Updated 2005 review, names the TSX and TL best buys in their segments.

http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/n...x.cfm/id/38061

The TSX got the highest test score in the category (and, granted, Consumer Guide's numerical indices are pretty suspect) - ahead of the BMW 3 series, Audi A4, Saab 9-3, MB C-class, etc.

 

Nice. They mention a TSX Wagon...

 

And they also mention nothing big on the horizon; that's good for current owners. Shouldn't be too much "jealousy" when the couple MYs come out.

 

i'm glad they give props to acuras, but difficult nav system control? morons....

guess they had to whine about something.

 

I think the point was that the Nav does complicate adjustments by absorbing some HVAC and sound controls. Not a big issue, of course, but an issue nonetheless.

 

Interior space did not change, yet they deducted one point from 2004 model.
Is the XM reciever that big?

Huh?

 

They also added points for "value." it is not a totally objective test, and the scores are determined by some system that they don't release. Like I said, I'm not convinced by their numerical scores at all.

 

I noticed they listed the invoice price on the site.

$24,602-26,423 (not including destination)

Can anyone confirm this?

 

That sounds about right to me.

 

TSX owners with the Navi, do you use voice prompts alot? I know that I am going to buy one with navi, but was curious how often most people actually use the voice prompts. Does it miss understand you very often? I noticed that they mentioned that in there test, just curious.

 

But every Nav system on the market does that, to some extent. And besides, with the accuracy of the voice commands, you might as well control it using voice recognition.

 

Not true. For example, the Nissan/Infiniti systems don't do that at all. Besides, I think it is reasonable for CG to at least raise the issue.

Personally, I'd rather have real buttons instead of menus, but I don't find the system hard to live with at all.

JWB - I suspect that these frequent media reports about the Nav not doing a good job of recognizing commands has more to do with testers not knowing the commands then anything else. If you use the right commands, and speak clearly, 9 times out of 10, it will go as expected.

 

...and 1 time out of 10, it will mistakenly pop the hood when you ask it to change the radio station.

 

I have only had mine a week but from my experience so far: Pain in the a$$. U have to hit the button, which shuts off your radio & turns down the AC, then you have to speak slowly & clearly, a few seconds pass, then it repeats the command back to you {half the time incorrectly} & then performs the function. For someone as impatient as I am, it would have been a lot faster & easier just to hit the button manaully on the console. Plus, I have not had the time to learn the proper commands yet but still ...

 

if u use japanese in your commands, theres almost no chance of miscommunication. it's a language barrier kinda thang.

 

haha, do japanese voice commands work?, that would be awesome