So I'm getting out of the club at 2am. I give the valet guy my ticket. After 20 mins of waiting, I hear that my car gets into an accident, and the moronic valet guy crashes my car into a WALL....AND DRAGS IT FOR ANOTHER 50 FEET!

Instead of being apologetic, the manager of the valet service BLAMES THE ACCIDENT ON ME!! I'm so fuckin furious, I'm beyond words!

This happened @ Club Shelter in Hollywood. NEVER EVER LET ANYONE VALET YOUR CAR THERE!

Here's the damage.

 

Holly shit that sucks!!!

 

did you make sure that the valet company pays for the damages?

i'd be heated if i were you.

 

How in the world was this your fault

 

Wow, that is pretty messed up! So how are you planning on addressing it? Are they completely not taking any accountability?

 

how in the hell is that your fault! you better sue their asses
GOD DAMN YOURE RIMS ARE SO HOTT and they fucked them up, geez im so mad for you

 

um, more details please. How did they figure it was your fault. And did you accept that? You just drove off?

 

thats bull man.. what happened? they better take responsibility for that.. thats just wrong. looking at that picture makes me want to go to those valet idiots and let me know

 

Should have called the cops right then and there. File a small claims suit with all your evidence. Did you make a claim through your insurance?

 

 

Daaaaamnnnnnnn WTF. Yo I'm sorry that happened to you, somebody would have had to come out of the pocket right then.

 

By the way that wheel looks, I don't think that was an option.

 

Holy shit thats fucked up...

Please explain why they thought it was your fault???

 

Supposedly the "story" is that they remote started my car and the car took off w/o anyone in it.

They say it's "my fault" b/c you're not supposed to install a remote start on a manual car.

Now for those of you that have had experience with a remote start on a manual, the car will creep forward and stall.

Now there's no way in HELL the car would be moving fast enough to JUMP A CONCRETE ISLAND (which bent the rim the way it did), and then continue scraping the wall for another 50 feet!!!!

There's no way I would just leave the scene w/o insurance papers. So after almost fighting that fat f*ck that crashed my car (BTW, they were unwilling to give me their insurance info), I had to call the cops at 3am just to get their insurance info.

I ended up calling my dad @ 4am to bring the OEM rim since the Mayas were no longer holding tire pressure.

F*CK VALET DRIVERS!!

 

They are full of

Sue their ass off man!!!! Shit! It hurts just to look at your bent rim

Best of luck in getting it resolved dude!

 

how much is that rim gonna cost ya?

 

What the ?..

 

Why the hell would they remote start it anyway?? What a dumb excuse.

Damn, those poor Maya's

 

sorry but WHY OH WHY did you get the remote start...in SoCal !!!???

btw that whole bloody valet crew is probly gonna go back to Mexico for "vacation" real soon...

 

it hurts so bad to look at that poor rim. they shouldnt be using your remote start anyways. it is not there car they would loose any court case so I am sure they would settle if you tell them you are going to sue or take them to court.

 

That sux!!!! I would have called po po to.

 

Actually I think they are telling you the truth. What you think happened doesn't really make any sense. But I agree with everyone that they should not be remote starting your car. If they say they hit the button by accident then I think you might not have a case. If they say it was intentional then they will most likely have to pay for the damages. That said, you shouldn't have remote start on a manual car WITHOUT some sort of safety so things like this don't happen. And it's common sense to tell someone driving it not to leave it in gear. The car doesn't always stall when started.

 

Why didn't they put the PARKING BRAKE on when the parked the car?...

 

good point.

 

[QUOTE=Motohip] If they say they hit the button by accident then I think you might not have a case. If they say it was intentional then they will most likely have to pay for the damages. [QUOTE]

I don't agree. As long as the valet company's employee had possession of your keys and car they are responsible for any negligent actions that would result in damage to the car. If by pushing the remote start (knowingly or not) they through no fault of your own are responsible. You would most likely win this in court. Ignorance has never been an excuse that you can use in court in this country.

 

what the hell??!?! damn. what the heck?

what did the cops say? oh my god. how can remote start drag the fucking car that long against the wall?

that's the biggest pile of bullshit ever.

damn, i'm pissed and it's not even my car.

good luck man,

 

Wow... i thought it wouldn't get any worse... 6th gen accord -> 7th gen accord -> 1st gen tsx.. except this one wasn't totally dead.. Sue their ass off..

I'm pretty sure you did not give them permission to remotely start the car anyway..

 

To my knowledge, to get a legal remote start install on a manual car, there are a few safety things you must do to SET THE CAR UP TO BE STARTED, Every time.

1: Put car in neutral, nothing touching pedals, handbrake on.
2: With car still on, press and hold a combination or single button on the remote start key-fob.
3: remove key, exit car, press button to lock doors which in-turn stops the car from running, thus the car knows that once it's started again, it won't go anywhere (its in neutral and parking brake on, doors closed.). If any door is opened, the system should not allow the car to start with the key-fob until the above procedure is repeated.

So, unless they actually drove your car into a wall (likely!), or the system completely fubar'd and for some unknown reason they used the remote start on the car (why?), then I think you have a case against them.

The damages are gonna be pricey by the looks of it. SUE.

~Eric

 

By installing a remote start in a manual car, you would've already bypassed a main safety feature (namely the clutch) when starting the car. And yes, the car does move some distance with the starter and in gear. I was in a friend's Prelude with his clutch bypassed. He started the car forgetting that he has left it in gear, we were yanked forward a few feet before he stepped on the clutch to stop it. Also, if there is a slight decline then the car would really be rolling. Your best chance to claim insurance is prove negligence on the parking lot somehow.

 

So are you trying to tell me that "If" in fact it was a remote start issue, the remote start could get the car to move fast enough to do that much damage to the rim? I don't think so!!! No way in hell! I say the Valet guys were tryin to drift your car in the parking lot and curbed it! You had to be moving pretty goos to curb a wheel that bad!!!

 

I don't think that you have to prove anything other than the damage happened while the car was in the company's possession. However it happened it got damaged while they were responsible for it.

 

DAMN I just got my TSX, I frequent that club often too. Not letting them touch my car now

 

That is how I feel whenever there is a thread of a parking lot hit and run or a messed up situation like this. I get pissed like it happened to me.

 

Damn, I hope everything goes well for you and you get all damages settled and paid for... What they did and their excuse is unacceptable... I agree with other members when they say it pains me when they look at the damages even though its not our own car... You have one of the nicest SSM TSXs... Once again, hope everything goes smoothly

 

Actually, I've seen a Toyota P/U with a remote start left in gear pull thru the ebrake and hit a house hard enough to cause major damage to the stucco and the front end.

It sounds like they didn't yank on the ebrake real hard...

 

So this whole issue really comes down to liabilty.

1) Is it my fault for installing remote start on a manual car?

2)Is it the valet's fault since they were in possession of the car the entire time. Even though I had installed remote start, the actual damge was not caused by the act of installing the alarm, the damage was due to negligence of the valet service.

WHEN I LEAVE MY CAR IN VALET, I EXPECT MY CAR BACK IN EXACTLY THE SAME CONDITION I LEFT THE CAR.

Your input would be appreciated. I need to type a claim letter to their insurance company after I get all the facts straightened out.

 

Don't our cars come with Valet keys?

 

loxllxol,
Don't type a letter, call them. But before you do, get all of your facts on paper so that you can refer to your notes for details. Make sure to document the date, time, names of those involved (get the name of the valet and his manager, if you remember). When you decide to call the insurance company, ask them about their take on the situation. You may end up having an insurance adjuster and attorney on your side to get you car fixed. This is only after you've used your collision coverage. They will try to recoup the money through a process called subrogation.

Additionally, see if you have a valet slip/receipt. On the back of most of these tickets/receipts is an "agreement". If you still have that, take a look at it and see if there's any language about liability, etc. Ultimately, I agree with most on this thread. Regardless of whether or not you have a remote start mechanism in your car, you left your car in their care. The accident and damages occured under their care, therefore they should have some sort of liability in the damages caused to your car.

Best of luck to you and hopefully you'll get everything fixed.

 

Thats fcuked! ... being dragged 50ft? and they didn't want to show you their insurance info?.. seems like they were shittin bricks. I'd seek justice.

 

loxllxol, You really should install a toggle switch to the remote start so you can turn it off when you valet park the car or put it in for service. Its an easy install and it can really save your ass from situations like this. What kind of remote start do you have? I have a Viper system, all the remote starts from DEI have a toggle swich for this purpose. But there are some lazy installers out there that dont install it.

Sorry to hear about your car, hope it ends well.