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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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I am finally in the market for my first new car. I have had sporty cars since I could drive, but they where all used (89 Mustang GT, 92 SE-R, and 00 Contour SVT). My wife and I have tested lots of new cars in the sub $30,000, including a TSX (but didn't drive one due to no 6 spd on the lot, a stick is a must have for me). I had my heart set on a new 2005 Subaru Legacy 2005 GT Limited. When my bible arrived at my door, I saw the comparision test with the Subaru. I quickly turned to the test with the A4, TSX, S40, and the 2.5 GT. What? The Subaru in 3rd place?? It seems that the TSX cleaned up, top both the fun to drive and the got to have contests. I got to drive a 6 spd the other day and I was sold. It is a lot nicer car then the 2.5 GT. It reminded me a lot of my old SE-R, with the quick reving engine that is very rewarding. I have decided to wait for a 05 for the XM (I was going to retro fit it anyway like I did in my current Jeep) and the power passenger seat that my wife loves. I have enjoyed reading your site, and will be back often.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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That's great news.

Did you see the discussion we have going on the article here: http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14799

What color do you think you're going to get?
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Welcome to the site!!
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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I guess you didn't hear that Honda bribed C&D with advertising revenues to bump up the TSX


j/k - welcome to the site
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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Sorry to repost the same descusion. I think that I will go with the dark gray. Color I haven't nailed down yet thinking they may come out with a new color or two. It will for sure be 6MT with navigation. I have enjoyed reading the pros and cons to the navigation on the site.

Do you already have a descusion going about the Road & Track artical on the 2.5 GT VS. TSX?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jwb998
Sorry to repost the same descusion. I think that I will go with the dark gray. Color I haven't nailed down yet thinking they may come out with a new color or two. It will for sure be 6MT with navigation. I have enjoyed reading the pros and cons to the navigation on the site.

Do you already have a descusion going about the Road & Track artical on the 2.5 GT VS. TSX?
CG is sweet. You'll have many friends here.

We had a discussion on the R&T article but we had to close it because there were to many subaru fanboys from a LGT forum that came here to stir the pot. The discussion was going in circles so it was closed. There's still some good reading in there if you want to check it out: http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14507
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Welcome to the site! Let us know how it goes.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jwb998
Sorry to repost the same descusion. I think that I will go with the dark gray. Color I haven't nailed down yet thinking they may come out with a new color or two. It will for sure be 6MT with navigation. I have enjoyed reading the pros and cons to the navigation on the site.

Do you already have a descusion going about the Road & Track artical on the 2.5 GT VS. TSX?
The CG is a great choice, but there are one too many of them in the road.

Also, here are the linkies:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=624068

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1572818
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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I'm glad this didn't turn into a LGT vs. TSX thread.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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SUB ARU rules
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jwb998
I am finally in the market for my first new car. I have had sporty cars since I could drive, but they where all used (89 Mustang GT, 92 SE-R, and 00 Contour SVT). My wife and I have tested lots of new cars in the sub $30,000, including a TSX (but didn't drive one due to no 6 spd on the lot, a stick is a must have for me). I had my heart set on a new 2005 Subaru Legacy 2005 GT Limited. When my bible arrived at my door, I saw the comparision test with the Subaru. I quickly turned to the test with the A4, TSX, S40, and the 2.5 GT. What? The Subaru in 3rd place?? It seems that the TSX cleaned up, top both the fun to drive and the got to have contests. I got to drive a 6 spd the other day and I was sold. It is a lot nicer car then the 2.5 GT. It reminded me a lot of my old SE-R, with the quick reving engine that is very rewarding. I have decided to wait for a 05 for the XM (I was going to retro fit it anyway like I did in my current Jeep) and the power passenger seat that my wife loves. I have enjoyed reading your site, and will be back often.
Thanks!
I think the C & D review tagged the TSX accurately when they noted the fun factor in driving it - by the numbers, it is not the fastest in the lot, but the modifications to the fwd really undercut classic fwd understeer, and make this car very nimble and responsive on the road. The article was an interesting one in matrixing four vehicles under $30K; the Audi A4 is pretty sweet if you option for the bigger engine and awd, but then the sticker price is well above the article's cap. I drove all four vehicles listed in the article before leasing a TSX; came to the same conclusion as C & D - daily "fun factor" won out over raw numbers - that plus a very posh interior (find the Subaru to be tacky on the inside, visually dumb on the outside).
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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I came to the TSX from an SVT Contour, also.

The SVT seemed to handle a bit better, however, it rode like an ox cart with wood wheels (and the tire noise to match).

Power actually seemed very similar. Both rated at 200HP, one 2.4L and the other 2.5L. The 6 speed is a nice addition to the TSX.

The SVT also had the worst "premium" sound system I ever heard. Not even close to TSX.

Looking back at the SVT (which I had for about 4 years and 90K miles), that car was pretty sweet. It really was a fun car. To bad Ford doesn't build anything with 4 doors worth owning anymore. Quality and durability were pretty bad, but it was fun.

Bottom line is if you liked the SVT, you will LOVE the TSX. (may need some summer perf. tires to rip thru the corners as well, however).
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb998
I have decided to wait for a 05 for the XM (I was going to retro fit it anyway like I did in my current Jeep) and the power passenger seat that my wife loves. I have enjoyed reading your site, and will be back often.
Thanks!
You won't be disappointed going with the TSX. Hey I used to drive a Jeep too...2000 Grand Cherokee...05's get standard power passenger seat and XM?? DAH!
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