Mokos23

My folks had an I35 and it had a really bad turn radius to be able to park your car.

Today I was getting out of parking and i turned the steering wheel all the way and it felt like our Tsx has a big turn radius too? i hope not. But it can't be, cause the Accords I've driven in the past always have had good turn radiuses.

jcg878

Ummm... you own one right??

I'd say it's pretty big :angry:

ClutchPerformer

Yes. But not as big as it could be.

crisco

double wishbone = big turn radius. At least that's what I've read...

gfxdave99

Back when I had my CTS I had a full size Caddy Deville as my rental car.. now thats a BIG turn radius.. I have no problem parking my TSX

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

On paper, out turning radius is one of the biggest that I've seen, but behind the wheel, you barely even notice.

Mokos23

just got back from lunch break and i tried to park my tsx just to try it out between two cars and yeah u guys are right it was no problem.

but, i have yet to try the ultimate test, if the Tsx has no problems handling a U-turn, then I won't have second thoughts about the big turn radius.

fdl

Yes the turning radius is rather large. I definately notice it.

Revenent

I know the TSX has a variable steering assist, but does it have the variable turning angle?

It's probably just me, but I feel like the car turns a lot sharper under acceleration than not. I was trying to park (empty lot, thank goodness), and I tapped the gas too hard, and the car turned a lot tighter than if I took it slow.

Probably just me.

fdl

What do you mean by variable turning angle? Are you refering to something similar to BMW's new "active steering"? Because the TSX definately does not have this. In fact other than the new 5 series I dont know any car that does.

Revenent

Hmmm - just did a google on that, and yeah, it felt like that. But guess I imagined it.

On a side note, anybody know how the variable assist works when in reverse? I generally back into most slots (time and angle allowing) and I'm still trying to adjust to how the car handles.

(Note: The last car I drove on a consistent basis was a 86 Civic Wagovan.)

Mokos23

has anyone tried making a u-turn yet in their Tsx? i just wanted to know if you had any problems executing the manuever due to the high turn radius. i'm still working so i haven't had a chance to try making a u-turn yet.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

If it's a wide enough road, U-Turns are fine. If it's a two lane road, U-Turns are performed at 25 mph with the e-brake.

TSX Hokie

See, who needs RWD? Revenent is defying the laws of physics and getting oversteer with his FWD TSX..eat that Gilbo

TinkySD

I know stock i did a u on a 2 lane road by going into the bike lane a bit, with the new rear sway it might even be improved slightly.

meeh

TSX has a big turn radius. Even the accord and TL is smaller. I wonder why?

gfxdave99

Did you miss the whole double wishbone discussion earlier in the thread?

TSX Turning Radius 20.0 '
I35 Turning Radius 20.0 '
TL Turning Radius 19.8 '
US Accord 4 door 18.1 '
RSX 19.0'
Civic Coupe 17.1'
WRX 17.1
Caddy CTS 17.7
Lex IS300 17.1'

(all gathered from carsdirect.com)

Crazytree

I have to make a complete u-turn everyday to park in my apartment building. My turn radius is about 30" larger than my Explorer.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

By specs it's only 0.7 feet different. Dunno.

TinkySD

Just for comparisons sake the 6s, which is lauded for it's handling and has a similar suspension, wheel size, tire setup to the tsx is listed as 39 feet. Nearly identical. It's a function of the suspension type and setup along with the wheels, not poor design.

Mokos23

man, that sucks that the Tsx and I35 have the same bad turn radius. i drove my folks car, and it was so hard to park that dang I35. but, like someone else said earlier today, it has a big turn radius, but u don't notice it as bad as the I35. My folks since then have traded in the I35 and bought a G35 sedan and that thing turns really well.

Proo

I notice it. It sucks. I often have to do a 3-point 90 degree turn to get into some spaces.

Crazytree

hmm maybe I'm off a little bit but It's at least 18" in pulling into my parking spot. note that I did have an Explorer SPORT... maybe this made a difference.

zircon

I have to do a 3 point turn on my street after picking up mail (3 lanes total) from an off-road mailbox. My 99 Accord could do a U turn without issue from the same location. The TSX turns like a bus in tight corners.

Nighthawk04

iTrader: (2)

The 3G V6 Eclipse's turning radius is 41 FT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats 6 ft larger than the Hummer H2.

This cars turning radius is A LOT less than my Eclipse's..

ocer411

Actually those are turning circle specs. To get the turning radius split those numbers in half. The TSX turning circle is 40 while the Hummer is 43.5 . Still, all that being said the TSX rocks! This is one of the first handling flaws that anyone has ever brought up before. I'm still happy...

Revenent

That's right, I'm warping space-time and shrinking the effective turning radius of the TSX.

Riiiiiight.

I think I've been watching one too many episodes of Star Trek. Time to head back into the real world and drive the TSX some more.

jlukja

Yes, the TSX has a much bigger turning radius than my wife's Civic. My wife can do a U-turn on our street but the TSX requires a Y-turn. Its usually not too noticeable except the time I went against traffic in the parking lot and had to do a couple forward-then-backs to get into the angled parking spot.

Arcticcl9

I didn't notice that the TSX has a large turning radius until I read this thread...I thought I was still having problems parking since the car was new

Here is an interesting (or scary) info..the other car that I've driven a while back, 1997 Honda Odyssey has a turning radius of 5.7m, or 18.7 ft! That's over a foot smaller turning radius than the TSX...No wonder I never had problems with parking that car (plus the wide windows make a good view)

BTW...the 97 Odyssey has 4-wheel double-wishbone suspension...and a wheelbase is bigger at 111.4 in.(compared to TSX of 105 in.) ...so why the is the TSX still has bigger turning radius Probably less space in the front wheelwell?

osubuckeye98

yes I barely made it.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

I think it's just a factor of they had so much steering wheel turn (lock to lock) and then messed with the pinion gearing.

type-s

its a lot better than my previous car a 5th gen prelude...

Ernie

Mokos23

from reading some of your replies some of u have said that you can barely make a u-turn, so that would suck if you're at a light and then oncoming traffic would get pissed at u if they had to wait, and then some others have said that they have to reposition the Tsx twice until they get into their parking spot. do you think this problem would be corrected in the 2005 mode?l Honda/Acura engineers didn't even know about this "sleeper" problem they overlooked in their Quality test runs?
it has to do with the 17 inch wheels w/the 2x wishbone suspension cause the accords wheels on earlier accords were only 14-16 inches, don't know about the new accords.

ClutchPerformer

It also has to do with having a transversely-mounted inline four cylinder engine (something which will not change in the '05 model year). There's not that much room for the wheels to physically move left and right. You guys are just gonna have to deal with it. The 1st gen CL had the same problem, but worse.

idlegrasshopper

I have recently been considering buying a TSX, and the large turn radius is something that is bugging me. Maximum maneuverability is a key for me, since living in the city often requires parking in tight spaces and quick u-turns.

I want to know why the Euro Accord only has a 35.4 ft turn circle (5.4 m according (ha!) to the UK Honda site), while the NA market car has a 40 ft turn circle. Does anybody here know if they use different steering/suspension in the NA model? I don't think the huge turn circle can be attribued soley to the front drive layout. My old Integra only had a 34-ish foot turn circle, with a wheelbase only 4 inches shorter than the TSX. Even the Volvo cars with the transverse 5 cyl have shorter turn circles (39 ft) than the TSX.

If the steering gear is different, does anybody know the possibility of retrofitting the Euro gear onto the NA car?

gfxdave99

Now that i have attempted some U turns, it does seem a little wider then some of my previous cars...

However Parking etc doesnt seem to be a problem

ZBJZ15

This sucks. Are you guys telling me you have trouble pulling the TSX into normal parking spots? That could be a real pain in the ass if it's true...

gfxdave99

I have no problems parking the TSX Parallel or otherwise...

Mokos23

just tried making a U-turn, it suits my needs well, it makes it, but i had to u-turn slowly. so, i'm not sure if u could do a u-turn fast either fast in the Tsx or under pressure when there could be oncoming traffic approaching, but that would be stupid. it turns fine, but the the USDM 6th and 7th gen Accords turn better for some reason

JRock

Anyone know what the 2nd gen CL's turning radius was? Specifically an '01 CL TypeS. Because if the TSX is at all better than that, I won't mind it.

Btw, the MDX turns tighter than my CLS did. =p