Do some TSXs have felt on the windows?

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Old 12-07-2004 | 03:16 PM
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Do some TSXs have felt on the windows?

I got my SSM/6M/Ebony about a month ago. I've held off on tinting the windows in fear of the dreaded tint scratches. But today I actually looked at the window while it was down (imagine that), and it seems like there is a felt strip surrounding the window. Is the problem that the strip doesn't go all the way down into the door? Or do some owners not even have this? I'm confused. I can take photos if anyone can host them.
Old 12-07-2004 | 03:26 PM
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Comments from my tint guy about him getting the felt from Acura (his company does a lot ot work for dealers) make me think that Acura might be aware of the problem and adding it to newer builds. Not sure though.
Old 12-07-2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
I got my SSM/6M/Ebony about a month ago. I've held off on tinting the windows in fear of the dreaded tint scratches. But today I actually looked at the window while it was down (imagine that), and it seems like there is a felt strip surrounding the window. Is the problem that the strip doesn't go all the way down into the door? Or do some owners not even have this? I'm confused. I can take photos if anyone can host them.
Are you sure it is felt and not just the regular rubber seal?
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:15 PM
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It's definitely felt. I'm going to take some pictures. If anyone can host them, let me know. It's getting dark here, so I'll try to hurry!
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:22 PM
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OK, I've got the photos. They actually turned out nice using a flash. You can clearly see the strip of felt. Someone who can host let me know and I'll get them to you. Thanks!
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
OK, I've got the photos. They actually turned out nice using a flash. You can clearly see the strip of felt. Someone who can host let me know and I'll get them to you. Thanks!
Why don't you sign up for photobucket and host them there. Its free.

http://www.photobucket.com/
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:28 PM
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Old 12-07-2004 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks Jaydub. I just sent you the photos.

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Old 12-07-2004 | 04:42 PM
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Old 12-07-2004 | 04:44 PM
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i have that and it still sratches a bit
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:45 PM
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someone should put that on a big sticky or something

any way, the tint guy was over here last night. he does commerical stuff and is going to tint our windows on the house, and two of our cars (my tsx n my dads gulf) well ontop of deciding what % to get, (the limit is 30 front 25 rear, n i want the same thing all around). the guy said that most tints he sells have some ammount of metal in them. and ontop of it he looked at my seals n said theyre fine, nice n wide so i shouldnt get scratches or loose radio reception. tho he did go on to say that someone ina G35 that he did with simliar stuff, probably the more reflective said lost radio. but non of his vehcials hes done have ever scratched.

hmmm i dunno if its the product he uses, product grade, or if its just they dont get it? im gunna hafta clean my things more often, right now its really dirty. and i have a good feeling that its cuz i always have my windows open. i didnt even realize how much stuff gets down there
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Is that on the outside of the window? I have the felt too but it's on the outside...
Old 12-07-2004 | 04:56 PM
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Found this pic over on the TL site. It shows the rubber seal and it has two parts a upper wipe and a lower wipe part with the mole skin:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...54&postcount=7
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:04 PM
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Nope, that is on the inside. Does anyone else have this and, if so, does your tint scratch?

**I stand corrected. From outside to inside, the materials are:

felt--> glass--> rubber seal

I suppose this felt would indeed do nothing to protect the tint from the inside of door!
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
Nope, that is on the inside. Does anyone else have this and, if so, does your tint scratch?

**I stand corrected. From outside to inside, the materials are:

felt--> glass--> rubber seal

I suppose this felt would indeed do nothing to protect the tint from the inside of door!
I picked my car up the end of May and it has the felt on the outside edge also and none on the inside
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:23 PM
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is it easy to put ure own mole skin on? is the stuff cheap, like can i find it at home depot or something like that?

hmmm cuz now im startin to think i dont want this guy puttin tints on my car w.o it
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:37 PM
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Here's the link to the thread over on the TL site about the moleskin installation:

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/naperville-il-here-i-come-97358/
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
Nope, that is on the inside. Does anyone else have this and, if so, does your tint scratch?

**I stand corrected. From outside to inside, the materials are:

felt--> glass--> rubber seal

I suppose this felt would indeed do nothing to protect the tint from the inside of door!
yeah i have it and yes it scratches i was lucky the first scratch was really bad and the tint had glue and i had it redone for free, but now there are little scratches you dont really notice it
Old 12-07-2004 | 05:45 PM
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I will probably just have mine tinted without the moleskin. In a car that is already prone to creaks and rattles, I sure don't want Joe Schmoe taking off my door panels. Plus I've got a lease and don't need somebody screwing something up! I still have no clue why they would have felt outside the window, but not inside. So everyone's car is set up like this?
Old 12-07-2004 | 08:45 PM
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hmm, this simple project of adding moleskin just seems to grow ever larger..... hmmm this is gunna be a weekend project
Old 12-07-2004 | 08:59 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=felt

I posted this earlier and there were pics, but photobucket won't let my hotlink anymore because I went over my limit. Still no scratches on the tint.
Old 12-07-2004 | 10:15 PM
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with all this problem with not having the felt in the inside .. we can probably talk to the dealer and get the work done under warranty. This could be concidered a design defect, so it's possible.
Old 12-07-2004 | 10:18 PM
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All are designed alike, none of the TSXs are installed with special felts.

Anyways, two month after my tint installation, I'm beginning to see fine vertical scratches on my driver side, however the scratches you hear of are quite exagerrated. It's barely noticeable.
Old 12-07-2004 | 11:35 PM
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yea i understand that all design are alike. What i'm saying is that the design itself could be a design defect becuase it's causing fine scratches on the inside windows. So that why i was injecting the idea of having the felt put in as a waranty work becuase of design defect.
Old 12-08-2004 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by xaznperswaesonx
yea i understand that all design are alike. What i'm saying is that the design itself could be a design defect becuase it's causing fine scratches on the inside windows. So that why i was injecting the idea of having the felt put in as a waranty work becuase of design defect.
Unlikely. The window seals are designed to work just fine on the car as it's delivered from the factory. The glass window won't scratch as a result of this design. The problem is that this design does not work well with an aftermarket tint material (that scratches much more easily than the glass window). Acura isn't responsible for making the car compatible with that aftermarket enhancement. (That said, I think it's pretty dumb not to design for compatibility with something as common as tinting film...)
Old 12-08-2004 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by VeniceBeachTSX
Unlikely. The window seals are designed to work just fine on the car as it's delivered from the factory. The glass window won't scratch as a result of this design. The problem is that this design does not work well with an aftermarket tint material (that scratches much more easily than the glass window). Acura isn't responsible for making the car compatible with that aftermarket enhancement. (That said, I think it's pretty dumb not to design for compatibility with something as common as tinting film...)
yet i kinda don't. I already have fine scratches vertically on both my front windows on the inside. but more on my driver side window and i have no tint what so ever. so if we all complain enough .. we might be able to get something done. LETS START A PETITION!
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