Does the nav take into consideration current speed when determining ETA?
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Does the nav take into consideration current speed when determining ETA?
Does anyone have a definitive answer?
I was stuck in traffic at a spot where I would generally be home in 10 minutes tops if moving at posted speed limits.
The other day, I was stuck in crawling traffic and the nav's ETA was 19 minutes.
I was stuck in traffic at a spot where I would generally be home in 10 minutes tops if moving at posted speed limits.
The other day, I was stuck in crawling traffic and the nav's ETA was 19 minutes.
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My experience was similar. It was scary accurate with its time estimates, didn't matter if I was doing 85 on a 5 mph on a 55 mph highway, it seems to provide good estimates based on actual speed.
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most navi's are pretty accurate, however some of them don't factor in speed limits on some parts. I had my navi tell me 5 mins on a 5 mile road which had a posted limit of 25 mph.
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Originally Posted by acn684
most navi's are pretty accurate, however some of them don't factor in speed limits on some parts. I had my navi tell me 5 mins on a 5 mile road which had a posted limit of 25 mph.
I'd like to hear what brand of Navi doesn't have accurate arrival times. For example, I've been looking hard at the Navigon, due to the lifetime free traffic, but hesitant in getting it as the re-routing feature sucked balls from what I see in many user reviews.
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Wait, I just thought of something... I think your Navi wasn't wrong... for it to tell you that you'll arrive in 5mins over a 5 mile stretch, you must be travelling over 60mph at the time!
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I know that if I'm stopped at a red light, the ETA clock freezes (IE: it just measures the amount of moving time). I also notice the ETA change when I hit traffic (takes a couple of minutes though).
Navi's can use your gps coordinates to calculate how fast you're going, but they can't tell when you'll be stopped by a red light. As long as you're moving, I think it'll continue using available information to make new calculations...
Navi's can use your gps coordinates to calculate how fast you're going, but they can't tell when you'll be stopped by a red light. As long as you're moving, I think it'll continue using available information to make new calculations...
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Many Navigations also use the VSS vehicle speed sensor to determine how fast you're going. This sensor sends out X amounts of pulses per second based on how fast you're going.
The factory navi has a VSS output from the ECU. I learned this when having to insert a VSS wire into the ECU harness to get a VSS signal for my aftermarket navi.
I'm guessing the ETA is calculated on some algorithm that uses a combination of your current speed and the speed limit of each street you'll be traveling on during your route. The GPS is probably constantly polling the sensors and updating the ETA. I wonder how much more accurate the ETA is if you have NavTraffic
The factory navi has a VSS output from the ECU. I learned this when having to insert a VSS wire into the ECU harness to get a VSS signal for my aftermarket navi.
I'm guessing the ETA is calculated on some algorithm that uses a combination of your current speed and the speed limit of each street you'll be traveling on during your route. The GPS is probably constantly polling the sensors and updating the ETA. I wonder how much more accurate the ETA is if you have NavTraffic
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I've found that when I'm going on longer trips (6-12 hours) my Nav. starts off with very wrong arrival times. It does evenutally recalculate, but sometimes not till I'm within 200 miles or so of my destination.
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Originally Posted by t_in_maine
I've found that when I'm going on longer trips (6-12 hours) my Nav. starts off with very wrong arrival times. It does evenutally recalculate, but sometimes not till I'm within 200 miles or so of my destination.
I'm just curious as to how you'd know that the arrival time is wrong? Wouldn't be surprised that the GPS can be off sometimes because of new roads/changed posted speed limits, etc.
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It definitely can take speed into account. If you lose the GPS signal, it uses the speed and gyroscopic sensor to "try" to figure out where you are and leaves "electronic bread crumb" of where you've been.
How long it takes to update ETA is another question.
How long it takes to update ETA is another question.
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Originally Posted by cestmoi
I'm just curious as to how you'd know that the arrival time is wrong? Wouldn't be surprised that the GPS can be off sometimes because of new roads/changed posted speed limits, etc.
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Originally Posted by t_in_maine
Because I've been to my brother's house in CT a ton of times, and when it tells me that it's going to take 10 hours and I know damn well it takes 8, obviously it's wrong. I still calculate the route just in case I decide to get off the highway for meals, gas, etc., I want to make sure where I'm going to get back on.
That 10hrs, I'm assuming is at the beginning of the journey, how about when you get closer? Is it still wrong?
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I like to play a game with the ETA, everytime I look over and it says I have x amount of minutes remaining. I always say "i'll show you" and try to beat it. But I always loose.
I think the ETA is pretty accurate when it readjust itself to the way you are driving, and the conditions around you. But obviously you have to keep checking it, and comparing it against the actual time that is measured in the dashboard.
On that note, Everytime I turn the car off the timer in the dashboard resets itself. Is there anyway to tell it to keep counting the time? It would be a useful features with trips that are long distance.
I think the ETA is pretty accurate when it readjust itself to the way you are driving, and the conditions around you. But obviously you have to keep checking it, and comparing it against the actual time that is measured in the dashboard.
On that note, Everytime I turn the car off the timer in the dashboard resets itself. Is there anyway to tell it to keep counting the time? It would be a useful features with trips that are long distance.
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Originally Posted by cestmoi
That 10hrs, I'm assuming is at the beginning of the journey, how about when you get closer? Is it still wrong?
As mentioned in my first post (I've found that when I'm going on longer trips (6-12 hours) my Nav. starts off with very wrong arrival times. It does evenutally recalculate, but sometimes not till I'm within 200 miles or so of my destination.)
Yes, it does eventually recalculate to the correct ETA, but it is sometimes wrong for probably 75% of the trip.
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Originally Posted by t_in_maine
I've found that when I'm going on longer trips (6-12 hours) my Nav. starts off with very wrong arrival times. It does evenutally recalculate, but sometimes not till I'm within 200 miles or so of my destination.
after reading the rest of the thread it does not make huge changes during driving, it is gradual maybe knocking off 75 minutes during a 60 minute period, nothing really too big that is noticeable
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Many Navigations also use the VSS vehicle speed sensor to determine how fast you're going. This sensor sends out X amounts of pulses per second based on how fast you're going.
The factory navi has a VSS output from the ECU. I learned this when having to insert a VSS wire into the ECU harness to get a VSS signal for my aftermarket navi.
I'm guessing the ETA is calculated on some algorithm that uses a combination of your current speed and the speed limit of each street you'll be traveling on during your route. The GPS is probably constantly polling the sensors and updating the ETA. I wonder how much more accurate the ETA is if you have NavTraffic
The factory navi has a VSS output from the ECU. I learned this when having to insert a VSS wire into the ECU harness to get a VSS signal for my aftermarket navi.
I'm guessing the ETA is calculated on some algorithm that uses a combination of your current speed and the speed limit of each street you'll be traveling on during your route. The GPS is probably constantly polling the sensors and updating the ETA. I wonder how much more accurate the ETA is if you have NavTraffic
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