Mar 17, 2005 | 05:11 PM
  #1  
I case you didn't know, you can deduct the sales tax you paid for your new car on your federal income taxes. Thought I would share. BTW it's 7% here.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 05:53 PM
  #2  
Yup.. I claimed the 7.75% tax that I paid for my tsx.... for that matter, you can claim all of your sales taxes in 2004, as long you keep your receipt to prove....
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Mar 17, 2005 | 06:47 PM
  #3  
yea i just found out a few weeks ago. i had already filed my taxes by then and i was like doh! but then i realized that i bought my tsx in the first week of january so i can report it next year. and i'm saving all my receipts now too.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Cha Ching!!! Can use the money to finance some mods..........
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Mar 17, 2005 | 08:21 PM
  #5  
Do you know where in the 1040 instructions it says that? Thanks!
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Mar 17, 2005 | 08:24 PM
  #6  
mmmm tsx tax. lol almost ironic in the man......bah must go back to exams
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Mar 17, 2005 | 08:25 PM
  #7  
I hope none of our members think they can do the same.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 08:35 PM
  #8  
In the 1040 booklet, look on page A-2 in the back. Under Line 5 topic go town to the paragraph that talks about "State and Local general sales taxes." It mentions motor vehicles (TSX)!!
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Mar 17, 2005 | 09:36 PM
  #9  
Anybody do their taxes online with H&R Block? I must have missed this "State and Local general sales taxes" section even though it was in the back of my mind.
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Mar 17, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Quote: Anybody do their taxes online with H&R Block? I must have missed this "State and Local general sales taxes" section even though it was in the back of my mind.
I use Turbotax but haven't done my taxes yet. I'm hoping it comes up during the interactive interview.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 07:42 AM
  #11  
Be careful though... the instructions state the following:

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You can elect to deduct state and local general sales taxes instead of state and local income taxes. <b>You cannot deduct both</b>.
And you have to itemize. So make sure to figure out which one works for you. I think most people won't be able to do it. But if you don't make much money or are in school, bonus for you.

On a side note, you can deduct property taxes such as your car excise tax on line 7. Don't forget this, especially since it's a new car as it'll typically be significant.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Quote: Yup.. I claimed the 7.75% tax that I paid for my tsx.... for that matter, you can claim all of your sales taxes in 2004, as long you keep your receipt to prove....
Yea, but it says on "big purchase items". I dont know if you can deduct tax for the quick run to Home Depot.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 10:28 AM
  #13  
Quote: Yea, but it says on "big purchase items". I dont know if you can deduct tax for the quick run to Home Depot.
Sure you can if you keep all your receipts. Your essentially claiming state sales tax instead of state income tax.

If you're in an tax income free state such as New Hampshire, this is a big win for you.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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more information i posted elsewhere:

there are certain conditions. only benefits ppl in states with no income tax or ppl that made huge $$$$$ purchases last year.

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New for 2004, you can elect to deduct state and local general sales taxes instead of state and local income taxes Tables as an itemized deduction on Schedule A (Form 1040). You cannot deduct both. Generally, to figure your state and local general sales tax deduction, you can use either your For use in preparing actual expenses or the Optional State Sales Tax Tables contained in this publication.

2004 Returns Actual expenses. Generally, you can deduct the actual state and local general sales taxes (including compensating use taxes) you paid in 2004 only if the tax rate was the same as the general sales tax rate. Do not include sales taxes paid on items used in your trade or business.

Rate less than general rate. Sales taxes on food, clothing, medical supplies, and motor vehicles are deductible as a general sales tax even if the tax rate was less than the general sales tax rate.

Rate more than general rate. Sales taxes on motor vehicles also are deductible as a general sales tax if the tax rate was more than the general sales tax rate, but the tax is deductible only up to the amount of tax that would have been imposed at the general sales tax rate. Motor vehicles include:

• Cars,
• Motorcycles,
• Motor homes,
• Recreational vehicles,
• Sport utility vehicles,
• Trucks,
• Vans, and
• Off-road vehicles.

Also include any state and local general sales taxes paid
for a leased motor vehicle.

You must keep your actual receipts showing general
sales taxes paid to use this method.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p600.pdf
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Mar 18, 2005 | 10:32 AM
  #15  
related businessweek article

found the businessweek article

http://www.businessweek.com/print//m...9139_mz070.htm

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Should You Take This Tax Break?
The new sales tax deduction may be worth claiming, but crunch some numbers first

If you live in one of nine states with no income tax on wages, here's some good news: A new law lets you deduct state and local sales tax on your federal return. The break is good only for this tax season and next, unless Congress acts to extend it. For everyone else, the new law gives you the option of deducting either your state and local sales tax or your state and local income tax -- but not both. As a result, you'll have to crunch some numbers to see which deduction gets you the most savings.

If you pay state income tax, chances are you'll come out ahead with the income tax deduction. But there are exceptions. Big spenders should run the numbers. So should residents of states, including Illinois and Michigan, where income tax rates are lower than the sales tax rate, says John Logan, senior state tax analyst at CCH Tax & Accounting in Riverwoods, Ill. Here are answers to some questions about how the sales tax deduction works.

I haven't saved my receipts. Can I claim the sales tax deduction?
Yes. The Internal Revenue Service gives you two ways to claim this deduction. The first is to use your actual expenditures. The alternative is to rely on the tables in the IRS' Publication 600 (available at www.irs.gov). Look up your home state -- since sales tax rates vary, so do the deductions. The amount you deduct will also depend on your family's size and adjusted gross income (with a few nontaxable items, such as tax-exempt interest, added). For example, the tables allow an Illinois resident with four exemptions and $120,000 in adjusted income to deduct $1,611.

What about local sales taxes?
Since the IRS tables are based solely on state sales tax rates, those who pay local sales tax will have to do some extra math using the worksheet in Publication 600. Give the Illinois family above a Chicago address, for instance, and it can claim an extra $644.40 in deductions for local sales tax payments. That brings the deduction to $2,255.40.

What if I bought a big-ticket item?
If you bought a boat, car, truck, or other item listed in Publication 600 or leased a motor vehicle, add the sales tax you paid to the table amount you're allotted. With a $30,000 car purchase, the Chicago family's total sales tax deduction comes to $4,880. That exceeds the $3,600 state income tax deduction allowed on $120,000 of taxable income.

Should I save receipts in 2005?
It's worth saving your receipts if you think you spend more than the IRS tables assume. To figure that out, start by looking up your deduction in Publication 600. Then, divide by your state's sales tax rate. Since Illinois has a 6.25% sales tax rate, the Illinois family would divide $1,611 by 0.0625. The result -- $25,776 -- represents what the IRS expects an average Illinois family of four with $120,000 of adjusted income to have spent in 2004, excluding big-ticket purchases. If this family spends more, it's likely to net a fatter sales tax deduction on its 2005 return by booking actual expenditures.

What if I moved?
Calculate a combined sales tax deduction covering the states you lived in. Say you spent the first 250 days of 2004 in Illinois. Start with the $1,611 Illinois deduction. Then, multiply by the portion of the year you lived in Illinois -- or 250 days divided by the 366 days in 2004. The result, $1,100, is the Illinois sales tax you can claim. Repeat this exercise with the other states you lived in, and add the results to get your total deduction.

When computing the alternative minimum tax, how is the new deduction treated?
As is the case with the state and local income tax deduction, the AMT wipes out the sales tax deduction, says Martin Nissenbaum, national director of personal income tax planning at Ernst & Young.

Do all purchases qualify?
No. Some states levy special taxes on items such as hotel rooms and restaurant meals that generally aren't deductible, CCH's Logan says. But if in your state you pay different rates on food, clothing, medical supplies, and motor vehicles, you can still generally claim a deduction for the amount you paid, says William Massey, senior tax analyst at tax information provider RIA.

I live in a state with a high income tax rate. Should I bother doing the math?
In some situations, you still might do better with the sales tax. If you have a lot of tax-free municipal bond income, you may pay so little in income tax that the sales tax deduction is the better alternative, says Alfred Peguero, partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers. If this was a year of big purchases, you may also come out ahead by deducting sales taxes. When in doubt, do the numbers.


By Anne Tergesen
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Mar 18, 2005 | 11:04 AM
  #16  
Thanks, dabuda. That was a helpful read.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 11:23 AM
  #17  
Purchased mine late Dec. 03. Missed it by that much.
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Mar 18, 2005 | 10:34 PM
  #18  
You can still claim the sales tax on your 2004 return......oh btw, Florida has no state income tax........yea
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