For all the MT owners. Can our tsx be push started? Has anyone tried?

 

I haven't tried it on the TSX yet but don't see why it wouldn't push or roll start. Did it not work for you?

 

I haven't been in a situation to give it a shot, but wondering. I know older MT cars wouldn't be a problem, such as the late model supra I had.

 

I push-started my TSX numerous times without a problem.

MBA

 

Cool...That answers that question.

 

I don't see why not -- this is another benefit of having an MT.

I'd avoid "popping" the clutch too quickly when push starting. It generally works to just lift your foot off the clutch at a modest but steady pace once you have some rolling speed. There will be a braking effect as the engine starts to turn, and then it should start. If you do it too slowly the car will just stop without starting unless you had a good bit of speed to start with.

 

It should work providing there is enough battery power to fire up the main relay, ECU, fuel pump, and ignition coil packs.

 

Battery power? It will start this way even without a battery! Its alternator power!

MBA

 

I tried it for the hell of it rolling down a hill.

 

Just curious just in case I would ever have to do it:

What are the steps to properly push starting a car?

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...start+a+car%22

http://www.wikihow.com/Push-Start-a-Car

 

Thanks

Sounds simple enough.

 

Definitely use 2nd gear, 1st is stressful on your car.

 

Try take out the battery or install a dead battery and see what happens. What powers the ECU to fire the injectors and provide ignition? The alternator doesn't even come into play until it's spinning at certain rpm. What spins the alternator?

 

http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/...ad-battery.htm

There's one I found while researching about the battery versus alternator thing that jtso and matvey were talking about.

According to http://www.journalscape.com/Harmonium/2004-07-28-23:31 , some guys were able to drive a rental van back to the airport without its battery.

As far as I know, the battery stores up a charge. The car uses this charge to power up everything so that your car can start. The car's power is then obtained through the alternator, which recharges the battery as well.

If a battery with some power were absolutely necessary to toe-start a car (yes, i grew up with the word toe-start, not push start), then I suppose MT's would never be able to be toe-started. For example, leave your headlights on overnight so it drains your battery.....

If both the battery and alternator are connected to the electrical system, and both are a source of power, then does it really matter which is used as a source? I do understand that some electricity is required (sparking the spark plugs, for instance), but even at a low spin, I think it should generate enough power? I think the alternators are three-phase, which means it has 3 internal units, each putting out power out of phase (120-degrees out of phase).

By the way, my dad told me that some vehicles can continue to run when you remove the battery terminal. He used to do it with one of his vehicles...

 

When a car won't start normally, people would keep cranking the engine and get to the point the starter won't turn over the engine. Then they say the battery is dead. So, they use the roll start method with a manual tran and the car starts. Somehow they assume since the battery is "dead", the alternator must be what started the car as some choose to believe here.

Now, think about it. Is the battery really dead or simply didn't have enough power to energize the starter motor? In most cases, the battery is too weak to turn over the engine via the starter but it probably has enough power to fire up the ECU, immobilizer, main relay, fuel, pump and injectors. By using the roll method, it allows the engine to go through at least the intake, compression and ignition cycles to bring the engine to life so the alternator can take over to charge the weak battery and provide power to the electrical system.

If a battery is truly dead, the roll start method wouldn't work for the same reason stated. If you want to verify, simply completely drain the battery so it won't even turn on any lights or any accessories. Then see if the "alternator" will start the car for you.

Btw, the guy in the video is a total joke! He claims he can start the car "without" the battery and when he opens the door, you can clearly hear the door chime! Also, he instructs to turn the key to the position before start. Do you wonder why? It's because by turning to that position, it provide battery power to the ignition coil(s) and ECU and all the items I mentioned earlier.

 

how fast would u need to be going? cuss one times i tried but failed.

 

Talk about bad luck. I started this thread today and now my car is dead. Meaning my car won't crank. Dash & interior lights work, but can't crank. AAA helped me out, so time for a new battery. If I lived on a hill, I would of definitely tried a push start.

 

I did it once on my old Civic (1997 Canadian Si - US EX equivalent), and we had to be running to get it going... I would assume it is the same, maybe a bit less, since the gearing is very short on the 6MT compared to the 5MT on the Civic.

 

At least 5 mph, preferably a little more. It varies from car to car, but a fast jogging pace is about right.

 

sigh i thought we were talking bout a push start button.. like ya kno an s2k. =X