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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Is the link for the honda/acura nav. link dead. The site seems to be gone. I really need this hack to skip the nag screen. HELP!!
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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nevermind

nevermind, i read above and see the new links. im an idiot.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bbasso
For the past hour I have read each post in this VERY long thread!!!

Bysin, Thank you for taking your time to bother with this. I hope that when I pick up my 06 TSX in a few that I'll be able to get this to work.
Btw I enjoyed reading your posts, But to be honest I did not understand most of the computer stuff...

Now here is my question.

Is there anyone in the NYC area that has done this succesfully and would be willing to do this for me in the near future? A donation of :beer: or money will be offered.
(I'll have images ready to go but on CD)
Getting the CD's ready are the hardest part ;]
I bet you'll be just fine, give it a try!
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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help

when i try to run the dumpnavi program it just flashes on the screen for half a second then goes away, can anyone help me?!?!?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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i copied all the bin files to my hard drive, then im stuck there. Im not really good with computers. thereisprobably a simple answer hopefully someone can help.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tsXgtp
Getting the CD's ready are the hardest part ;]
I bet you'll be just fine, give it a try!
Computer and I just don't mix. I'm luck if the home computer does not crash more then once a day. Seriously!
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vader12021
i copied all the bin files to my hard drive, then im stuck there. Im not really good with computers. thereisprobably a simple answer hopefully someone can help.
I know you can find the answer in this thread, too bad its so long...

Re-download the dumpnavi and put it in the same folder as all of the Navi-DVD files.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasso
Computer and I just don't mix. I'm luck if the home computer does not crash more then once a day. Seriously!
Ok, I just updated my picture.
The image I created was 476x234, 256 color, 72dpi bitmap. Name it Back.bmp

Put that in the same folder with the Dumpnavi and bin files.

Check out what bin file your Navi uses: Turn on the car, hold Map, Menu and Cancel for a few seconds. Press Version and hold Menu again for a few seconds. Copy the Program File.bin name.

Load that bin file into DumpNavi. Uncheck Modiy Nag and load the image.

Burn the 9 bin files on a cd. I was unable to use an erasable CD and even cheap media. Had to use Verbatim.

Put the CD in, when you see the disc error, hold Map, Menu and Cancel. Go to Version and press Disc Load.

You'll see the status screen and 30 seconds later your pic will load. Once it is done, you'll get the error message again. Go ahead and put the Navi DVD in.

Waa Laa

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bysin
hmm.. the new dumpnavi i just released (version 1.1) has a BMP checker in there to make sure all the dimensions are correct (480x234x8 with RGB encoding).. should I remove that?
sup bysin
i just joined and just read that u can changed the nav....tried getting in on ur site to dl the program but i think the link is too old...can u update me ? thankx
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Thumbs up Worked like a charm!

I started at 3pm today, and it's up and running at 3:30pm! I love this thing!

Does anyone know how to add a background to the nag screen? Right now it's just black for a few seconds. Then a Go button appears.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay_Capo1
Does anyone know how to add a background to the nag screen? Right now it's just black for a few seconds. Then a Go button appears.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jay
I know that's not part of Bysin's hack. All you did was remove the text that used to be there. It may be possible, but more research would need to be done.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay_Capo1
I started at 3pm today, and it's up and running at 3:30pm! I love this thing!

Does anyone know how to add a background to the nag screen? Right now it's just black for a few seconds. Then a Go button appears.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jay
I tried to find (and decrease) the delay while it displayed the nag screen. (I think one reason we can't shorten the nag screen is that the boot up process may be what determines how long it takes. So we wouldn't be able to use it any sooner anyway.) In the process, using the hex editor (as bysin said) I found the normally displayed text (which is removed by bysin's program) so I think you should be able to make it say whatever you want. I haven't tried it, yet, though.

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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Ok.. great.. I can probably take a look at the hex editor part. I would be cool to extend the Back.bmp to cover the black screen/text screen!

I take a lookie' and get back to you guys. Thanks, Jay
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay_Capo1
Ok.. great.. I can probably take a look at the hex editor part. I would be cool to extend the Back.bmp to cover the black screen/text screen!

I take a lookie' and get back to you guys. Thanks, Jay

I'm so rude... sorry... Special thanks to Bysin for making this possible!

You Rock!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.

I'm experienced monstly in x86 debugging/'cracking'. I've removed nags and whatnot from many programs and have good experience with assembly modification.

I have to agree with bysin that removing the nag screen from the navi would be exceedingly difficult if background tasks are executing at the same time.

It seems bysin has exited from the scene since April and his site no longer works. Earlier in this thread he posted a link to the disassembled ASM (which is now down) of NAVI.EXE.

I have a copy of IDA, but my license doesn't allow me to work on SH4 compiled executables.

I'll be willing to help if I can get the tools.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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bysin

Bysin is still around.. if you check out his profile he's still posting. You might want to PM him.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by damats
Bysin is still around.. if you check out his profile he's still posting. You might want to PM him.
hmm you're right...
haha maybe the "authorities" found out about this thread and specifically forbad him to post in this thread or talk about anything near hacking
if so may I say :
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Modifying my Navi

I just saw this VERY cool thread. However, I tried to link to "http://www.linuxkiddies.com/bysin/navi.zip" but with no success. How can I get the application?

Wayne
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WndrBr3d
I have to agree with bysin that removing the nag screen from the navi would be exceedingly difficult if background tasks are executing at the same time.

The 06 NAVI is supposed to have faster processor speed and bootup. Has anyone tried this modification on the newer setup? I dont have my 06 TSX yet to try it out.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by huckleberry
hmm you're right...
haha maybe the "authorities" found out about this thread and specifically forbad him to post in this thread or talk about anything near hacking
if so may I say :
I know you're just joking, or I assume, but that's kinda messed up to pull the "owned" thing on Bysin. Here's a selfless guy who took the time to share something cool with the community, and then when he gets in trouble, you treat him like that...

Rich
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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i read around a good 10-15 pages, my eyes hurt... has anyone got this to work on an 01-02 CL ? or is it only for the newer TL / TSX's?
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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What about the "OK" button

There's been talk about the nag screen, it's name speaks for itself, has anyone figured out how to automatically select OK without having to touch the screen?
(I own a 2004 Hona Accord with Navi)
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Does this work on Ody's

Anyone try or know if this works on the Honda Odyssey? I tried last night and couldn't get to the part where you verify which file the navi loads first. This is the part after you get into the system menu, hit the version button, then hold the menu button until a message saying "loading (filename)" appears. It never appears. Any clues?
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBluu
Anyone try or know if this works on the Honda Odyssey? I tried last night and couldn't get to the part where you verify which file the navi loads first. This is the part after you get into the system menu, hit the version button, then hold the menu button until a message saying "loading (filename)" appears. It never appears. Any clues?

Hey I am in the same boat as you, I am stuck on step 4.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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I can't seem to find a copy of the stuff. Is the webpage up and down or did I miss an updated or mirror site on one of the 30 some pages of this thread that I skipped?

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Can someone please send me a copy via email or something? I really would like to get my hands on the source to bysin's tool so I can not waste time on stuff that's already been done.

Thanks,
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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DumpNavi bysin

Hey peeps, whats up. Well I got the whole Dump Navi program, but on the instructions in the very begining of this thread. It says at the main screen to push map/guide, menu, & cancel buttons for 5 secs. Well what is considered the main screen? The screen where the earth picture comes up when the navi starts up, or the nag screen, or the menu screen where you choose your destinations? By the way will this even work on the 03 TL's cause thats what I have. Thanks Guys.

Car- 03 TL TYPE S with Navi.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by deejayceas
Hey peeps, whats up. Well I got the whole Dump Navi program, but on the instructions in the very begining of this thread. It says at the main screen to push map/guide, menu, & cancel buttons for 5 secs. Well what is considered the main screen? The screen where the earth picture comes up when the navi starts up, or the nag screen, or the menu screen where you choose your destinations? By the way will this even work on the 03 TL's cause thats what I have. Thanks Guys.

Car- 03 TL TYPE S with Navi.
not sure about the 03 TL thing, but the menu/map/cancel buttons will work on any screen after the startup process has finished. So don't do it on the earth screen or the nag screen. Do it on the map or menu screen.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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The site is back up.. I'm working on making a linux port of the navigation system. It might only work for the TSX intially until i can test it out on a TL. But anyway, my ported version should be a lot more graphical then the one that comes with the navi, and a lot more customizable.. I would also use opensource GIS information (instead of navtech data), so I could give free map updates (i think $100 is a little too much, acura).
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bysin
The site is back up.. I'm working on making a linux port of the navigation system. It might only work for the TSX intially until i can test it out on a TL. But anyway, my ported version should be a lot more graphical then the one that comes with the navi, and a lot more customizable.. I would also use opensource GIS information (instead of navtech data), so I could give free map updates (i think $100 is a little too much, acura).

Bysin, that is EXCELLENT to hear.. It sounds like you are really on top of things. I will definetly give that a try as soon as it's ready. One other interesting feature would be a plugin interface, that way we could load stuff from the DVD drive into memory of the NAVI. Such as a recipe database, so that we could keep recipe information in the navigation system for those trips to the store! Right now I use my home theater pc for all my recipe needs, but I can't print from it and it doesn't have a modem installled.

Keep up the good work!!
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bysin
The site is back up.. I'm working on making a linux port of the navigation system. It might only work for the TSX intially until i can test it out on a TL. But anyway, my ported version should be a lot more graphical then the one that comes with the navi, and a lot more customizable.. I would also use opensource GIS information (instead of navtech data), so I could give free map updates (i think $100 is a little too much, acura).
This is excellent news and a very great idea. I will definitely give it a try when its finished, free map and POI updates sound VERY good! This is most definitely be very beneficial to us navi owners, can't wait to see the result of this.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bysin
The site is back up.. I'm working on making a linux port of the navigation system. It might only work for the TSX intially until i can test it out on a TL. But anyway, my ported version should be a lot more graphical then the one that comes with the navi, and a lot more customizable.. I would also use opensource GIS information (instead of navtech data), so I could give free map updates (i think $100 is a little too much, acura).
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Bysin, that is EXCELLENT to hear.. It sounds like you are really on top of things. I will definetly give that a try as soon as it's ready. One other interesting feature would be a plugin interface, that way we could load stuff from the DVD drive into memory of the NAVI. Such as a recipe database, so that we could keep recipe information in the navigation system for those trips to the store! Right now I use my home theater pc for all my recipe needs, but I can't print from it and it doesn't have a modem installled.

Keep up the good work!!


Fuck that, can you get the navi system to MAKE said recipes?

Cant wait to try this out Bysin. Glad your still working on it...
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Hey Bysin,

Glad to see you back! Would the Linux port still have voice-control functionality? Sounds like a huge endeavour to me, but I'm guessing you'll be modifying an existing open-source navigation package. If you need help, I know my way around Linux and could help you out with test builds on a 3rd-gen TL which is what I have. I'm not worried about frying my system since I know the firmware can always be restored from the original DVD disk. Looking forward to seeing this and/or helping you out.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Is it just me or did the site go down again? Just my luck, I suppose.

In any case, thanks for the tools, bysin. I have a question that perhaps you could answer... is this system the same (or similar) to the MS Windows CE "Alpine" development system with the same Hitachi SH4? I've been lesiurely reading up on Dreamcast hacking and I don't seem to be finding much that will help me directly, though I'm sure I'd be a bit more hardcore about it if I got a Dreamcast. Do you know of any docs that could help someone familiarize him/herself with this system? I just spent the last week acquiring the MS tools that may have been used to build the navi, though perhaps that was unnecessary since you seem to have everything working from linux. I prefer to use my Mac over the windows box, but at this point I'll put up with it for sweet sweet navi hax. =)

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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Bysin.......was wondering if you knew anything about the PC slot on the navigation dvd player....the new civic 06 have PC slot and function on the navigation to read a PC card adaptor which could essentially hold files like mp3s......i was wondering if you new a way to make the pc slot functional on the navigations before 06....i have a 03 accord with navi and it has the pc slot but the navigation doesn't know what to do with it when you put something in there........the pc slot is basically the same cardbus slot you see on your laptop.........your navidump program is really awesome and thanks for hooking us all up
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by inca
Is it just me or did the site go down again? Just my luck, I suppose.

In any case, thanks for the tools, bysin. I have a question that perhaps you could answer... is this system the same (or similar) to the MS Windows CE "Alpine" development system with the same Hitachi SH4? I've been lesiurely reading up on Dreamcast hacking and I don't seem to be finding much that will help me directly, though I'm sure I'd be a bit more hardcore about it if I got a Dreamcast. Do you know of any docs that could help someone familiarize him/herself with this system? I just spent the last week acquiring the MS tools that may have been used to build the navi, though perhaps that was unnecessary since you seem to have everything working from linux. I prefer to use my Mac over the windows box, but at this point I'll put up with it for sweet sweet navi hax. =)

Cheers,
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Oops its back up... Embeded Visual Studio was the most help.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Bysin.......was wondering if you knew anything about the PC slot on the navigation dvd player....the new civic 06 have PC slot and function on the navigation to read a PC card adaptor which could essentially hold files like mp3s......i was wondering if you new a way to make the pc slot functional on the navigations before 06....i have a 03 accord with navi and it has the pc slot but the navigation doesn't know what to do with it when you put something in there........the pc slot is basically the same cardbus slot you see on your laptop.........your navidump program is really awesome and thanks for hooking us all up
What I was planning on doing was writing my own and offering it as a replacement for the stock navigation system in all Honda/Acuras. It'll be more graphical and more customizable then the stock system. I'd use the PCICMA card slot for extra storage, or for 802.11g access in your car.. The problem people are having now with 802.11 cards in their PCMCIA slot, is that the software prevents you from having your drive bay open. So, obviously, replaceing the software completely would solve that problem.
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