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Old 09-08-2004, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
I see this thread in this light. Most of the posters here own a TSX and yeah...our car got ranked #1 by a "credible" publication. Please keep in mind that I use credible in a very loose sense. I just finished reading some of the posts from the link jcg878 provided and all of them are peeved.

My point is if you were to drop 26000 USD, you would want to see your car rated as #1. People want to justify their purchases. No one would really like to hear someone say to you, "wow, nice car, but this other car is much better." Obviously people buy for different reasons and one of the Legacy's main selling point is the fact that it's got a lot of horses under the hood.
Of course we have the opposite bias as they do. I just thought some of the posts over there were funny. Maybe when we see this article in R&T with the Legacy GT > TSX we'll get to test our own members' reactions.


jcg, who's going to Borders tonight and will take a look


edit: I also saw the quote Dan posted and was inspired to link, since I'm a jerk :P
Old 09-08-2004, 06:50 PM
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On a side note, it seems that these auto mags are elevating the Legacy into the near-lux category with these comparisons. I don't really think it belongs there, but I guess it's an arguable matter of classification.
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Originally Posted by jcg878
On a side note, it seems that these auto mags are elevating the Legacy into the near-lux category with these comparisons. I don't really think it belongs there, but I guess it's an arguable matter of classification.
Personally if the LGT had an interior that was on par with the TSX and Subaru reliability was a little better, I would be tempted by it. I think this car is the start of Subaru's move to become more up-market. They could be releasing some interesting things in the next couple years.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Personally if the LGT had an interior that was on par with the TSX and Subaru reliability was a little better, I would be tempted by it. I think this car is the start of Subaru's move to become more up-market. They could be releasing some interesting things in the next couple years.
Me 2. I saw it at two different auto shows. In Philly, there was one spinning around on a pedestal, untouchable by us mere mortals. In NYC, there were several on the showroom floor that we could get in. I was disappointed in the interior, since my well-known wagon prediliction attracts me to the Legacy wagon and I love AWD. Maybe they'll do what Nissan is doing to the Altima and upgrade the interior in a few years to hype up sales
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Damnit-how come it took me a week to catch up to this..I'm calling C&D so I can get my mag before everyone else. You guys are too darn quick for me...
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So typical of magazines.
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Look

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

Nothing makes you feel better than reading this WHOLE article!!!

Damn it feels good to be a TSX driver!!!!
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Hi, guys--I'm new to the forum.
I spent the last few days test driving the Subaru Outback wagon, thinking it would be nice to have a more flexible vehicle than a sedan. I drove 2 XTs (turbo) and one base 4-cylinder. The turbo is fast, no doubt. But the overall feel is a much looser car: less steering feel, some surge of the turbo, more body roll. Then I went back and drove the TSX again that I loved so much when I first drove one about 6 months ago. It was instant love again!
I also test drove a TL a couple of months back. Also lots of power, but the steering felt more remote, the car in general felt like a much bigger car, like my 91 Legend.
Bottom line: I finally bought a TSX, due in at the dealer tomorrow. PWP, which I think is very classy.
I've been following the TSX since its first appearance at the San Jose CA auto show. The TSX is much more fun to drive than the Audi, the G35, and even the 3-series, IMHO. I love it. Did I already say that?
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Originally Posted by Dr. T
Hi, guys--I'm new to the forum.
I spent the last few days test driving the Subaru Outback wagon, thinking it would be nice to have a more flexible vehicle than a sedan. I drove 2 XTs (turbo) and one base 4-cylinder. The turbo is fast, no doubt. But the overall feel is a much looser car: less steering feel, some surge of the turbo, more body roll. Then I went back and drove the TSX again that I loved so much when I first drove one about 6 months ago. It was instant love again!
I also test drove a TL a couple of months back. Also lots of power, but the steering felt more remote, the car in general felt like a much bigger car, like my 91 Legend.
Bottom line: I finally bought a TSX, due in at the dealer tomorrow. PWP, which I think is very classy.
I've been following the TSX since its first appearance at the San Jose CA auto show. The TSX is much more fun to drive than the Audi, the G35, and even the 3-series, IMHO. I love it. Did I already say that?
Congrat! another pwp owner now! good choice, good taste! And yes it drive better than Legacy, Mazda6, IS, G35, Audi, Volvo, Saab, MB and yes even the 3-series. Did you get 6sp or auto? my 6sp TSX make my wife & I hate to drive our other car....E46 328i. Well I have been repeat & repeat this a lot of time on everyboard and get frame a lot by those brand whore too!
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Originally Posted by ianS
And yes it drive better than Legacy, Mazda6, IS, G35, Audi, Volvo, Saab, MB and yes even the 3-series.
The TSX is more luxurious than a Rolls Royce, faster than a Viper, lighter than a Lotus, as comfortable as a Town Car, and has the off-road capability of a CJ-5. Best car ever!
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Originally Posted by bgillette
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

Nothing makes you feel better than reading this WHOLE article!!!

Damn it feels good to be a TSX driver!!!!
awesome read, thanks!
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Originally Posted by ianS
Congrat! another pwp owner now! good choice, good taste! And yes it drive better than Legacy, Mazda6, IS, G35, Audi, Volvo, Saab, MB and yes even the 3-series. Did you get 6sp or auto? my 6sp TSX make my wife & I hate to drive our other car....E46 328i. Well I have been repeat & repeat this a lot of time on everyboard and get frame a lot by those brand whore too!
I got the auto--I have to do lots of commuting in the Bay Area, and the clutch and knees suffer with a 6MT. I have been driving an S2000, so I know what I'm giving up. A hard decision. I figure my wife and daughter will also be driving the TSX, too.
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since i dont know how to post a new thread, ill ask here. is there a previous thread aboot the comparison test by Motor Trend, of the tsx vs. c230 vs. saab9-3? it came out july of 2003, and the mercedes came out on top.

however, motor trend's comaparison was highly unscientific compared to C/D. i was wondering what yall think about it.

and btw, road and track was never on the top of my car magazine list. i was impressed when they made their layout larger, but they still lack the visual oopmh and the technical expertise of C/D. so that RT comparison in which the legacy beat the tsx doesnt hold much water for me, esp when considering the top magazine C/D gave huge props to the TSX. and why does RT tend to always disagree with its sister publication, C/D? just to be different is what i think! just my
Old 09-18-2004, 01:33 AM
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Ok, I've got scans of Road&Track comparo between the TSX&LegacyGT. If anyone would be so kind as to host them for me, I'll send them right over
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I don't know if anyone else saw it, but today on SpikeTV, Car and Driver TV aired the episode with the $30k Sporty Sedan comparo. It was pretty brief, but the images were great to watch. Anyone get it on a hostable format?
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I don't know if anyone else saw it, but today on SpikeTV, Car and Driver TV aired the episode with the $30k Sporty Sedan comparo. It was pretty brief, but the images were great to watch. Anyone get it on a hostable format?
I saw it too but I was at my parent's house otherwise I would have recorded it on my PC. Good show and I like how they reviewed the NSX at the end. I don't think I've seen an NSX being reviewed since the 90's.
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Originally Posted by Dr. T
Hi, guys--I'm new to the forum.
I spent the last few days test driving the Subaru Outback wagon, thinking it would be nice to have a more flexible vehicle than a sedan. I drove 2 XTs (turbo) and one base 4-cylinder. The turbo is fast, no doubt. But the overall feel is a much looser car: less steering feel, some surge of the turbo, more body roll. Then I went back and drove the TSX again that I loved so much when I first drove one about 6 months ago. It was instant love again!
I also test drove a TL a couple of months back. Also lots of power, but the steering felt more remote, the car in general felt like a much bigger car, like my 91 Legend.
Bottom line: I finally bought a TSX, due in at the dealer tomorrow. PWP, which I think is very classy.
I've been following the TSX since its first appearance at the San Jose CA auto show. The TSX is much more fun to drive than the Audi, the G35, and even the 3-series, IMHO. I love it. Did I already say that?

Welcome to the forum.

I'm interested to know how you would compare your Legend to the TSX in terms of power and fun to drive factor and anything else you would care to mention when you get your car.

I'm currently driving a gold 91 Legend (amazing condition). My family is the original owner of the car. More than likely, I will end up buying an 05 TSX, making the same transition as you.
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The IS, G35, 3 series, CTS, and the A4 (although in the test) are all to expensive to compete in the Sub $30,000. The A4 would be a sweet car, but you really need to spend a lot more money. They said that you can't buy a 3 series for $30,000 any more, the same applies for the A4.
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I just got my Road and Track and the TSX lost to the Legacy 1 on 1. No domination by either at this point. Both good cars/
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thats my baby!!!!!! GO TSX!!!!!!!!
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C & D Names TSX Most Sustainable Sports Sedan

So not only is the TSX one of Car & Driver's Top 10 for 2004, but they just named it their #1 Most Sustainable Sports Sedan. Here is the link:

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8550

Don't mind if I do.
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for the most part.

Nice to see the weblink for it though.
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Wow! Legacy 0-60 in 5.7!

Clutch, who didn't RTFA...
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
Wow! Legacy 0-60 in 5.7!
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