TL vs TSX engine
02-26-2004, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by ClutchPerformer
And a belt doesn't imply an "infinite" number of teeth. If it did, you'd get an infinite gear reduction and you'd break something. To my knowledge, this only happens with toroidal CVTs (which the Audi is not), but I still don't quite understand how.
And a belt doesn't imply an "infinite" number of teeth. If it did, you'd get an infinite gear reduction and you'd break something. To my knowledge, this only happens with toroidal CVTs (which the Audi is not), but I still don't quite understand how.
I don't see what practical effect the number of teeth in gears has on efficiency. Besides, in an MT car the actual gears are helical, while I don't think an AT has helical gears (but I could be wrong) as I don't see how they would dynamically mesh.
02-26-2004, 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by rb1
Not what I meant.....You were suggesting that lots of teeth = lots of inefficiency and I was just using this as an analogy.
Not what I meant.....You were suggesting that lots of teeth = lots of inefficiency and I was just using this as an analogy.
....I don't see what practical effect the number of teeth in gears has on efficiency. Besides, in an MT car the actual gears are helical, while I don't think an AT has helical gears (but I could be wrong) as I don't see how they would dynamically mesh.
Auto gears are also helical, otherwise they'd be noisy like reverse gears.
02-26-2004, 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by ClutchPerformer
There's friction (fluid and sliding) when gear teeth mesh. The more teeth mesh per unit time, the more friction, and the more energy lost.
Auto gears are also helical, otherwise they'd be noisy like reverse gears.
There's friction (fluid and sliding) when gear teeth mesh. The more teeth mesh per unit time, the more friction, and the more energy lost.
Auto gears are also helical, otherwise they'd be noisy like reverse gears.
If 1% or less of the AT's 5% inefficiency contribution is the result of the gears themselves (e.g. it's 1% the gears and 4% the torque converted), then this side-topic is a rather moot point.
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