2008 TSX confirmed
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2008 TSX confirmed
Remember that red concept car we've seen in the past?
Edmunds has confirmed that the Sports 4 Concept will be the next TSX.
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...w..leftnav.8.*
Edmunds has confirmed that the Sports 4 Concept will be the next TSX.
TOKYO — Visitors to the international auto show here are getting a sneak preview of the next-generation Honda Accord for Japan and Europe — and the next Acura TSX for North America.
The Honda Sports 4 concept sedan now is described by company insiders as an accurate precursor of the redesigned Accord. The new Accord will go into production in mid-2007 in Japan and will be sold in Europe and China. North American customers, however, will get a different design about the same time to replace the Ohio-built Accord.
Honda sources told Inside Line the Sports 4 also foretells the next-generation Acura TSX, which will be based once again on the European Accord and is expected in U.S. dealerships in spring 2008.
The 2008 TSX is rumored to get a high-performance, dual-overhead-cam, 2.2-liter, four-cylinder engine — perhaps a version of the 237-horsepower unit that powers the S2000 roadster — mated to a six- or seven-speed gearbox.
Honda also is preparing to launch a pair of new entry-level models in spring 2006 in the United States. Based on the home-market Fit and priced from about $12,000, the five-door hatchback and four-door sedan may carry the Jazz name — as they do in other overseas markets — and will be aimed at entry-level models from Korea, as well as the upcoming Nissan Versa sedan and hatchback.
What this means to you: Honda is bolstering its American stable with new entry-level models and a replacement for the TSX.
The Honda Sports 4 concept sedan now is described by company insiders as an accurate precursor of the redesigned Accord. The new Accord will go into production in mid-2007 in Japan and will be sold in Europe and China. North American customers, however, will get a different design about the same time to replace the Ohio-built Accord.
Honda sources told Inside Line the Sports 4 also foretells the next-generation Acura TSX, which will be based once again on the European Accord and is expected in U.S. dealerships in spring 2008.
The 2008 TSX is rumored to get a high-performance, dual-overhead-cam, 2.2-liter, four-cylinder engine — perhaps a version of the 237-horsepower unit that powers the S2000 roadster — mated to a six- or seven-speed gearbox.
Honda also is preparing to launch a pair of new entry-level models in spring 2006 in the United States. Based on the home-market Fit and priced from about $12,000, the five-door hatchback and four-door sedan may carry the Jazz name — as they do in other overseas markets — and will be aimed at entry-level models from Korea, as well as the upcoming Nissan Versa sedan and hatchback.
What this means to you: Honda is bolstering its American stable with new entry-level models and a replacement for the TSX.
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here's the original thread that had pictures in it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=sports
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=sports
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Lets not get all worked up here, 2008 is far away and production models are probably going to be much different
That's still a concept car on the show floor... expect to see just the main styling theme will be applied to the production model, hence the name "concept cars"
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Good timing as far as my lease goes... it's up in '09 Spring, just enough time for the 1st year glitches to be worked out 
Hoping a new TL will be out by '08 as well... as I might consider the move too. Any word on that front? Sorry, too lazy to hop over to the TL forum... links to some similar threads over there will be much appreciated
Hoping a new TL will be out by '08 as well... as I might consider the move too. Any word on that front? Sorry, too lazy to hop over to the TL forum... links to some similar threads over there will be much appreciated
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Originally Posted by NJTSXMan
hmm.. no turbo engine?
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Originally Posted by phirenze
I don't care what edumunds says, there is no way the s2000 engine or any derivative thereof is going into the next gen TSX. I think we'll see an upgraded K24 and/or a turbo-4 SH-AWD.
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
and I don't see why a displacement drop from 2.4 to 2.2
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Originally Posted by phirenze
I don't care what edumunds says, there is no way the s2000 engine or any derivative thereof is going into the next gen TSX. I think we'll see an upgraded K24 and/or a turbo-4 SH-AWD.
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Originally Posted by moda_way
You won't see Honda do a turbo, but there has been talk of a new VTEC.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
another new vtec and hopefully no more drive-by-wire crap that keeps us from getting an easy turbo
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wow it looks great, I'm just glad its not coming out for the next couple years, since I hate seeing a better model of the same car on the streets. Makes my tsx feel like its not as good anymore...
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Originally Posted by West6MT
I WANT SH-AWD!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Originally Posted by Tintin
It doesnt make sence to me, that a 2004 car will be changed in 2008!!
4 and a half years of life!?!?
I wanted to buy a TSX (2005-2006 model) and now i feel its too late.
i like to have a fresh body that will last.
4 and a half years of life!?!?
I wanted to buy a TSX (2005-2006 model) and now i feel its too late.
i like to have a fresh body that will last.
well it says... that the american one will start sellign in the spring of 2008.
it also says "going into production mid 2007" so it will proably also be released to europe in japan towards the very end of 2007 or the start of 2008.
the current tsx was released in spring of 2003 as 2004 model, so concievably this spring 2008 release would be the 2009 model.
so exactly 5 years. pretty much all of hondas cars are on 5 year cycles just like most brands (i can only really see lexus, mercedes, and bmw consistantly holding cars for more than 5 years, they usually go 7)
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Originally Posted by batman
Most will disagree but it I think that the accord was released in late 02 as on 03 in europe and japan.
i've looked at most of the euro reviews, topgear, london times etc (i did before i bought this car).
i dont think they do the frankly retarded model year thing in japan and europe as we do (i.e. releasing a car february of 2005 and calling it a 2006 which say nissan did with the altima recently)
but from what i've seen it seems like it was released for sale around jan-feb 03 there as an 03 model. so only maybe a month or 2 before the US release
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FWIW, it had been suggested to me that the Sport 4 is the TL precursor. It does not look like they are planning to mate 4 cylinder engines to SH-AWD. The edmunds story suggests the S2000 2.2, but there is no way that Honda will go back to VTEC from i-VTEC.
I know a couple things for "sure":
1) SH-AWD is planned for all Acuras except for RSX (or its replacement) and TSX.
2) We will still have an entry level car with a 4 cylinder engine.
3) The next RSX will be based on the next gen TSX chassis.
If the RSX is 4 cylinders, than the TSX probably will be too. this means no SH-AWD. AND this means we're looking at the next TL.
I know a couple things for "sure":
1) SH-AWD is planned for all Acuras except for RSX (or its replacement) and TSX.
2) We will still have an entry level car with a 4 cylinder engine.
3) The next RSX will be based on the next gen TSX chassis.
If the RSX is 4 cylinders, than the TSX probably will be too. this means no SH-AWD. AND this means we're looking at the next TL.
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Originally Posted by hans007
i dont think they do the frankly retarded model year thing in japan and europe as we do (i.e. releasing a car february of 2005 and calling it a 2006 which say nissan did with the altima recently)
but from what i've seen it seems like it was released for sale around jan-feb 03 there as an 03 model. so only maybe a month or 2 before the US release
Euro Accord released 3/03. While they might not look alike, for financial reasons I think under the skin the new EuroAccord/TSX might share platform with the new USDM Accord. The new USDM Accord might get released off-cycle to keep pace with the new Camry - which comes out next spring
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I would agree, except for the parasitic loss of power we'd have with that drivetrain and extra weight to tug around. Look what it did to that powerful RL motor. Sure, it still hauls, but it would be worse on an i4.
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the new Cadillac
Sorry to rain on the parade boys, but can any of you tell me when Acura adopted Cadillac styling for the front end of the tsx? That thing is butt-ugly IMO. Side and back are nice. Imagine, copying Cadillac for styling. 
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Edmunds.com's Inside Line does not indicate that is the next TSX, they are saying that it is the NEXT Accord (as in USDM Accord) and that's what I believe personally. You're looking at the 08 Honda Accord for the US market.
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Here's more pics from Japan Autoshoe found on Honda-Tech.com
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1395476
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1395476
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Sad but true,...sigh. Thats why in my dream world the TSX would have a powerful inline 6 under the hood to haul the car around with its SH-AWD. Sure is nice to dream, LOL.
i doubt honda will ever put awd , or a much more powerful engine in the tsx. it wouldn't serve its entry level needs.
if they made another sedan lower in the acura lineup than the tsx then maybe. but the tsx is already not that large a car as it is.
so i only see that happening if everything gets upsized so that the next tsx is say TL sized, the next TL is RL sized, an dthe next RL is say mercedes s class sized.
needless to say that probably wont happen until they have a v8.
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Originally Posted by zircon
Sorry to rain on the parade boys, but can any of you tell me when Acura adopted Cadillac styling for the front end of the tsx? That thing is butt-ugly IMO. Side and back are nice. Imagine, copying Cadillac for styling.
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I would agree, except for the parasitic loss of power we'd have with that drivetrain and extra weight to tug around. Look what it did to that powerful RL motor. Sure, it still hauls, but it would be worse on an i4.
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Sad but true,...sigh. Thats why in my dream world the TSX would have a powerful inline 6 under the hood to haul the car around with its SH-AWD. Sure is nice to dream, LOL.
I6 by Honda would be very nice to see... just imagine how smooth that thing will rev... with iVTEC on an I6... smooth, free revving all the way to a 7+k redline... 
Having said that I highly doubt Honda will do I6... if they were intested in doing so, they would have done it long ago
