Rebadging Illegal?
06-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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Rebadging Illegal?
Ok so i did a search and found all these rants and raves about rebadging and debadging and all that. But unless I missed something, rebadging as being illegal has never been brought up? Does anyone know if it is?? Just wondering. Evin though I've already done it. And if it is illegal, that won't stop me 
06-30-2005, 03:33 PM
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Oh i was thinkin more along the lines of, the car doesnt "appear" to be the same as registered, u know, like if you were to get pulled over and the registration says acura tsx and then my car says honda euro r......u know what i mean
06-30-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyHonda
Oh i was thinkin more along the lines of, the car doesnt "appear" to be the same as registered, u know, like if you were to get pulled over and the registration says acura tsx and then my car says honda euro r......u know what i mean
Then tell the cop to check the VIN then 
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if a cop told you that was a violation, tell him to shove the ticket up his ass as smell it. same thing to do if u ever get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.... fucking cunts with nothing better to do with thier time to actually write people up for those 2 reasons.
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A friend of mine had a Daihatsu Charade, white, totally debadged, with white Momos, and paper plates - and he got a parking ticket made out to "unknown white car".
But it had his VIN on it.
As long as you got a VIN, you are legal.
By the way, what dark Orwellian world are you trying to drag us into, anyway?
But it had his VIN on it.
As long as you got a VIN, you are legal.
By the way, what dark Orwellian world are you trying to drag us into, anyway?
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06-30-2005, 03:54 PM
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Most cops can't tell a Honda from a Ford (no offense to any law enforcement officers that are members- I know that you can!) :cop: It's Blue Car, Red convertible, Black Car with 2 doors, Green Truck....
At the scene of an accident that I responded to (not involved in, just a witness), the officer asked me what happened (since I was caring for the injured driver), I told him that she (driver) had hit her head on the B pillar after the impact. He got all snotty with me because he did not know what a b pillar was (and I made him look bad)
At the scene of an accident that I responded to (not involved in, just a witness), the officer asked me what happened (since I was caring for the injured driver), I told him that she (driver) had hit her head on the B pillar after the impact. He got all snotty with me because he did not know what a b pillar was (and I made him look bad)
06-30-2005, 03:56 PM
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if a cop told you that was a violation, tell him to shove the ticket up his ass as smell it. same thing to do if u ever get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.... fucking cunts with nothing better to do with thier time to actually write people up for those 2 reasons.
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Originally Posted by 97AcuraCL
if a cop told you that was a violation, tell him to shove the ticket up his ass as smell it. same thing to do if u ever get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.... fucking cunts with nothing better to do with thier time to actually write people up for those 2 reasons.
From where I am, cops definitely can (and SHOULD) ticket people not wearing seatbelt.
Seat belts do save lives
maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
06-30-2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elduderino
A friend of mine had a Daihatsu Charade, white, totally debadged, with white Momos, and paper plates - and he got a parking ticket made out to "unknown white car".
But it had his VIN on it.
As long as you got a VIN, you are legal.
By the way, what dark Orwellian world are you trying to drag us into, anyway?
But it had his VIN on it.
As long as you got a VIN, you are legal.
By the way, what dark Orwellian world are you trying to drag us into, anyway?
Actually now that i think about it, I did get a parking ticket once, and it said on the ticket
Violation: "Street Cleaning"
Make: Honda
Model: Euro R
i was goin to keep it and laminate it hahabut then my wife threw it away
but still doesnt it have any implications that im "altering" the vehicles "identity"
06-30-2005, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyHonda
Actually now that i think about it, I did get a parking ticket once, and it said on the ticket
Violation: "Street Cleaning"
Make: Honda
Model: Euro R
i was goin to keep it and laminate it haha
but then my wife threw it away
Violation: "Street Cleaning"
Make: Honda
Model: Euro R
i was goin to keep it and laminate it hahabut then my wife threw it away
06-30-2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
From you original thinking, maybe you could have misputed the ticket as your car is NOT a Honda Euro R!
haha thats a pretty good idea
06-30-2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Seat belts do save lives maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
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Originally Posted by xizor
its the darwinian system, let it go. if people will continue to stick fingers in eletrical sockets, ride their bikes off the roof, etc., then leave them to their own devices.
... as long as he doesn't cannon ball into my windshield
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Seat belts do save lives
maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield 
06-30-2005, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyHonda
but still doesnt it have any implications that im "altering" the vehicles "identity"
Cop (writing ticket): WTF is that? BMW? Lexus? Supra? My head hurts!!!
06-30-2005, 05:56 PM
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What about the instance where someone is the witness to a crime, and the get-away car is identified by witnesses as a "Honda Accord", since it was rebadged as such. In the US that would make a huge difference, as there are 1,248,972,389,471,298,472,894,729,847 Accords and ~80,000 TSXs. Just a thought.
06-30-2005, 07:39 PM
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the thread title. The car's description in a crime or something of that sort. That could be used a valid reason for some sort of anti-rebadging legislation. Really, though, I guess I don't get the whole rebadging thing anyway. I mean, your car's not <insert name of replacement badge here>, it will never BE <insert name of replacement badge>, so exactly who are you fooling? Just my opinion...I could be wrong.
06-30-2005, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Seat belt is not mandatory in your area?!?
From where I am, cops definitely can (and SHOULD) ticket people not wearing seatbelt.
Seat belts do save lives maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
From where I am, cops definitely can (and SHOULD) ticket people not wearing seatbelt.
Seat belts do save lives
maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
06-30-2005, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xizor
its the darwinian system, let it go. if people will continue to stick fingers in eletrical sockets, ride their bikes off the roof, etc., then leave them to their own devices.
Unfortunately, they don't only inflict "damage" upon themselves. Most insurance companies do not cover you in a wreck if you were not wearing a seatbelt, thus when a@@hole without seatbelt crashes into me, I have to SUE him to repair my car since his insurance does not cover the wreck. I would love to find out that I am wrong, but I am pretty sure this is the case.
ALSO,
05_TSX_GP, what do you do for a living/job? So quick to yell at the boxer in the ring, so afraid to jump in...
06-30-2005, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 97AcuraCL
if a cop told you that was a violation, tell him to shove the ticket up his ass as smell it. same thing to do if u ever get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.... fucking cunts with nothing better to do with thier time to actually write people up for those 2 reasons.
retard
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Unfortunately, they don't only inflict "damage" upon themselves. Most insurance companies do not cover you in a wreck if you were not wearing a seatbelt, thus when a@@hole without seatbelt crashes into me, I have to SUE him to repair my car since his insurance does not cover the wreck. I would love to find out that I am wrong, but I am pretty sure this is the case.
ALSO,
05_TSX_GP, what do you do for a living/job? So quick to yell at the boxer in the ring, so afraid to jump in...
ALSO,
05_TSX_GP, what do you do for a living/job? So quick to yell at the boxer in the ring, so afraid to jump in...
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Seat belt is not mandatory in your area?!?
From where I am, cops definitely can (and SHOULD) ticket people not wearing seatbelt.
Seat belts do save lives maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield
From where I am, cops definitely can (and SHOULD) ticket people not wearing seatbelt.
Seat belts do save lives
maybe you should considering wearing yours 97AcuraCL, unless you wanna play human cannon ball through your windshield why the hell would you NOT wear your seat belt? why should have to tell you to wear one?
seems like common sence to me. i never drive any car or ride as a passenger without my seatbelt. in fact i forget the fact i have it on its such a habit to buckle up every time i get in. its like turning the key its part of the driving process.
unfortunatly people who dont wear one end up eating some windshield and realise the hard way "maybe if i had my seat belt on my face wouldnt look like a pit bull"
oh well darwin will weed them out eventually.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Unfortunately, they don't only inflict "damage" upon themselves. Most insurance companies do not cover you in a wreck if you were not wearing a seatbelt, thus when a@@hole without seatbelt crashes into me, I have to SUE him to repair my car since his insurance does not cover the wreck. I would love to find out that I am wrong, but I am pretty sure this is the case.
ALSO,
05_TSX_GP, what do you do for a living/job? So quick to yell at the boxer in the ring, so afraid to jump in...
ALSO,
05_TSX_GP, what do you do for a living/job? So quick to yell at the boxer in the ring, so afraid to jump in...
im in insurance and i have never heard that, however what i know about some big name companies (and i cant name any names) it wouldnt suprise me if they wouldnt pay a claim because of this. it all depends on the company. if your insured under this company i would look elsewhere! however if this company did deny a claim and you were the victom it wouldnt be your battle to fight. your insurance company would to go arbitration with the other guys company or the other guy himself and seek restitution. if you couldnt get it settled there you could go to the insurance commissioner in your state.
i guarentee you that if you say the words "insurance commissioner" any insurance company will start caughing up money.
you have the right to be compensated. be it from the insurance company or if the guy didnt have any insurance he has to pay. or if that doesnt work your insurance company should pay the claim under uninsured motorest coverage as long as you elected to buy it.
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I get aggervated when I see a debagded car that comes with different engines. For example, a BMW 3 series or Mercedes S class debagded makes me feel like they must have bought the cheaper engine, but don't want you to know.
As far as being illegal, does anybody know of any horror stories of a BMW 325 being rebadged as a 330 for resale? or any other crap like that?
As far as being illegal, does anybody know of any horror stories of a BMW 325 being rebadged as a 330 for resale? or any other crap like that?
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Originally Posted by Winterwaves
That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the thread title. The car's description in a crime or something of that sort. That could be used a valid reason for some sort of anti-rebadging legislation. Really, though, I guess I don't get the whole rebadging thing anyway. I mean, your car's not <insert name of replacement badge here>, it will never BE <insert name of replacement badge>, so exactly who are you fooling? Just my opinion...I could be wrong.
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In the case of a crime with your car being identified, I think it would only be illegal if you replaced the badges, since this might be concidered tampering with evidence. If you were to resell the car, it would only be illegal if you sold it under false pretenses.
I say debadge whatever you want. Just don't rebadge it as a higher model cause I think that's stupid.
I say debadge whatever you want. Just don't rebadge it as a higher model cause I think that's stupid.
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I am neither a boxing fan, nor a boxer
Sorry 05_TSX-GP... That was meant for 97AcuraCL!! Ma Bad.
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Originally Posted by NightShredder
People don't fly through windshields anymore because of the shatterproof glass coating that is used on the inside of the window. People just get crushed into their windshield and break bones, crush their skulls and stuff. I guess he would be pancaking himself not cannon balling.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Sorry 05_TSX-GP... That was meant for 97AcuraCL!! Ma Bad.
I was overseas for a week with no 'net access, good to have a post to reply to upon my return
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
oh no worry... good thing I didn't go into :flaming: mode
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The main reason that it is illegal to rebadge the car is because of how it is registered. It is along the same lines of having your car repainted a different color. If your car is repainted and you don't notify the DMV, you can get a ticket, because when the VIN is decoded it will say something different. Also now you are leaving yourself a reason to get pulled over. The cops might think its a stolen car, or that the plates on it were stolen. Its alot more trouble than what its worth. If you are gonna rebadge it, i would think that you might have to re-register it.
And as far as pancaking against the windshield, that is grossly innaccurate. I have had the unpleasant job of reconstructing many accidents where drivers/passengers (front and rear) that have been enjected through the windshield. Wearing a seatbelt definately increases ones chance of surviving an auto accident, but doesnt guarantee anything.....
And as far as pancaking against the windshield, that is grossly innaccurate. I have had the unpleasant job of reconstructing many accidents where drivers/passengers (front and rear) that have been enjected through the windshield. Wearing a seatbelt definately increases ones chance of surviving an auto accident, but doesnt guarantee anything.....
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Originally Posted by TSX CSI
The main reason that it is illegal to rebadge the car is because of how it is registered. It is along the same lines of having your car repainted a different color. If your car is repainted and you don't notify the DMV, you can get a ticket, because when the VIN is decoded it will say something different. Also now you are leaving yourself a reason to get pulled over. The cops might think its a stolen car, or that the plates on it were stolen. Its alot more trouble than what its worth. If you are gonna rebadge it, i would think that you might have to re-register it.
And as far as pancaking against the windshield, that is grossly innaccurate. I have had the unpleasant job of reconstructing many accidents where drivers/passengers (front and rear) that have been enjected through the windshield. Wearing a seatbelt definately increases ones chance of surviving an auto accident, but doesnt guarantee anything.....
And as far as pancaking against the windshield, that is grossly innaccurate. I have had the unpleasant job of reconstructing many accidents where drivers/passengers (front and rear) that have been enjected through the windshield. Wearing a seatbelt definately increases ones chance of surviving an auto accident, but doesnt guarantee anything.....
who said anything about wearing seatbelt would guarantee anything But everyone knows wearing seatbelt > (safety) not wearing it. The talk about "no seatbelt = ejecting through windshield" was clearly NOT meant to be accurate... it was more of a figure of speech, clearly.
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Originally Posted by massr1
Windshield glass is tempered, meaning it is made to break up into many small unsharp pieces, instead of shattering which could become literal flying death spears. Either way the glass will break because of the velocity of the human, which means that person will be thrown out of the car and killed because he was to ignorant to wear a seatbelt.
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Enough 
with the flying through windshield or not talk...
Let me try to bring this thread back on track by this question
Is DE-badging just as illegal (at least possibly trouble-causing) as RE-badging?? (assuming rebadging is indeed at least trouble-causing as explained earlier)
with the flying through windshield or not talk...Let me try to bring this thread back on track by this question
Is DE-badging just as illegal (at least possibly trouble-causing) as RE-badging?? (assuming rebadging is indeed at least trouble-causing as explained earlier)