rusted from paint chips caused by road debris (other than my TSX). If I leave it go, the whole hood will rust from underneath, won't it??

What happens if I cover it with touch up paint? will that stop the rust from spreading?

PJS

No, you need to treat the rust.
Obviously the stones have managed to chip below even the primer layer leaving the bare chassis with no protection.
You'll be lucky getting Acura to cover under warranty, as it's simply a hazard of driving, over which they've no control.
Yes, their paint is soft, but they'll argue it's perfectly adequate, etc. but it depends on how hard and much you want to push the situation.
Good luck and let us know their response.

yungwunn911

To anyone who has been saying that "you can get rock chips anywhere, anytime" or EPA blah, please. That's really all excuses.

Like mentioned above, this is a $30,000 car. My family, including me, have own MANY BMWs. I owned a 1992 318, which is the CHEAPEST bmw, you could possibly buy and there were very VERY few rock chips on it even those chips DID NOT RUST.

For a car to rust, the BARE METAL, literally has to oxidize. If there is a small chip, and the metal isnt exposed, no rust will occur.

If you still want to defend acura on this, be my guest, but a 30k car should not have this issue.

-mike

curls

yungwunn911 -- your 1992 BMW didn't have to conform to the EPA's mandate of fewer harmful aditives in paint. in 1992 you could add basically anything to the paint to make it stronger, etc... but these days you cannot because those additives have proven to be extremely harmful to people, animals, and the environment. By not having these additives, the paint is "weaker", and thus, chips easier.

I see you're in Jersey. industrial fallout will have a pronounced effect on how your paint looks over time, too. Say you get some rail dust or metallic particles embedded in your paint (highly common). Those particles will rust and take the surrounding paint with them, because the paint itself has metallic flake in it which will also rust. Its a compounding effect that you can't control easily without the use of a clay bar and careful waxing/sealing practices.

eggbert52

Well my Acura TSX is only 2 weeks old tomorrow yet when I drove on roads under construction I noticed little tiny bb like marks on the driver's side plastic bumper. Guess from reading what I've read on here I should be thankful. Nothing much I can do here right? As far as warranty is concerned.

nj2pa2nc

not all of jersey is industrial. there is quite alot of farmland and nice areas. try north west jersey it is beautiful there.

eggbert52

Ok with all due respect if I was a moderator here I would say to keep on topic. I think ANY state could have these issues even in the most beautiful areas. I just don't see where this helps the thread.

nj2pa2nc

i just wanted to point out something about jersey. My 06 tsx has more road chips than my 05 hyundai elantra Gt. The hyundai has alot more miles and it is driven on the same roads as the acura. Our 05 honda civic even had less chips. Ok I back on topic

TSeXy_Grl

ok after reading this thread, i learned nothing. how do we fix a rock chip that has rust already? wash it and then paint it? put some sort of coating on it? please advise. what have you all done to remedy the situation? AND PLEASE don't tell me go to the dealer. i want to do it myself. i'm an independent girl hahahahahaha ...... ok ok i'll be truthful.....i'll have one of my guy friends do it. but i'll buy the supplies.

please advise.

rabican

(this is copied and pasted from car car thread)


1.Apply isopropyl alcohol (ISP) to a Q-tip and dab on the rock chip or scratch a few times.
2.Take a clean towel and dry the paint chip.
3.With a utility knife cut the paint around the edge of the chip, the edge of the paint chip indentation will be slightly higher than the surrounding area and/or the edge of the chipped area may have separated from the metal surface or there could be some wax/dirt in the area or the paint may have oxidized on the edges (it is not absolutely necessary, but it does improve the results and will avoid leaving a dark outline)
4.Angle your blade toward the centre of the chip and press down gently. Work slowly and carefully, removing a small piece at a time, it's not necessary to remove a lot of material. Clean the area with isopropyl alcohol (IPA) again and allow it to dry.
5.With painters masking tape cover the area surrounding the rust spot
6.Use Nikkens ™3000 grit finishing paper and a Unigrit Sanding Block to remove any rust
7.Or a Proxxon Mill/Drill Unit Micromot 50/E
- http://www.tool-shop.co.uk/acatalog...held_Tools.html
8.Use an AutoSharp paint pen (http://www.autosharppen.com) colour matched to your vehicle. The pen itself is very easy to use. You simply shake it, depress the felt tip a few times to start the paint flow, and then begin to "colour" paint into the damaged areas, much like you would highlight a section of text in a book.
9.Do not to try to fix the chip in one application, apply a small amount of paint and ensure that you cover a small area surrounding the 'chip', allow to dry, repeat over a couple of days. Once the painted area is slightly higher than paint surface, allow to dry.
10.Once completely dry, using a Nikkens™ 3000 grit finishing paper and a Unigrit Sanding Block (previously soaked for 4 hours or over night) to 'feather' and level touch-up paint with the surrounding paint surface
11.Use Woolite® or a car shampoo on the chip repair for lubrication.
12.Use a very light pressure on the sanding block, lightly wiping the area often to check your progress
13.Next, using a Nikkens™ 3000 grit finishing paper and a Unigrit Sanding Block to reduce the high spot off of the chip repair, using the block in one direction only. Do not use a circular motion (it will produce swirls) or a back and forth motion and ensure the sanding block is always wet
14.Keep the area well lubricated with water and shampoo; otherwise it will dull the paint. Once the surface appears level, use a block to squeegee off the excess water / slush (3M™ Wetordry™ Rubber Squeegee, P/N 05517, 2 ¾-inch x 4 ¼-inch) If the water you are using has a high mineral content, don't let it dry on the car, as it could leave spots which may bleed through the new paint.
15.Dry the surface with a clean towel and inspect with your fingertips.
16.If you can feel a high spot, repeat the sanding process.
17.If done correctly, you will hardly notice the repair.
18.A good car polish (Menzerna Intensive Polish or Menzerna Final Polish II ) will restore the paints lustre
19.Finally apply wax/sealant protection (See also Wet Sanding, Rust Decontamination)

jwood_06TSX

If you do a search on the Wash & Wax forum, there are a ton of threads on how to do it but in short....

1) clean with alcohol
2) use a SHARP oject (knife or what have you) to tryand etch out the rust or uneven paint
3) clean again with alcohol
4) apply one coat paint via brush, toothpick method, or other
5) allow to dry for 2 days
6) apply another layer and allow to dry and repeat this step until you reach the level of the paint surrounding the scratch or above it
7) wet sand ir your comfortable, if not then use a light compound to even out the paint
8) apply as many layers of clear coat as you want in the same manor
9) apply wax to protect
10) done!

I personally will not be wet sanding as i don't feel comfortable doing that. i will probably just use the toothpick method in applying the paint, use a light abrasive to get it down, apply some clear coat and call it a day. Your only get more so no need to kill yourself, the few layers of paint and clear coat will help revent the rust from getting worse, just do your best in trying to get it off.


EDIT: HAHAH, i summarized what rubican just quoted so just ignore my post period!!!

rabican

"rabican"

Jeff_Chicago

Couldn't have said it better myself!

muncher

i hope your kids eat lead paint chips