STL

LOL...if that promise was from a salesmen then don't count on it. Just about all of them will say ANYTHING to make a sale.

Dan Martin

Salesman + promise =

z-tec

my prediction:

2005:
xm
power passenger seat
possibly reverse tilt down passenger side mirror
possibly swap out MSM for a dark red

2006:
IMA option (one year AFTER the IMA accord V-6 makes the technology more feasible/ less expensive w/ its volume sales)

let's face, it the car is begging for the extra torque...and it's got the handles to carry it...

-z-tec, who hasn't seen a good junkster signoff in a while...

Stevens24

Well You will get a power passenger seat and XM Radio. You will have to wait til 06 for more HP. Haven't seen anything on colors but would seriously doubt we would have 2 reds. Although there is a different red in the RL so Icould see that replacing the Milano Red. price changes have not been given to us yet for any 05s.

Colin

Makes me think,: the RDX will be hybrid (IMA probably). I'm pretty sure it would be easy to adapt this to the TSX since I believe they'll be related under the skin.

Nicodemus

Do you mean the DN-X? I was under the impression that the RD-X was an SUV...?

Colin

The RDX will be a SUV, but a car based one. These days Hondas small car chassis (Civic,RSX, CRV, Element) and the Mid-Sized chassis (Accord, TL, TSX, Odyssey, MDX , Pilot) are more flexible than ever! There is a certain amount of swaping between cars, allowing the new CR-V to use the Accord engine (K24) even though the chassis is still Civic based.

biker

The TSX is the odd one in the mid sized chassis in that it is not common with the other 4 on your list. All of the other chassis can accept a V6 while the Euro Accord/TSX can't.

Also, the IMA that Honda is/will be pushing is mainly for it less fuel efficient V6s not 4 cyl models. In almost all cases manufacturers are adding IMA for milage improvements not HP increases.

jcg878

Indeed, the Oracle has already hinted at this TSX development in one of the RDX threads.

goose25

Dan Martin

XM is a given considering there is already an offical acura kit for the TSX. Unfortunately it's FM modulated.

fdl

I dont think I woudl subscribe to XM radio anyways. It is really all that good?

I dont care about power passanger seats, it will just be more weight on the car. I also dont care about memory seats because my seat gets slammed all the way to the back anyways.

But if there is a power increase of 20 hp or more, i may just need to trade my car in

STL

I don't see the need for it either -- especially with the in-dash 6-disc changer.

I totally agree!! In fact the power driver's seat -- without memory settings -- is only adding needless weight!

It would probably be cheaper to just by the new parts (exhaust, new ecu, etc.) rather than taking the hit trading in your car.

Dan Martin

BTW, if anyone is looking for the factory XM kit there's one on eBay for the low low price of $688!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=38645

Junkster

There are only two things that I'm waiting on for a future TSX...

The wagon to arrive in our market...
AWD...

In that order. I would love the Euro Accord wagon... looks kinda boxy, but in a good way.

Junkster, whose a wagon freak

gomez_regina

2) Already have them in Canada! Yay!

crisco

headlamp washers - a must for canadian salt infested winter roads.

kenji4861

Predictions

2005 - Nothing will change, XM Radio will be standard
2006 - New Color, New Taillight design, better seats.
2007 - New Color, better looking headlights

biker

Most of the time changes happen in two year increments - the 05 will be the exception in that the model will be over 1.5 years old. Nothing will happen in 06 and a refresh with changes (engine, IMA, etc) will come out for 07.

STL

This what I beginning to think too. For the 2005 model I think the TSX will probably get:
- one or two exterior color changes
- power passenger seat (useless addition of weight IMHO)
- XM radio
- maybe a couple of small optional items become standard (like the cargo net, etc.)
I also think the MSRP will stay the same, but they always bump up the destination charge some. I myself hope Acura adds a memory function on the driver's seat becuase that would make my next car buying decision much easier. If they don't then I'll be doing a lot of cross shopping the fall!

kenji4861

RSX-S is getting a 210hp engine for 05. I think TSX should/will get one too.. or else it gives a reason for people to go for RSX-S rather than TSX for a lower cost.

provench

Nah ... I doubt it ... these 4-door and 2-door cross shopping? Not usually.

Chaka34

IM a proud owner of a new (8/11) carbon gray/ebony with nav, out the door at just over 30 here in southern california with a few extras. My dealer told me that the only 2 new features in 2005 in the TSX are the power passenger seat and the bluetooth feature.

Just thought I would add my .02.

kenji4861

If those are the only difference.. it looks like I'll be picking up a 04 when the 05 comes out.

slobeatz

Just got a brochure from Northeast Acura today. It says, quote: "TSX is unchanged for model year '05". Don't know if it truly means anything, but that what they are saying.

STL

It sounds like you just bought a 2004 so I would fully expect the salesmen to tell you the 2005 changes will be minimal. I'm not saying they won't be, but I am saying the salesmen is likely only guessing and putting his spin on it (which is biased since he wants to sell you an '04 model now rather than an '05 later).

captainjack

If they make standard, Acura would probably integrate it into the head unit display like the TL. The Acura website shows it on the nav screen but my friend has the standard stereo and it shows up nicely.

ccins

I have a 2005 on order. The dealership called today to confirm that the 2005 model will include XM radio, power passenger seat, and heated mirrors.

Master47

Congrats!

Awesome, '05 it is for me then too. How much more $ on MSRP for all these changes? How long did they say before it arrives?

bgillette

Well i'm glad i got my 04 then and got a great deal.....because XM not something i need........the passenger can move their own seat if they really want it moved......and even in cleveland heated mirrors are not something that i'm going to wait another 2 months to get..



Now if we were talking a Type S, or even just 20-30-40 more HP and LB-FT.......THEN there would be some issues!!!

bigwilliestyle

What was your quote?

Punkydammit

Any estimated delivery date? I'm holding off my purchase on the advice of our longtime sales-guy, although he says we'll have to wait until they start showing up in November.

ccins

I don't have a delivery date yet, although they are going to a meeting later this week and they think they will be told the delivery dates of all the 05's. Also, we don't know the exact pricing , but pricing is not expected to change much, mayb 2%. I made my deal based on paying $1000 over invoice.

ccins

XM may not be important for some folks, but we have it on another vehicle and love it. By the way, the XM service is 9.95 per month for one car, but 6.95 per month for each additional up to a total of 4 I think.

Altersys

I would like to see auto up/down on the power passenger's window.


As everyone else has already stated, power pass seat would be nice, as would memory seating and at least one tilt-down mirror, and finally lighted steering wheel controls. Heated mirrors are no big deal to me, but I do think it's odd that the RSX has them while the TSX does not.

I would be happy to pay another $600 for that, and I think that would be fair and typical of Acura price increases.

-Alt

noman143

I'm with you on the auto up/down passenger window. I don't know why Acura/Lexus have such an issue with it. Infiniti has all auto up/down on G35 and so does BMW on 3 series.

I would also like a slight boost in power since RSX is up to 210 for 05. Can't have less than the RSX, although RSX needs it to compete.

Altersys

It's bizarre... it's such a cheap part, and such a cheap relay. It's even more bizarre that Acura decided to go ahead and put them on the pass door of the TL, but not the rears? Hmmm... that's just odd.

If it awards better PERCEPTION of value without requiring that much more REAL value, then why not? it's the smart thing for the automaker to do (increased profits)!

danny1010

It may be a safety issue, very much the same way Acura didn't include the window roll-up feature on the remote.

I don't think it's really that dangerous, but Honda always seems to err on the side of caution with this kind of thing, so it seems plausible.

Altersys

Perhaps. Hadn't thought of that.

Careless, litigious people just keep ruining things for responsible ones.

-Alt

EmuMessenger

Ventilated seats would be a nice addition!