Acura TSX vs. Bmw 325i vs. Mercedes C230 Kompressor
#41
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
From Motor Trend comparison test:
Acura TSX vs. Saab 9-3 Arc vs. Mercedes-Benz C230 Kompressor Sedan.
Acura TSX vs. Saab 9-3 Arc vs. Mercedes-Benz C230 Kompressor Sedan.
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Dont see the point in the 325...ill just get the 330xi i think with all wheel drive..or is there a big price difference between the 2 models
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Despite the fact with my money to spend, I'd buy the Acura TSX -- I found the C230's driving experience to be superior.
But it is true... it is your money, buy what makes you happy.
But it is true... it is your money, buy what makes you happy.
#45
Originally Posted by TonyFresh
Dont see the point in the 325...ill just get the 330xi i think with all wheel drive..or is there a big price difference between the 2 models
#48
Originally Posted by domn
Between a 325 it should be a driver's race. I havn't seen times for a 325 below the 15's or less than 7 sec to 60 which is right where the TSX is.
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Bimmer, C-class and TSXs are fine cars. I would love to own all three. Unfortunately I can only choose one that fits my need. Out of all three TSX gives me the best gas millage for my everyday long ass driving. and its power is comparible to the other two (almost). AND HID!!!!!!
#51
Originally Posted by mickey513
Could be on the streets but not on a straight line. Hands down the 325 is a faster car, RWD, Inline 6, and both weigh about the same.
And what does being an I-6 have to do with it?
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The TSX did go up against the C230 and was quicker to 60 and through the 1/4 mile. Although the Benz won the test mainly because of the "3 pointed star".
As for the 325, it has been tested against a TL so I'd venture to guess that the price difference between it and the TSX is too great for mags to consider them competitors. For the most part anyway.
As for the 325, it has been tested against a TL so I'd venture to guess that the price difference between it and the TSX is too great for mags to consider them competitors. For the most part anyway.
#55
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
People have posted timeslips showing that the TSX is easily a competitor for the 325 in a straight line.
There's no way in the world I'd trade my TSX for a 325 (or a TL or a C230 or a G35) - I chose the TSX over all of these, obviously not on performance alone, and money was not the issue.
Personally, I just chuckle at people that are buying the current gen 325, even if they can get it for the same price. Sure, it's a nice enough car, but you get so much more with the TSX and hardly give up any performance. The new 325 equivalent series will put BMW back on top (except for looks). I'm sure magazines will compare the upcoming 1-series to the TSX instead, because of the price.
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#58
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Like what?
Test it out on BMWUSA, price out a 325i with every thing TSX has, your well over 30K
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CDN $52,095, actually, which translates into USD $42,352
Oh, and that includes the leather, the harmon kardon sound system with the CD changer, the sport package (because you can't get 17" wheels without the sport package), the auto tranny (a no cost option on the TSX in 2004), lumbar support (I can't believe you have to pay for this), the premium package (to get the sunroof).
The only thing that the BMW has that the TSX doesn't is memory for the drivers seat.
Oh, and that includes the leather, the harmon kardon sound system with the CD changer, the sport package (because you can't get 17" wheels without the sport package), the auto tranny (a no cost option on the TSX in 2004), lumbar support (I can't believe you have to pay for this), the premium package (to get the sunroof).
The only thing that the BMW has that the TSX doesn't is memory for the drivers seat.
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325i Starts @ $29,300
- Leather Seats - ADD $1450
- Heated Seats ADD $500
- Pwr seats w/mem ADD $995
- Fold down rear seats ADD $475 (Can't believe you have to pay for this )
- Xeons ADD $700
- 17" rims ADD $1400
- AT add $1275
- 6 Disc CD ADD $595
- Navigation ADD $1800
- Leather Seats - ADD $1450
- Heated Seats ADD $500
- Pwr seats w/mem ADD $995
- Fold down rear seats ADD $475 (Can't believe you have to pay for this )
- Xeons ADD $700
- 17" rims ADD $1400
- AT add $1275
- 6 Disc CD ADD $595
- Navigation ADD $1800
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
CDN $52,095, actually, which translates into USD $42,352
Oh, and that includes the leather, the harmon kardon sound system with the CD changer, the sport package (because you can't get 17" wheels without the sport package), the auto tranny (a no cost option on the TSX in 2004), lumbar support (I can't believe you have to pay for this), the premium package (to get the sunroof).
The only thing that the BMW has that the TSX doesn't is memory for the drivers seat.
Oh, and that includes the leather, the harmon kardon sound system with the CD changer, the sport package (because you can't get 17" wheels without the sport package), the auto tranny (a no cost option on the TSX in 2004), lumbar support (I can't believe you have to pay for this), the premium package (to get the sunroof).
The only thing that the BMW has that the TSX doesn't is memory for the drivers seat.
My BMW is a Special Edition and comes with a rebate of 3000$, compared to a regular built 325i. Instead of 48000$, it is about 44600$. I got it at 42300$. Of course, it is more expensive than TSX, even more than a discounted TL 6-sp., but consider a 3.5% financing, a high residual (26722$ after 39mo) and maintenance included, and on a 39 or 42 lease, it is cheaper than both TSX/TL! A 42mo lease at 5.8% on a 5% discounted TSX is 590$/mo. A TL would be 710$. My Bimmer will cost me 580$... maintenance included!
I have been very well served by my previous Honda, and I am an admirer of TSX and TL, but I also felt that it was time to try something else.
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I got to test drive both a 325 and the TSX at a driving event. I put both cars through their paces, so much that I almost got kicked out of the event. Granted the BMW had a more "grounded" feeling, but still the TSX was more fun to drive. The fact that the TSX wanted to really rev in the higher-end really made it want to go. Sure the 325 had that "immediate" punch, but it fizzled right around 3500 to 4000 rpms.
I do have to agree that there are amazing lease possibilities w/the 325i, but you also have to remember what some have been saying as well, BMW wants to move these cars before the next gen comes in.
In the end, I opted to lease my TSX as opposed to the BMW. Even though BMW had a pretty good lease going on at the time that I leased my car, I still chose the TSX. For me it was the total package: value for my money, reliability of the brand, and just general fun-to-drive factor in this car. For those nay-sayers that stress V6s and I6s overshadow the I4 of the TSX, I call shenanigans! I came from an accord V6, and my TSX does not feel underpowered at all. If you want that "sound" of the V6, there are mods out there that you can do that will make the TSX "sound" better.
I do have to agree that there are amazing lease possibilities w/the 325i, but you also have to remember what some have been saying as well, BMW wants to move these cars before the next gen comes in.
In the end, I opted to lease my TSX as opposed to the BMW. Even though BMW had a pretty good lease going on at the time that I leased my car, I still chose the TSX. For me it was the total package: value for my money, reliability of the brand, and just general fun-to-drive factor in this car. For those nay-sayers that stress V6s and I6s overshadow the I4 of the TSX, I call shenanigans! I came from an accord V6, and my TSX does not feel underpowered at all. If you want that "sound" of the V6, there are mods out there that you can do that will make the TSX "sound" better.
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I wouldn't buy a BMW with my money... but...
Can someone post proof saying the TSX is faster than the BMW? A fair comparison, too.. no 6MT TSX VS. Auto 325i...
With the TSX in the high 8 to low 9 second range 0-60 and barely being able to pull off a 1/4 mile time in the 16s, automatic of course, I call on anyone who believes the auto TSX is quicker than the auto 325i.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong. I drive a 2005 (traded in the 03) Accord EX-V6 Coupe, and I must say, if the TSX had THIS engine, it would be an unbeatable bargain. But my recent test drive of an automatic TSX left a whole lot to be desired in terms of power. The TSX handled better, of course, but when you do a lot of highway driving on the interstate, the punch of the V6 is more important.
Can someone post proof saying the TSX is faster than the BMW? A fair comparison, too.. no 6MT TSX VS. Auto 325i...
With the TSX in the high 8 to low 9 second range 0-60 and barely being able to pull off a 1/4 mile time in the 16s, automatic of course, I call on anyone who believes the auto TSX is quicker than the auto 325i.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong. I drive a 2005 (traded in the 03) Accord EX-V6 Coupe, and I must say, if the TSX had THIS engine, it would be an unbeatable bargain. But my recent test drive of an automatic TSX left a whole lot to be desired in terms of power. The TSX handled better, of course, but when you do a lot of highway driving on the interstate, the punch of the V6 is more important.
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
I wouldn't buy a BMW with my money... but...
Can someone post proof saying the TSX is faster than the BMW? A fair comparison, too.. no 6MT TSX VS. Auto 325i...
With the TSX in the high 8 to low 9 second range 0-60 and barely being able to pull off a 1/4 mile time in the 16s, automatic of course, I call on anyone who believes the auto TSX is quicker than the auto 325i.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong. I drive a 2005 (traded in the 03) Accord EX-V6 Coupe, and I must say, if the TSX had THIS engine, it would be an unbeatable bargain. But my recent test drive of an automatic TSX left a whole lot to be desired in terms of power. The TSX handled better, of course, but when you do a lot of highway driving on the interstate, the punch of the V6 is more important.
Can someone post proof saying the TSX is faster than the BMW? A fair comparison, too.. no 6MT TSX VS. Auto 325i...
With the TSX in the high 8 to low 9 second range 0-60 and barely being able to pull off a 1/4 mile time in the 16s, automatic of course, I call on anyone who believes the auto TSX is quicker than the auto 325i.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong. I drive a 2005 (traded in the 03) Accord EX-V6 Coupe, and I must say, if the TSX had THIS engine, it would be an unbeatable bargain. But my recent test drive of an automatic TSX left a whole lot to be desired in terms of power. The TSX handled better, of course, but when you do a lot of highway driving on the interstate, the punch of the V6 is more important.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=65
That post shows that without any preloading of the torque converter in the automatic, the auto tranny TSX makes it in the 16 sec range. And this is a completely novice driver at the strip. We some preloading, the TSX will be solidly in the 16 sec range.
And just for comparison...
BMW E46 325i Automatic :
Power : 192hp, 141Kw @ 6000rpm
Torque : 245Nm
0-100km/h : 8.4sec
Top speed : 237km/h
That's not much, if any quicker, than a TSX.
#71
Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
You forgot that the TSX has more HP.
And what does being an I-6 have to do with it?
And what does being an I-6 have to do with it?
#72
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Originally Posted by mickey513
WOW, 8 MORE. Don't forget, it's FWD compare to the 325i's RWD. And what does a Inline 6 have to do with it????? Guess you must be happy with that 4 cylinder and 161 lbs of torque in the upper end.
The two cars are very similar in performance. BMW's website quotes the 325i's 0-60 in 7.6 seconds vs 7.2 for the TSX.
The 325 has 184hp and 175 lb ft and weighs 3212 lbs without sunroof or other accessories. A sunroof alone can add 80-100lbs.
The tsx is 200hp and 166 lb ft and weighs 3230 or 3241 with navi.
I'd say it's a drivers race but I'd still put my money on the TSX.
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Originally Posted by iamhomin
How the heck did you get that kind of deal????
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Originally Posted by mickey513
Correct me if I'm wrong but 16.92 in the 1/4 mile = faster than a 325i???????
#75
Oh my God, just the simple fact that we're sitting down and comparing a 6-cylinder BMW against the 4-cylinder TSX already shows that Acura has made an excellent car (i.e. the TSX).
I don't even know why people spend money to get the 3-series. They're way overpriced and look all alike on the road.
With the RD-X on its way, BMW now has another strong competitor for its X3/X5 utility. I simply love the fact that Acura usually makes 1 vehicle which competes with an entire line of BMW autos. I guess you can call that the "Japanese" way to compete, simple and effective.
I don't even know why people spend money to get the 3-series. They're way overpriced and look all alike on the road.
With the RD-X on its way, BMW now has another strong competitor for its X3/X5 utility. I simply love the fact that Acura usually makes 1 vehicle which competes with an entire line of BMW autos. I guess you can call that the "Japanese" way to compete, simple and effective.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
cool! let's see it!