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honduh chicken 07-30-2007 02:55 PM

So it's 2007, why can't a car company figure out how to intigrate an ipod? I did.
 
F that stupid little jack in the arm rest. This is 2007, half the world carries ipods.. Get with it.


I took matters into my own hands.

http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod10.JPG
http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod9.JPG
http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod8.JPG

drunkenbuda 07-30-2007 03:11 PM

dude, show me how to do that shit.

CarbonGray Earl 07-30-2007 03:16 PM

Share friend, please share.

lcrazyaznl 07-30-2007 03:27 PM

Awesome man, but man wheres the info?

evo_to_tsx 07-30-2007 03:29 PM

you guys see that JIO logo on the first pic? If i remember correctly, that is the interface for an ipod docking station with built in media center... if I am assuming the right thing, this person probably bought that specific ipod docking station and connected to dom's tv video source and tapped it into the navi screen

evo_to_tsx 07-30-2007 03:34 PM

in particular, this can be a solution:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ipo...without-wi-fi/

honduh chicken 07-30-2007 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by evo_to_tsx
you guys see that JIO logo on the first pic? If i remember correctly, that is the interface for an ipod docking station with built in media center... if I am assuming the right thing, this person probably bought that specific ipod docking station and connected to dom's tv video source and tapped it into the navi screen

exactly. :) How hard was that? Honda can't do that why? Would I pay $300 for a deal installed option like this, damn right I would have.

Alexander. 07-30-2007 04:20 PM

Can we get a writeup please?

honduh chicken 07-30-2007 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by AccessPhoto.com
Can we get a writeup please?

Working on it. Trying to make revisions to make it sleeker, you guys will be the first to know when it's done!

evo_to_tsx 07-30-2007 04:44 PM

thanks for the effort honduh chicken, that would make life a lot easier for a lot of folks on here.. I would assume that the hard(er) part of this installation would be tapping in for the power source for the docking station, and connection the audio out directly to the headunit
the video source should be a direct connection from the docking station to dom's unit via RCA

Tsx536 07-30-2007 04:48 PM

Yeah, that's nice man. I thought about doing the same thing for awhile. I ended up realizing that I don't use video enough, so I stuck with my Pioneer Ipod interface. Maybe I can start that project back up though.

I'm still looking for a dock that has a RF remote instead of infrared, so that I can hide the Ipod and dock. That way I don't have to hide it or take it out when I park.

Does yours have an Infrared remote?

honduh chicken 07-30-2007 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Tsx536
Yeah, that's nice man. I thought about doing the same thing for awhile. I ended up realizing that I don't use video enough, so I stuck with my Pioneer Ipod interface. Maybe I can start that project back up though.

I'm still looking for a dock that has a RF remote instead of infrared, so that I can hide the Ipod and dock. That way I don't have to hide it or take it out when I park.

Does yours have an Infrared remote?


No infrared remote, however DLO has a NEW dock out that does use RF, and has video output, unfortunately the menu's and song info isn't outputed all the song navigation is output to a display built into the remote that's about the size of an ipod go figure. lol.

I don't ever plan on using video for anything other than listing artists, playlists, songs etc, plus you get nice looking album art while the song's playing. The DLO interface is really smooth and you can change the colors, it's MUCH nicer than the OE Honda navi interface. I wonder why they didn't have a graphic designer go to town on it first? Windows 3.1 had a smoother GUI than honda's navi system.

Toothman 07-30-2007 05:55 PM

thats awesome, real nice setup man

does putting a setup like this in void any type of dealer warranty?

DigiDrew818 07-30-2007 06:40 PM

It is touch screen controlled or are you using the DLO remote control and an IR blaster?

Tsx536 07-30-2007 08:06 PM

^^ I'm thinking it does not support touch screen. You probably also need to be able to point the remote directly at the dock. My guess is that there is no IR blaster for it since the kit was probably made for home use.

popdakebin 08-09-2007 05:04 AM

Is there an update on this thread yet?? I wanna do it. How much you think it will cost for the parts? and which parts we need?

rza49311 08-09-2007 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by DigiDrew818
It is touch screen controlled or are you using the DLO remote control and an IR blaster?

Fairly certain its remote control, no one has been able to use the factory touch screen for any application, however, some guys are trying to figure it out. There's an article in the audio/video section.

InTerSX 08-09-2007 09:41 PM

Props for putting all the pieces together. This is exactly what I have been waiting for to do something about Ipod integration.

I don't think we will be seeing touch screen integration for a while guys. It will take a lot more hardware to integrate with that. Like a computer running itunes on it that can integrate with the touch screen. (or similar solution - It will just take custom hardware and software to interpret touchscreen and interface with it, which is what they are working on.)

RogerPodacter 08-28-2007 10:25 PM

back when i first got my tsx i installed a compute rin the trunk displayed on the navi screen. my next goal was to integrate touch screen functions. but soon learned that the tsx touch screen is only a "grid" touch screen with only about 100-200 squares that register the push. so it would be pretty limited as an interface for mouse/pc. so i used a small touch pad and IR remote credit card sized.

popdakebin 09-05-2007 02:38 AM

I'm guessing this does not allow steering wheel controls to work either.

BonzoAPD 09-06-2007 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by honduh chicken
No infrared remote, however DLO has a NEW dock out that does use RF, and has video output, unfortunately the menu's and song info isn't outputed all the song navigation is output to a display built into the remote that's about the size of an ipod go figure. lol.

I don't ever plan on using video for anything other than listing artists, playlists, songs etc, plus you get nice looking album art while the song's playing. The DLO interface is really smooth and you can change the colors, it's MUCH nicer than the OE Honda navi interface. I wonder why they didn't have a graphic designer go to town on it first? Windows 3.1 had a smoother GUI than honda's navi system.

are you any closer to posting the how to?

honduh chicken 09-06-2007 11:16 AM

working on the writeup right now. Should have it done today or tomorrow.

hyunk24a2 09-06-2007 11:31 AM

can you choose the song using the steering wheel controls?

rza49311 09-06-2007 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by hyunk24a2
can you choose the song using the steering wheel controls?

i've been looking at the DLO unit a for little bit now and forgot about this thread. I think i'm going to wait and see if they are going to support the new ipod touch.

But to answer your question, I don't believe so but OP can confirm.

TommySalami 09-06-2007 04:36 PM

Nice, we ordered the acura ipod link with the car and have been waiting 3 months + for the new version to come out so we can have it

honduh chicken 09-06-2007 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by honduh chicken
F that stupid little jack in the arm rest. This is 2007, half the world carries ipods.. Get with it.


I took matters into my own hands.

http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod10.JPG
http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod9.JPG
http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod8.JPG

Here is the write up! Enjoy!

http://www.giuffre.com/personal/ipod_tsx/tsx_ipod.pdf (right click, save as)

makurz 09-06-2007 08:51 PM

Honduh Chicken,

GREAT JOB! :thumbsup: It was well worth the wait. The instructions are very clear and I am looking forward to do this on my newly dealer e-traded '08 TSX in a couple weeks

Mike

makurz 09-06-2007 10:28 PM

After-reading the pdf...The only thing that caught my eye (on page 10) is that you mention the HomeDock uses RF, when it actually uses IR.

honduh chicken 09-06-2007 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by makurz
After-reading the pdf...The only thing that caught my eye (on page 10) is that you mention the HomeDock uses RF, when it actually uses IR.


Good catch, I'll fix that type tomorrow. Thanks! :thumbsup:

honduh chicken 09-07-2007 11:22 AM

Error fixed.

JWiner 09-07-2007 02:18 PM

That is the most impressive right up I have ever seen for anything - car related and not. You should work for Nasa.

I know I would break something expensive if I actually tried it though. You are spot-on with the message to Honda. Why not???

wackura 09-07-2007 02:59 PM

They need to come up with a more universal way to control mass storage mp3 players. I prefer the Zune to the iPod, and would hate for Honda to force my hand when choosing between mp3 players. The iPod is proprietary to Apple and I'm glad my car doesn't have a metaphorical seat reserved for Steve Jobs. Until there are more choices I can't say I mind the lack of any mp3 player support.

On the other hand the CD player should be able to read mp3 CDs. They are definately behind on that one. If you could load 6 mp3 CDs that would make for a whole lot of music without the need to carry around a seperate music device all the time.

honduh chicken 09-07-2007 05:07 PM

You CAN use a zune! Just make sure you get a dock that pushes out song info and navigation menu's!

wackura 09-07-2007 06:38 PM

Oh, sure, I mean to say that I don't expect Honda to bend over backwards to connect with a proprietary device although some automakers will.

I hate Apple because they insist that everybody conform to their minimalist ethic and aesthetic. They are not friends of individuality.

smazzurco 10-18-2007 02:43 PM

i tried downloading the pdf and it says page not found or something. Could anyone that has it either email it to me @ smazzurco@dwsinc.net or rehost it?

zguy95135 10-18-2007 03:08 PM

Damn it, the pics arent working for me.

smazzurco 10-19-2007 09:34 AM

i tried again this morning, its working now, downloading as we speak

TommySalami 10-19-2007 03:47 PM

How did you push the cable from the trunk to the dash without removing anything in between them? What did you do to make the cable go straight there?

MeHoo 10-20-2007 09:36 PM

Holy hell thats a whole lot of messing around to get a little more functionality than a DICE or usaspec unit.. except no touchscreen control?

Not for me, but i can't complain on the write-up. Great work on the explanation.

I've still yet to see a feature list of sorts to explain exactly what this gives you.. From the images i gather its remote control based [ew], but plays video as well as music, and includes all menus needed to navigate properly.. am i missing anything? Since i don't know for sure all that follows is based on assumption.

When i got my TSX i thought i'd use something like this, but in all reality i just plug in my ipod to my usaspec and hit skip a few times til i see a song i like. I don't use video at all, and i surely wouldn't while driving, so thats no use to me.. the only thing i lack is the song title displayed, which can be achieved by using a dice unit.

I guess the question is.. is this all really worth it to play videos? You lose the touchscreen [assumed] and you cant watch videos while driving anyways [illegal if in view of driver at least in michigan - not to mention dangerous], and i'd surely lose the remote...

Looking at all of this i can't help but think im missing a huge part of the story here.

Like i said, great write-up though. and PDF is so much more appreciated than a 50 page forum thread with randomly missing photo links. I especially enjoyed the comment about if honda doesn't think people want this, you would send them the pdf's server logs.. just out of curiosity, whats it up to already?

idelgado782 10-21-2007 08:54 PM

Will this work on a 2005 TSX?

kyotousa 10-21-2007 09:07 PM

I am officially sad that I didn't get stock Navi for TSX...lol

kyotousa 10-21-2007 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by idelgado782
Will this work on a 2005 TSX?

I am sure it would...Dom's DVD player mod has been there forever.

xenonhid 10-21-2007 09:29 PM

Nice write up Honduh Chicken, I love the use of humor throughout the writeup! Funny stuff!

TommySalami 10-21-2007 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by xenonhid
Nice write up Honduh Chicken, I love the use of humor throughout the writeup! Funny stuff!

CAREFUL JACKASS! lol

CCColtsicehockey 10-22-2007 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by kyotousa
I am officially sad that I didn't get stock Navi for TSX...lol

:werd: I am tempted to buy one off ebay and not wire it for navi and just use it for the screen for this unless I do a car pc I have been planing slowly for the last year.

CCColtsicehockey 10-22-2007 06:51 AM

amazing write up

TommySalami 10-22-2007 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
:werd: I am tempted to buy one off ebay and not wire it for navi and just use it for the screen for this unless I do a car pc I have been planing slowly for the last year.

If you get it, navi is worth it. I mean, if you're already gonna go thru the effort of putting it in, do it right, right?

honduh chicken 10-26-2007 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by MeHoo
I especially enjoyed the comment about if honda doesn't think people want this, you would send them the pdf's server logs.. just out of curiosity, whats it up to already?

Sept 1 - current = 2,703 downloads (I should put google ads on the download page) :P

honduh chicken 10-26-2007 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by MeHoo
Holy hell thats a whole lot of messing around to get a little more functionality than a DICE or usaspec unit.. except no touchscreen control?

Not for me, but i can't complain on the write-up. Great work on the explanation.

I've still yet to see a feature list of sorts to explain exactly what this gives you.. From the images i gather its remote control based [ew], but plays video as well as music, and includes all menus needed to navigate properly.. am i missing anything? Since i don't know for sure all that follows is based on assumption.

When i got my TSX i thought i'd use something like this, but in all reality i just plug in my ipod to my usaspec and hit skip a few times til i see a song i like. I don't use video at all, and i surely wouldn't while driving, so thats no use to me.. the only thing i lack is the song title displayed, which can be achieved by using a dice unit.

I guess the question is.. is this all really worth it to play videos? You lose the touchscreen [assumed] and you cant watch videos while driving anyways [illegal if in view of driver at least in michigan - not to mention dangerous], and i'd surely lose the remote...

Looking at all of this i can't help but think im missing a huge part of the story here.

Like i said, great write-up though. and PDF is so much more appreciated than a 50 page forum thread with randomly missing photo links. I especially enjoyed the comment about if honda doesn't think people want this, you would send them the pdf's server logs.. just out of curiosity, whats it up to already?

Here's what you get. You get a charging dock in your storage tray that you can slide your ipod into. It charges it and allows you to see (and navigate) all of your artists, songs, albums, etc in a nice smooth graphical interface much like you would sitting in front of your computer. You do NOT lose the touch screen, it still functions 100% for all oem operations, except when you switch the screen into "ipod" mode, you can't use the touchscreen to navigate your ipod, only the IR remote.

I didn't do it to be able to watch videos (allthough it was nice to play movies on a long road trip with the kids recently) I got it because I didn't like plugging my ipod into the arm rest and having 2 cables sticking out, trying to balance my ipod somewhere or stick it in the cup holder not to mention it's really hard to see the tiny ipod screen and use the sensitive click wheel to find an album or song while you're driving. I'm a gadget junkie so I also like the attention I get from people when they find out what I'm doing (playing songs from the ipod on the navi screen) Usually people are jelous when they are holding their ipod in their hands while they drive, or worse yet, they have to scan through the entire library one song at a time and get no text on the display.

honduh chicken 10-26-2007 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by TommySalami
How did you push the cable from the trunk to the dash without removing anything in between them? What did you do to make the cable go straight there?


it was tricky, but I did it. I started in the trunk, pushed it behind the rear passenger seat bolster, then down under the door sils (pushed it in with a small socket extension) then under the B pillar plastic, then up the kick panel, then under the glove box, into the rear of the center console.

TommySalami 10-26-2007 02:41 PM

And it stayed straight? hm
Yeah I'm definitely doin this. Maybe not unitl a month or two, but definitely doin it, and ill take pics as i install

MeHoo 10-27-2007 12:36 PM

So you did this mainly because you didnt want to use AUX..

To each his own, but IMO you gain barely anything compared to those of us with a dice/usaspec unit.. we can use touchscreen on oem stuff, and use the steering wheel controls or dash controls to change songs, etc [thats a big plus].. we cant watch videos, but we don't need a remote [thats another huge plus]. We can add a dock interface easily, and we can get much cheaper ones because we dont need to to pass any data through, just act as a dock.

On main question i think i can't figure out on my own.. if you get an incoming call on the bluetooth link, does it pause your music still? Since it doesnt seem as though the car controls work [hence the remote], then i am not sure if the car can pause the ipod.

Would this still work fine with a backup camera addon or does it interfere?

As i said before, great writeup though, not trying to take away from what you did, just trying to understand it more.

TommySalami 10-27-2007 05:34 PM

Don't you sacrifice xm with the ipod things that use the screen? I thought you did..

MeHoo 10-28-2007 12:15 PM

The screen does nothing on the audio page anyways, so no.. its not like you're missing anything. And my usaspec unit keeps xm in case i ever want to waste the money on it. DICE does not keep xm but it does allow text on screen.

The biggest deal with those two options is using the dash/steering controls as opposed to a remote you have to fumble to find. It seems this method adds in screen functionality, but not touch. Since i never have specific playlists i want to play, i just plug in and go and skip songs. Its not exactly difficult to grab the ipod and quickly change genre's though if needed.. just as difficult as watching a navi screen as it is to watch the ipod screen, and dangerous.

TommySalami 10-28-2007 12:44 PM

Oh, I don't care about the steering wheel controls, I was thinking of just putting velcro on the remote and putting that inside the cup holder door, idk. What I want is something that'll let me control MORE than just song up or song down. I can reach for my iPod and do that right now without looking.


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