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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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This is what Consumer Reports had to say about EBD at their website:

"Virtually every car can compensate braking according to load. It's not new. It was true even in the 70s"


Basically, they see EBD as feature that is of minmal utility. I'm only raising this issue because this is one feature that the TSX does not have, which other upscale sport sedans do. I had wondered whether the TSX's so-so braking preformance might be partialled rooted in the lack of EBD.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Hmmm, that's a very interesting conclusion that CR has come to. I have theorized myself, that lack of EBD contributed a bit to the longer-than-you-expect stopping distances.

In dry, high-grip situations, you'd expect the majority of braking force to come from the front tires.

In wet/snow/ice low traction, you'd expect braking to be roughly 60/40, following the car's weight distribution.

...I think I'm going to have to go over there (CR) and read that article that you were talking about. Do you have a link? (I have an online subscription).

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 11:43 PM
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Hmmm, that's a very interesting conclusion that CR has come to. I have theorized myself, that lack of EBD contributed a bit to the longer-than-you-expect stopping distances.

In dry, high-grip situations, you'd expect the majority of braking force to come from the front tires.

In wet/snow/ice low traction, you'd expect braking to be roughly 60/40, following the car's weight distribution.

...I think I'm going to have to go over there (CR) and read that article that you were talking about. Do you have a link? (I have an online subscription).

Thanks,
Test_Drive
Yeah, this was in the Discussion section. One of their editors responding to a questions from a poster. I think he was comparing a M6 to a TSX:


How beneficial is Electronic Brake Distribution? I noticed EBD is not listed on the CR Model Overview profiles. However, antilock brakes, traction control, and stability control are included as part of the safety feature criteria. How much does this feature typically add to the cost of a car?

I am considering three cars that cost less than 30K and that are equipped as shown in the chart:

ABS X X X
4-Wheel disc X X X
EBD X X --
Traction Control -- X X
Stability Control -- -- X


Assuming these cars are comparable in most other respects that are important to me, which is likely to be the better choice?

Thanks,

Charles


From: CR_Expert_Gabriel Dec-17 1:36 pm
To: C._Charles (2 of 3)

156.2 in reply to 156.1

Virtually every car can compensate braking according to load. It's not new. It was true even in the 70s.

The car in your right column has the most comprehensive safety equipment due to the stability control system.


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From: C._Charles Dec-17 7:27 pm
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156.3 in reply to 156.2

Thanks Gabriel!

It is such a blessing to have access to impartial expert such as you to help cut through all the marketing hype that adds to the confusion of the car buying process.

How much is typically added to the cost of a car for this "new" feature?

Charles
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Was wondering about this. TSX does not advertise EBD as a feature, but on page 213 of the manual (The Braking System), center column, third paragraph, it says:

"The ABS also balances the front-to-rear braking distribution according to car loading."

What is this, if not EBD?
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scheißterhöffer
Was wondering about this. TSX does not advertise EBD as a feature, but on page 213 of the manual (The Braking System), center column, third paragraph, it says:

"The ABS also balances the front-to-rear braking distribution according to car loading."

What is this, if not EBD?
wow, good find

edit: I have now bumped you to block #2
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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edit: I have now bumped you to block #2

Schweet. Finally I have risen above all the other one block savages here on the site. May you all burn in eternal hellfire!

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scheißterhöffer
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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wow, good find

edit: I have now bumped you to block #2
Just for ?
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Just for ?
Yes. I but didn't remember that
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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