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Old 05-20-2010, 09:06 PM
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Best tires for balance of performance and wear?

I just put on a new set of Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grids on my new-to-me '07 TSX. In the 2 weeks I've had them, so far so good. Still, I have to ask...

The car will spend 80% of it's time on highways. I'm not interested in replacing tires too often, but it seems like an insult not to put a decent performance tire on the car.

What do you all recommend for long-wearing performance?
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michelin primacy MXV4 trust me theres a reason michelins cost more than goodyears or any other brand..and i drive my car at least 80mph on the freeway consistanly it wears nice i replaced them after 5 yrs
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I've had my Bridgestone Pole Positions (960A/S) on now for 3 or 4 years, and they still have a ton of tread life left. Granted, I change them out for snow tires every winter, but I still did not expect this much life out of them since they are a higher performance tire, which don't usually last as long. I've been pleased with these tires.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
I've had my Bridgestone Pole Positions (960A/S) on now for 3 or 4 years, and they still have a ton of tread life left. Granted, I change them out for snow tires every winter, but I still did not expect this much life out of them since they are a higher performance tire, which don't usually last as long. I've been pleased with these tires.
+1

I had them on my '01 325Ci and love them. They give you fantastic handling, great tread wear, and are very quiet. I will put them on my '05 TSX when it's time to ditch these Yokohama's.
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bridgestones are good on handling but mileage wise they do not last long. I do mostly highway driving. I now have Yokohama Avid 4-s tires-hate them-never again. I am probably one of the very few that like the original OEM Michelin tires/ Had 74,000 miles when I replaced them.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
bridgestones are good on handling but mileage wise they do not last long.
That's quite a blanket-statement you make.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....+Pole+Position

I've typically seen Bridgestone have great ratings as far as tread-wear is concerned. Trying to get 74K miles out of a tire sounds like a stretch to me. If a set of tires can even last 45K miles, at an average 15K-mi/year, a set of four Bridgestone Pole Positions ($620 per tirerack.com) would cost you an average of $207/yr. That's a good price for high-quality tires.
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Originally Posted by GWEEDOspeedo
That's quite a blanket-statement you make.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....+Pole+Position

I've typically seen Bridgestone have great ratings as far as tread-wear is concerned. Trying to get 74K miles out of a tire sounds like a stretch to me. If a set of tires can even last 45K miles, at an average 15K-mi/year, a set of four Bridgestone Pole Positions ($620 per tirerack.com) would cost you an average of $207/yr. That's a good price for high-quality tires.
We had bridgestone poles on our 98 eagle talon tsi-awd-we were lucky to get 30,000 miles on them. We get our tires rotated and balanced regularly-along with checking the tire pressure. When we replaced the tires at 74,000 miles the thread wear was 4/32 on all 4 tires. One of the main reasons we changed them was we were going on a almost 10,000 mile road trip It was May 09 and we drove in snow in some of the states (montana, wyoming,)I am going by personal experience. I also drive about 30,000 miles a year

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tirerack.com is your best bet to check out the specs and reviews. IMO the Kumho Solus KH16's or General Altimax HP are the best blend of both.
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Thanks for the advice. And thanks for your patience with a noob. It wasn't until after I posted that I realized there was an entire forum just for tires.
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I think it really depends on how much performance you want. In order to get performance, you're going to need a relatively soft compound. To get better tread-wear, you're going to need a relatively hard compound.

For an all-season tire, the Bridgestone 960AS is probably the best blend of performance and tread-wear IMHO. Any tire with better tread-wear is probably going to be inferior to the 960AS in terms of handling -- if not, please let me know!

I ran the OEM Michelins for about a year, and then they started to squeal and slip consistently from 1st gear. I switched to Yoko A4S and liked them a lot, but then I had two sidewall failures after ~20k. Then I switched to Bridgestone 940AS and got ~35k out of them with no problems. Because I live in NorCal and don't drive in freezing temperatures, I decided to try Bridgestone 760s, and they've been awesome so far. Obviously, I don't expect them to have the tread-wear of the 960s, but they're less expensive, and their dry traction is superior (the wet traction is ok but definitely inferior to the 960s).

Bottom-line: it's all about trade-offs, and you need to decide whether performance or tread-life is more important.
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It's important to take other things into consideration also. Will the tires be seeing any snow? How much rain? A tire that has good wet traction might not do as well on dry pavement. A summer tire is going to hydroplane much more easily.

The stealership put new Fuzion VRi meats on. They are cheaper, but according to Tire rack, they aren't too shabby. So far I like them just fine, although I have never had a sporty car before so I have nothing to compare to.

For highway driving, I would choose a tire with low road noise since our cars are a little on the loud side (for a luxury car).
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My CPO had new Falken Ziex 912's on her when I took delivery, seem to be a good all season compromise.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
We had bridgestone poles on our 98 eagle talon tsi-awd-we were lucky to get 30,000 miles on them. We get our tires rotated and balanced regularly-along with checking the tire pressure. When we replaced the tires at 74,000 miles the thread wear was 4/32 on all 4 tires. One of the main reasons we changed them was we were going on a almost 10,000 mile road trip It was May 09 and we drove in snow in some of the states (montana, wyoming,)I am going by personal experience. I also drive about 30,000 miles a year
The Diamond Star cars were notorious for premature tire wear. I had a Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX for over 10 years, (mechanically identical to the Talon TSI), and I went through many sets of tires, opting for higher tread wear ratings as I went along -- and never getting anywhere near what was expected. I did not bomb through corners, or drive at high speeds, (usually ) it's just the nature of that front-heavy car. Additionally, the higher speed ratings of the tires for a Talon TSI and Eclipse GSX, (required for a car with a top speed of 145 mph)...those tires are much softer and wear much faster than those needed for a TSX.

So, my point is that the tires wear for that particular car is without question not a good benchmark for any tire.

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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
I've had my Bridgestone Pole Positions (960A/S) on now for 3 or 4 years, and they still have a ton of tread life left. Granted, I change them out for snow tires every winter, but I still did not expect this much life out of them since they are a higher performance tire, which don't usually last as long. I've been pleased with these tires.
you do snow tires in NJ?

my tire guy has me on hankooks. can't remember the model. he said they should last significantly longer than my last set, which i think was goodyears. i think he likes the bridgestones also.
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Originally Posted by GWEEDOspeedo
That's quite a blanket-statement you make.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....+Pole+Position

I've typically seen Bridgestone have great ratings as far as tread-wear is concerned. Trying to get 74K miles out of a tire sounds like a stretch to me. If a set of tires can even last 45K miles, at an average 15K-mi/year, a set of four Bridgestone Pole Positions ($620 per tirerack.com) would cost you an average of $207/yr. That's a good price for high-quality tires.
very true. tires shouldn't be going more than 45-50k unless you live in the flatlands. if you're in hilly pennsylvania or stop and go northern jersey like me, you're happy to get 50,000 miles!
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Another vote for the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position...

In the process of getting the tires rotated when the right rear tire got a sidewall puncture .

I got a pair to replace the rears that was going to the front and kept the other good rear to be used as a spare.

Between 30k+ miles not even half tread wear.
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Don't forget that tread life is also affected by worn suspension. My old suspension was causing cupping on tires for example, even though the car was being aligned regularly.
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Originally Posted by bradykp
very true. tires shouldn't be going more than 45-50k unless you live in the flatlands. if you're in hilly pennsylvania or stop and go northern jersey like me, you're happy to get 50,000 miles!
When we had the Bridgestones-we were living in "the Pocono's" and I worked near Blairstown, NJ (also lived there for 14 years) Never found the need for a "snow" tire. The all season tires worked for me. (many days driving the hills in the snow)

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ahhhh. the poconos! where abouts?

if it was closer to the lehigh valley, that's not really the poconos. even stroudsberg, which is the poconos, is relatively flat compared to further up in northeast PA. the hills and braking destroys tires and brakes.
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Originally Posted by bradykp
ahhhh. the poconos! where abouts?

if it was closer to the lehigh valley, that's not really the poconos. even stroudsberg, which is the poconos, is relatively flat compared to further up in northeast PA. the hills and braking destroys tires and brakes.
yes you are correct we lived in the flatlands of the Pocono's (east stroudsburg) but traveling from our home to get to the mall area we traveled on Chippenfield Drive-a very twisty, curvy, hilly road. (numerous accidents of driver's not used to it driving too fast and failing to negotiate the turns. The place where I worked (frelinghuysen township) was on a hill. When it snowed, I just hoped no vehicles stopped on the route 94. I loved traveling on 80 thru the delaware water gap especially in the early morning hours before too much traffic.
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