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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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side pillars are huge blind spots..

ON THE TSX.....

yesterday i came close to hitting a pedestrian because the side pillars were soo friggin big. On other several occasions it even blocked cars at a 4 way stop signs.

I guess i have to be more cautious when driving this car...
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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be careful
big blindspots from inside TSX
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Move your head.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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i have the same problem with my 3.2 tl, on a few occasions, when im not careful enough ive pulled out into intersections to the surpise of seeing a car speeding my way
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Just move your head. I have the same problems.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Wow, alot of people don't know how to drive!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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hmm I have never had these issues. side pillars look average size to me. I guess its because when I drive I do move and turn my head more than a lot of people to check my surroundings.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Blind spots can be reduced by moving your head and/or body to see around them. Just turning your head or glancing around doesn't really do much. The blind spots aren't so big if you know how to get around them.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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One of the things that comes with standard side-curtain airbags. I'll take the airbags and move my head to see around the blind spot, thank you.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Move your head... a lot.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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good neck excercise
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ck123
ON THE TSX.....

yesterday i came close to hitting a pedestrian because the side pillars were soo friggin big. On other several occasions it even blocked cars at a 4 way stop signs.

I guess i have to be more cautious when driving this car...
guess you just need to learn to drive maybe
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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I have to agree, the pillars are HUGE. And not only that, they are just at the right spot to block what you need to see as youre going around a turn. Has nothing to do with driving skill, there is definately a huge blind spot. I cringe everytime i go around a corner and have to choose whether to watch in front of me, or move my head practically sticking out the side window to see around the bend. to whoever designed that one...
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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this happened to me last week. I was behind a couple of bikers and we were going through a left turn light. the guy on the right took off way ahead, but the guy on the left was moving slow. someone was talking to me in the back seat. because of the corner the guy on the bike was leaning to the left and I couldn't see him at all. my g/f was yelling at me because I was getting too close to him.

there are alot of view blockers in the tsx. I kind of miss my civic coupe in this regard. there wasn't anything I couldn't see and I didn't have to move around or turn my head. IMO you shouldn't have to move your body to see what's going on around you. it's dangerous for the driver to be moving around while driving.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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One of the things that comes with standard side-curtain airbags. I'll take the airbags and move my head to see around the blind spot, thank you.
Amen!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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A simple question. How does a bad driver know he's (or she's) a bad driver?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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I've had this problem a few times! But I've gotten used to it. Like a few of the other people said, just move your head a little. You eventually get immune to it. But it can be aggravating!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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C'mon... it's really not that bad. I've driven a lot of cars with a lot worse visibility than the TSX.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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C'mon... it's really not that bad. I've driven a lot of cars with a lot worse visibility than the TSX.
I really think the TSX is one of the easiest cars to drive. Mind you I have only driven the car for only two weeks and its a sinch. The RSX I had before had really bad blind spots.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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you'll need to adjust the side rearview mirrors to accomodate the rear pillars (push the mirrors as far out as possible before losing sight the side of your car). that, and you'll have to check your blind spots by looking back, left/right, etc. (which you should be doing anyways).
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slowTSX
I really think the TSX is one of the easiest cars to drive. Mind you I have only driven the car for only two weeks and its a sinch. The RSX I had before had really bad blind spots.
you never drove a civic before?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Try driving one of the new Civic, the side pillars are really big due to the shallow slope of the front window. But you just have to look around it. You get used to it.

Originally Posted by mar21182
C'mon... it's really not that bad. I've driven a lot of cars with a lot worse visibility than the TSX.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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this should help with your bindspot problem

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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All new cars with side curtain airbags are a bitch when it comes to visibility on turns. Can't get around it unless you move your head. Try sitting in a Chrysler 300. You'll laugh at the way they designed that car. You can't see shit!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bryan02TLS
i have the same problem with my 3.2 tl, on a few occasions, when im not careful enough ive pulled out into intersections to the surpise of seeing a car speeding my way
i had something similar happen to me, except the car coming my way was a cop! luckily, he just glared at me and didn't pull me over...
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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The TSX is not especially easy to see out of unfortunately. Those who claim to not have a problem would probably be overwhelmed in a car that has excellent visibility
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Doesn't bother me. I've been driving a loaner TSX until mine comes in and I didn't even notice until y'all mentioned it here.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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The TSX is not especially easy to see out of unfortunately. Those who claim to not have a problem would probably be overwhelmed in a car that has excellent visibility
I came from a G2 integra... that car was basically all glass and had low doors and hatch lid. It was like a solarium. The TSX isn't THAT bad, IMO... even though the G2 was freakish for its amount of outward visibility.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by curls
I came from a G2 integra... that car was basically all glass and had low doors and hatch lid. It was like a solarium. The TSX isn't THAT bad, IMO... even though the G2 was freakish for its amount of outward visibility.


Same with Legends, 1st gen TL's and Vigors.

Late 80's Accords and Preludes took visibility to an extreme
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
this should help with your bindspot problem

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Seriously... I found it is blocking my eye sight when checking the blind spot.... move your head more, or put a fish-eye lens on your side mirror to get a better view to your blind spot.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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I've not noticed any problems w/ blindspots from the A-pillars. My only complaint is the side mirrors are smallish. They make it a little more difficult to merge into traffic and back into parking spaces than I'm used to. Maybe certain seat positions make the pillars more of a problem. I have mine positioned about midway in the track (i think).
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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If you guys are talking about the A-pillars, you might as well get used to it because this will become the trend on cars as side curtain airbags become more and more prevalent. It's kind of hard to stuff all that material in the A-pillar without making it a little wider.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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maybe if you are having trouble seeing you should get a set of these

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
this should help with your bindspot problem



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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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You know what gives me a blind spot in the TSX



















NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!

just ridiculous
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
You know what gives me a blind spot in the TSX



















NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!

just ridiculous
are you sure your headrests dont give you blind spots man. you know they are so big.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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my steering wheel gives me blind spots. I have a tough time looking over it.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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This particular blind spot is not just noticeable because of its size, but also its location. Certain kinds of left turns are especially tricky, especially in an area that has a high concentration of pedestrians--such as a dense urban area or one that is curvy and narrow.

I tend to sit far away from the pedals and steering wheel, and in a very upright position--perhaps that is why I notice it more than some of you. A driver that sits really close may not have as much an issue. Or if your driving posture involves leaning to one side you might not notice this as much.

Yes I can deal with it by moving my torso so I can see around the pillar, but that really isn't acceptible, and it is not really the norm for cars with side curtain airbags. Honda needs to do a little work on their ergonomics. With any luck, this might be better in a future evolution of the car.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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I agree that the side pillars do give you a blind spot to the left. My seat is just the "right" distance back to make this a PITA if I need to give a quick look to the left when changing lanes. I had to get used to setting my drivers side mirror a little differently and make sure I lean forward a bit to take a peek before I go ahead with the lane change.
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