Ok, doesn't have Bi-Xenons but I had to give the TSX one.

 

You know, I never understood why some people are so caught up on bi-xenons. Personally, I'd much rather have the greater spread of the traditional halogens for the high-beams.

 

on that.

 

I hope you get free oil change for like 4years or 50k miles.

 

Ohhh, by the way. I love your IS!!!

 

Nice car, , but ouch on the price
Isn't the M35x about that same price and it's bigger.

Does anyone know if a fully loaded G35x w/navi is cheaper than this fully loaded IS250 AWD?

 

You forgot to mention one of the most expensive differences... The IS he bought has AWD.

 

Oh yah and what Toyota is the IS based from (since it's such a popular topic with the TSX)?
Corolla or Camry? Is it it's own stand-alone underpinnings? Looks like a suped up corolla to me .

Nice looking car, enjoy it... me, I'd spend the extra money spent on the IS on something else.

 

I think all or most of us TSX owners bought the car for it's value and under $30K price tag and well for me is my first time I've bought a luxury car brand, thus being a entry level luxury sports sedan. The IS series is neither a car to buy for its value, but just for the sake of having a status symbol car (IMO).

 

Why wouldn't you buy it for it's value. Value to you is different than value to someone else. Just like someone might think you got ripped off buying the TSX when you could get an Accord for less. The IS is a damn good car for what it is meant to be. If you want back seat space, get a GS. There aren't many cars that have what the IS offers that have the same quality AND reliability of a Lexus.

 

First off all, congrats newbie75 on a very nice car. Great color choice as it looks very luxurious and im sure you will be happy for years with your car (my next car is going to be AWD also).

The above quote though seems to be a standard line though whenever someone buys a lexus, bmw etc....The TSX has none of the features mentioned earlier in the thread. Then its mentioned that well they do kind of (ie. tilt and tele, but its not power on the TSX etc etc).

I hate to tell you this but all these little extra's cost money plus its a AWD (RWD based) car. Thats over $3000. USD and $5500 CDN difference for the AWD option alone and dont forget the lexus service and maintenance pkg that comes with the car.

I think he got a good price for the car and when you break it all down he may have paid a few thousand more for his car but really it's much more of a car than the TSX and then things like looks which are subjective come into play which maybe the reason why "newbie75" wanted to pay the extra for.....

 

Nice car, newbie75. I can't wait till mine comes in in another month or so.

 

Ouch... and I just bought a TSX.

IS250 is a nicer car than a TSX. So is a Bently. I still think though the TSX is a LOT more car for the money.... a "poor mans" Lexus.

 

nice car but it costs too much.

 

holy 38-40k? I would have looked at the new 5 series for that but you have AWD and Navi and fully loaded Lexus so can't complaint.

 

Congrats, now, here comes the playa hating... Just kidding....

1) 40K! Ouch! Could have gotten a nice Fully Equipped 2006 BMW 325i for that $$$

2) "TSX is slighty faster" (AWD) ?

3) I thought TSX is more rare of a breed, cause I see the IS more frequently on the road, but I hardly see any TSX's

Still Congrats!

 

You weren't even close.

 

Yeah, it's cheaper and has a better engine and handling, but loses in the interior and features department.

 

Why does everyone say that, "oh you should of got a 325, you should of got that, got this"

Yes and you should of got a TL? Why didnt you?? People have there OWN reasons for buying the car they want.

I would pick Lexus over BMW anyday If I was BUYING and keeping the car 5+ years. Lexus is the most reliable car out there. I wouldnt want my car in the should a few times every month or so.

Great choice on the IS250!! That is my next vehicle!

Plus you can get a Manual IS250 18 inch wheels and all the standard equpiment for $30-31k before taxes. He just choose the AWD option plus an expensive package.

 

Yeah you're right about the interior, but I guess no car is perfect.

 

Its threads like these were 1sicklex is missed...

 

Nice car, congrats on the purchase. The thing looks like it needs some wheels and a drop though. That wheel gap in the rear looks huge.

 

Using Tintin's numbers the price difference is around $15K CDN. Now minus the AWD, we have approx. $9K difference.

My question (a real question): does the remaining extra on the IS, plus the theoretically better Lexus service, worth $9K?

I like the car, but I always thought it was overpriced. I would really like someone to demonstrate to me with rational arguments whether the IS is worth the extra bucks or not.

 

interesting comments 1sicklex posts...

ones from here and other lexus forums...

 

i think i would too...

 

Haha, grats on the car newbie75, its a good high quality machine you got there. My friend just picked up his IS350, like almost the 5000th vehicle off the production line.

I'd be the first to say though, I'd still take a TSX over the IS, main reason was that the price is roughly 42k =.=. The interior on the IS350 didnt look/feel as i thought it would've looked, and both the backseat/trunk didnt fit people/stuff too well (no fold down seats either, not that i care, but seeems to me lotta people here care rofl). I couldn't feel the difference between my TSX's leather, and the IS's leather, but that might be because I wear jeans and sweatshirts. 5 people on the car is probably a no-no espeically if theyre all close to 6ft. The interior seemed bland while looking at it, and the info display on the IS compared to the TSX is pathetic although the jumping tach when you start the car is pretty fun xD. The center console looked like a ES330 if you ask me...... definately didn't anything near high tech (pretty old approach nav + cd), which is the same dash in half the lexuses rofl. The whole keyless system is a nice touch, and very useful to boot TSX's should have that ASAP! Other than that, the IS felt like a great mix between the ES's luxury with the IS's sporty features with a ripoff pricetag. If the price of the IS were about 5k lower, I'd jump, but until then TSX + Aspec + Supercharge =)

 

Nice car! I think it's worth the money because Lexus is number 1 in reliability and maybe even resale value. The last gen IS300 are still like $20k for a 2001/2002 model. Good choice!!! That's one sweeet looking car. Definitely better than a TSX in almost all aspects except for value.

 

Go to the IS forums haha I attempted a rational debate; however, they flamed the crap outta me, so yeah I refuse to go back there. Haven is here rofl even if i had the money for a IS, I'd buy a TSX cuz people here are way better TSXers are a lot more moderate in their thinking, and actually accepting of ideas, which are right. In fact, the guy posted he bought a IS over a TSX in a TSX forum, and most of us support him haha. Try the opposite in a IS forum rofl i'd venture to say 25 flames per second?

 

I'm not going to say the IS isn't a great car with a lot of luxury, because it is. it's a little underpowered for the price tag, but that's a different argument.

and VALUE is bang for your bock, in the way 04EuroAccordTsx is using the word. Now, although the word value can take on many different meanings, and a car's purchase price can be justified based on what an individual thinks is important in the car, you cannot even remotely argue that the Lexus IS is a good VALUE for the dollar.

It's not very difficult to argue that the TSX is a great value over the Accord, for the features you're getting for the price. With the IS over the TSX, and a $10,000 price difference....you're only arguing points really is AWD, and automatic tilt/dimming sideview mirrors.

If you VALUE the name Lexus, then you are, as 04EuroAccordTsx pointed out, buying into the status symbol.

The Acura TSX is in no way as luxurious as the Lexus IS...point to point. But it's also not that far from it. Say you threw in the following:

AWD (nice, but i wouldn't have opted for this, i woulda got RWD!)
Power tilt-and-telescopic steering column (nice, but how nice?) (memory feature is nice)
power lumbar (one of my complaints about the TSX, such a stupid thing to leave out)
memory outside mirrors and steering wheel (nice feature IMO)
Illuminated doorsill scuff plates (i honestly don't even know the real point of this)
Power rear-window sunshade (nice to say you have, i'd never use it)
Rain-sensing intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle (the lever to turn the wipers on isn't that far away, and the rain sensing wipers i've used never go the speed i want anyways)
Electrochromic (auto-dimming) outside mirrors with auto tilt-down in reverse (VERY NICE)
Bi-xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps (nothing big to me)
Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) (nothing big to me)


Now Honestly, you're telling me that's worth $10,000????

 

as an aside, i still think it's a nice car....just a few more G's than i'd like to pay for it. So i CAN see why someone would buy it, but also can see why MANY wouldn't.

If it does great in sales, that's fantastic. Lexus is a great brand

 

For $2k - $3k more than the TSX there's a very good chance I'd have considered the Lexus (had it been released, of course) instead. But there's no way I'd pay for an IS250 given it's actual price as there are better cars, to me anyway, for that much money.

That being said, it IS (ha ha) a nice car, and I have no doubt that you'll love it.

 

Very much agreed. I actually think i'd stretch it to about $5k more than the TSX. but at 10k more, there's a lot more that would enter the game for me.

I think he's gonna love the car though. You really can't go wrong with a lexus. honestly, it's very difficult to bash anything they make.

 

I like the interior of the IS a lot and after sitting into one, I feel the interior of my TSX is very plastic. And also the exterior finish of the IS is second to none. When park a E90 beside it, the E90 will look very dull. Why Toyota didn't offer stick shift on IS350! If they do, I think I am already driving one. Oh well, be honest even they offer manual trans, Toyota need to improve their gearbox before they can win my heart over. The manual trans on the old IS are so filmsy!

 

I would pick a Base IS250 for $32,000 (you can get an auot with just preminum package for this much) over a fully loaded Acura TSX.

Why?

I dont need heated seats- Live in So Cal.
Dont need heated mirrors- cuz where I live.
Bluethtook I can live with out.
FWD sucks.


The IS DOES come with perforated leather seats that blow hot or cold air through the little holes. 12 way driver seat, Smartkey Keyless entry with start button, etc

The IS250 IS NOT $10,000 more then an TSX.

I rather pay $2-4k more for the IS250. You get RWD which is a plus for me. Lexus quality. Better materials used. ie leather seats. Comes with a better onboard computer then the Acura. When you sit in the Lexus you can see they spent time on it. I dont get that impression with the TSX. PLus better service then Acura, and you get Lexus loaners. Spending $2-4 more is WORTH it.

 

i don't think it's that easy to do...

different financial situations, perceptions of value, reliability, driving dynamics, etc.

although it can be stated as fact that the is250 is $9000 CDN more than a similarly-equipped tsx, justifying the additional $9000 may be more subjective than anything else...

same can be said about a tsx v. accord. it's all about preferences...

 

really?

i liked the 5mt on the is300. the throws were a little longer than a tsx, but, still very smooth from my experience...

 

Maybe the demo car When I test drove it couple years ago, it grinded a couple times and hard to shift to 1st and 2nd. My old prelude shift more smoother than the old IS300. I really dun have good impression of the test drive, that's why I got the TSX instead.

 

The IS just came out, and the TSX has been out for close to three years, yet you see more IS's on the road? That doesn't add up.

 

I've seen quite a few of the new IS's out around here in NJ --- Newbie, maybe you were one of them? I really dig the new styling, although I have to admit that it looks like a more muscular Scion tC to me (but I don't mean that as a knock since I find the tC to be very appealing as well). I've never driven the new IS, but my problem with some of the Lexus vehicles I have driven is that the driving feels so "detached". Toyota did such a good job of completely isolating the driver from the outside of the vehicle that you almost feel like you're just "floating" along. To some, that is exactly what they want and expect from a luxury line. For me, I'd rather have more feedback from the steering column, and feel like I'm actually controlling the car... not just riding in it. That's also why I highly prefer MTs...

Lexus reliability, status, etc... they've all been discussed ad nauseum. The creature comforts and AWD option attract me, but correct me if I'm wrong... the IS250 AWD and IS350 are not available in a manual? That alone would keep me from buying the car...

 

you're comparing a navi TSX price to a non-navi IS correct? You are correct though, an IS can be had for less than 10,000 more than a TSX, but a comprable IS cannot be had for 2-4k, unless you're comparing the non navi model TSX, which case it would be more like 5-6k more than the TSX.