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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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The break-in period is over...

...and it's time to have some fun. On my way home from Gaithersburg this evening, I finally passed the 600 mile mark after babying the TSX. Finally took the opportunity to hit VTEC and boy was I surprised.

My first run to VTEC was in 2nd gear headed up on a slight grade and to my surprise, the front actually broke loose for a moment upon hitting VTEC. This totally caught me by surprise and made me do a . Might have been a wet patch or something...

A couple more runs up to VTEC gave me a pretty good first impression of how the car will perform in the future. The TSX definitely feels much quicker and provides a strong pull when up in VTEC. The transition is absolutely seamless except for the sudden strong sense of acceleration.

More impressions to come when I take the car out again on Monday.

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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Sweet, let the other 04/05 owners know if there really is more power =)
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Since your previous TSX was an AT its not an apples-to-apples comparison, but, how does the power of the 06 compare to a hondata reflashed 04?
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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the front actually broke loose for a moment
what you mean ?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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What is VTEC supposed to feel like anyhow? I don't sense any sudden jump in power when I WOT to redline. I watch the tach and look for it but I'm not getting the "automotive orgasm" that others have made VTEC engagement out to be. I'm not saying it feels slow, but it doesn't feel thrown-back-in-your-seat-screaming-in-joy-omg-yes-yes-yes you know?

... And yes, I do have an AT, but still I redline it in 3rd more often than I should.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by huckleberry
what you mean ?
He means he spun the front (drive) wheels.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
...and it's time to have some fun. On my way home from Gaithersburg this evening, I finally passed the 600 mile mark after babying the TSX. Finally took the opportunity to hit VTEC and boy was I surprised.

My first run to VTEC was in 2nd gear headed up on a slight grade and to my surprise, the front actually broke loose for a moment upon hitting VTEC. This totally caught me by surprise and made me do a . Might have been a wet patch or something...

A couple more runs up to VTEC gave me a pretty good first impression of how the car will perform in the future. The TSX definitely feels much quicker and provides a strong pull when up in VTEC. The transition is absolutely seamless except for the sudden strong sense of acceleration.

More impressions to come when I take the car out again on Monday.

I wonder how much the difference in power feel is because you're now driving the 6 MT versus the 5 AT.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Since your previous TSX was an AT its not an apples-to-apples comparison, but, how does the power of the 06 compare to a hondata reflashed 04?
Thats what I'm interested in too
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Since your previous TSX was an AT its not an apples-to-apples comparison, but, how does the power of the 06 compare to a hondata reflashed 04?
Yeah, I realize that.

As for the power comparison, I would say the powerband below VTEC feels very similar to the Hondata'd powerband on my 04 except that the Hondata allowed VTEC to kick in at 5k rpms so the power came on a little earlier. However, at the top, the 06 provides a noticeable improvement in power over the 6k rpm to redline of my 04.

Overall, I would say the power increase is very apparent and while not a "dramatic" increase, gives the car some of the power that people felt was lacking before. If nothing else, this easily gives the TSX power parity with the Mazda 6s.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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CGTSX2004,

When does VTEC kick in for an auto transmission?

Glad to hear that you are done with your engine break-in period.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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The point VTEC kicks in is not transmission related (same for AT & MT)
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
The point VTEC kicks in is not transmission related (same for AT & MT)
I did little bit of research and VTEC is Honda technology which squeezes everything out of the engine, very efficient. I know little more now.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
The point VTEC kicks in is not transmission related (same for AT & MT)
Yup. Same 6000 rpm VTEC changeover point.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Yeah, I realize that.

As for the power comparison, I would say the powerband below VTEC feels very similar to the Hondata'd powerband on my 04 except that the Hondata allowed VTEC to kick in at 5k rpms so the power came on a little earlier. However, at the top, the 06 provides a noticeable improvement in power over the 6k rpm to redline of my 04.
That doesn't surprise me since the '06 uses a bigger intake (and exhaust?) high-cam and higher-flow head/intake manifold, so when it's in VTEC it should be stronger than even the hondata'd '04. I wonder if they dialed in any additional cam duration as well (w.r.t. the hondata article advocating 45-deg vs. 25-deg max).
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
That doesn't surprise me since the '06 uses a bigger intake (and exhaust?) high-cam and higher-flow head/intake manifold, so when it's in VTEC it should be stronger than even the hondata'd '04. I wonder if they dialed in any additional cam duration as well (w.r.t. the hondata article advocating 45-deg vs. 25-deg max).
Not sure if they did or not, but I can definitely tell that the car is more powerful and I would not be surprised if the MT dynoed out at nearly 12/13 more whp than the 04 model at peak power.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Not sure if they did or not, but I can definitely tell that the car is more powerful and I would not be surprised if the MT dynoed out at nearly 12/13 more whp than the 04 model at peak power.
Stop it. You're making me jealous.
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