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Old 01-10-2009, 02:47 PM
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Is my leather seat normal??? (2pics)

After 2 years. Ripple on the surface.

Dealer said, "normal wear and tear"

I beg to differ.... What do you think? Anyone have this problem?



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I don't have the middle crease. But mines an 05 and I have some of the creases on the side. It isn't the best leather. Gotta condition it a lot to keep it half decent.
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BTW I don't have a tank ass. I only weigh 135lb.
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Originally Posted by Daffunda
BTW I don't have a tank ass. I only weigh 135lb.
I'm guessing you drive around with a wallet in your pocket though...

am I right?
Old 01-10-2009, 03:40 PM
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my seats are like yours, except the leather hasn't ripped.

funny thing is, there's a stretch mark on my seat where your leather ripped, pretty much exact spot.

i do condition my seats about once a month....
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It has not ripped. It looks like that with a flash.

It is like the leather stretched, and now there is a ripple.
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
I'm guessing you drive around with a wallet in your pocket though...

am I right?
Yes, but wallet is in my front pocket, not back.
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IDK, how often do you clean and condition your seats? I ask cause in the pic they do look dirrrty and unconditioned.


If you have warranty you can still try to have the dealership replace it.

But I have an 05 and I often have my wallet in my pocket with no issues like yours.
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Originally Posted by Daffunda
Yes, but wallet is in my front pocket, not back.
huh.
then I'm baffled.
that doesn't look normal to me at all.
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It has been conditioned at least every 4 months.

The white stuff in the creased area is snow. It was snowing like crazy.
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Originally Posted by nujen
my seats are like yours, except the leather hasn't ripped.

funny thing is, there's a stretch mark on my seat where your leather ripped, pretty much exact spot.

i do condition my seats about once a month....
What do you use to condition them. Any products you could recommend?
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My 06 seat is like that too.
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*sigh* this is obviously a hit and miss deal. we have some who claim to have pristine leather, then you have guys like this guy and me who have crap for leather...

my guess is that the leather stiching is off and with the natural stretching leather has its rippling in odd areas for you.

at least your leather isn't tearing like mine. yeah, dealer said that's "normal wear and tear".
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Originally Posted by carmagnut
What do you use to condition them. Any products you could recommend?
My seats look brand new after one year of use, really brand new.
I use Lexol.
both the pH balanced cleaner and the conditioner.
once every 2-3 weeks.
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I have an 04, i dont got that flash in the leather?

...i've seen worse with the RSX crowd...trust me, their leather seat problems make our problems look like bunny rabbits. lawl.
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
My seats look brand new after one year of use, really brand new.
I use Lexol.
both the pH balanced cleaner and the conditioner.
once every 2-3 weeks.
You also do not put very many miles on your car.
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i have that on my passenger side, although mine doesn't have the ripple lines within the ripple.

weird. i have no idea where mine came from, or when it exactly showed up.
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
i have that on my passenger side, although mine doesn't have the ripple lines within the ripple.

weird. i have no idea where mine came from, or when it exactly showed up.
my passenger side seat has a small indentation caused by leaving a bag of canned vegetables on the seat for a few days. I learned not to that again.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
You also do not put very many miles on your car.
true, plus I'm careful with them.
but not a crease or wrinkle does say something.

I have an idea:

with hardwood floors, when there is a dent in the floor, an easy fix
is to put a damp washcloth over the dent then run a hot iron on it.

I wonder if any sort of thing is possible for leather?
seems the problem is the stretching of the material. maybe it can
be tightened back up with an iron, washcloth, and careful technique?
not sure at all, it would require some googling or whatnot, but there
might be a way to get it back, or make it less obvious without replacing it...?
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
true, plus I'm careful with them.
but not a crease or wrinkle does say something.

I have an idea:

with hardwood floors, when there is a dent in the floor, an easy fix
is to put a damp washcloth over the dent then run a hot iron on it.

I wonder if any sort of thing is possible for leather?
seems the problem is the stretching of the material. maybe it can
be tightened back up with an iron, washcloth, and careful technique?
not sure at all, it would require some googling or whatnot, but there
might be a way to get it back, or make it less obvious without replacing it...?
Thank you for trying to help fix the problem-I appreciate it. I do try to be very careful with the car. I donate canned goods to the local food pantry. I usually load them in the trunk but this time I put them on the passenger seat. It originally had two dents but I was able to get rid on one of them. I am sure overtime the other one hopefully will disappear.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Thank you for trying to help fix the problem-I appreciate it. I do try to be very careful with the car. I donate canned goods to the local food pantry. I usually load them in the trunk but this time I put them on the passenger seat. It originally had two dents but I was able to get rid on one of them. I am sure overtime the other one hopefully will disappear.
I actually just did some reading up on this thought.
but it is a no go.
leather and wood are soooo not similar.
seems there is no fix for stretched leather, and the culprit for it
is improper foam padding underneath the leather.
here is a quote I was reading:

This is one thing that theres NOT a lot that can be done to fix.
Leather has a grain, and a natural tendency to crease in a fashion that isn’t
that appealing to some. Keeping the leather soft by keeping it clean and
conditioning it can keep those creases from turning into cracks and in some
cases from forming at all. There are some instances the creases are just too
bad, this can be caused by the foam support breaking down behind the
leather causing the leather to fold excessively. The only fix to that is having
the foam replaced by your local upholstery shop. One way you can avoid
excessive foam breakage is to not roll in and out of the vehicle, try sitting a
little more gently, being aware of the leather.
I read in a forum the other day
of some one complaining about the creases and someone replied with a
recommendation of a professional to fill the creases and re-dye the seat.
Take it from a professional, this will not work. The only filling on seats is
when the leather actually cracks and exposes the raw leather, then filler will
stick and work to repair the cracks in the seat, if one was to have all the
creases filled in the leather to make it smooth would, let me say it bluntly, a
mess. Basically it would take to much filler and to much dye to make it look
right and most of all last. The dyes and fillers are made for minimal fixes.
When a repair is done on a cracked seat the finished product does not have
a smooth finish, I try to make the repair look natural, like the leather is
supposed to look. If the creases are too bad an upholstery shop is probably
your best bet, if its just wear or cracked leather with plenty of foam to
support the leather then call a professional ” Interior Guy “.
from: http://theinteriorguyllc.com/fix-creases-leather/

the bolded part is for the OP, maybe a reason why it happens?
Old 01-11-2009, 02:40 PM
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Its normal. Mine is an 06 and looks slightly worse than yours, but its older. Yours looks good I think.

Take care of your leather with a product. I use Turtle Wax F21 Super Protectant. I would take the wallet out if that's a wallet mark. It looks like the wallet is killing your seat.

heres another thread on our leather seats:
https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-2004-2008-124/low-quality-tsx-leather-seats-702683/
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