1 month old and now this...
1 month old and now this...
A 18 wheeler truck drove past me going the other direction and he was carrying a load of Sod, and when he passed a huge splash of really black spray got all over the windshield... I thought great... mud all over my freshly washed car.
I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.
I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?
Think a good waxing will fix it?
I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.
I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.
I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?
Think a good waxing will fix it?
I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.
I would wash it using blue liquid Dawn dish detergent and warm water 1X, then I would "clay" it. I would then wash it again using a high quality car shampoo and then a few coats of a high quality polymer like Zaino. Just my
Originally Posted by aaronng
I wouldn't try dawn. I'd use clay first and then follow up with a paint cleaner like Klasse AIO if needed. Then I'd reapply the wax.
use Zaino products, and follow their directions, which is Dawn, Clay bar and then their products, your in for a fair amount of work to get the car to show quality finish again. But.... it will be worth it.
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Originally Posted by Wobblyman
Stupid question from an aussie,
What is claying / a clay bar ?
What is claying / a clay bar ?
Originally Posted by tsturbo
I would wash it using blue liquid Dawn dish detergent and warm water 1X, then I would "clay" it. I would then wash it again using a high quality car shampoo and then a few coats of a high quality polymer like Zaino. Just my 

Go with aaronng, he is pro detailer, I think.
The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.
If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.
If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
Originally Posted by r33p04s
if your gonna clay bar it you should use the dawn first to strip the wax and other layers you might build up before you clean the paint with the clay bar... 
Originally Posted by 5o9
Go with aaronng, he is pro detailer, I think.
The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.
If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.
If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
If he was applying Zaino, then go ahead and wash with a bit of Dawn. But if he was not, then why use Dawn? Bloodymess13, if you want to try dawn, do so on one panel first to see if it is able to cut through the oil. If you get dawn solution on your trim, just wash, dry and use trim detailer. Repeated exposure to dawn will cause the trim to turn gray and dry out plastics.
I recommended clay and Klasse (or other paint cleaners) because these are 2 items that are useful and I am sure that this will not be the last time you get something stubborn on your car's paint.
I recommended clay and Klasse (or other paint cleaners) because these are 2 items that are useful and I am sure that this will not be the last time you get something stubborn on your car's paint.
Didn't someone post a description on dawn's label which says not to use it on your car? I suppose dawn is indiscriminate in what it attacks.
I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
Dawn is used to get off all the grime and crap on your car, including wax. If you use Dawn to wash your car, you have to re-wax. Look it up on Zaino's web site....even they say to use Dawn, but then to re-wax afterwards.
Well i have been completely covered up with work, wedding planning for my own wedding, and getting prepared for tons of guests that are coming to visit for a wedding that I am in this friday.
I will be working on cleaning the car tonight. This is the process I am going to take:
1) Wash with the current soap I have (Turtle wax)
2) Clay (I am going to buy the clay after work)
3) Klasse AIO (Buying after work)
4) Waxing with McGuires NXT spray wax (already have it)
I am hoping that it won't take more than a couple hours. I already have to fix my DOM converter I just bought. The switch broke off of it... so i need to resolder it. and I am also getting bleed through from the navigation... I think i might need a power filter to fix that so I will also be installing that.
Its a busy night ahead.
I will be working on cleaning the car tonight. This is the process I am going to take:
1) Wash with the current soap I have (Turtle wax)
2) Clay (I am going to buy the clay after work)
3) Klasse AIO (Buying after work)
4) Waxing with McGuires NXT spray wax (already have it)
I am hoping that it won't take more than a couple hours. I already have to fix my DOM converter I just bought. The switch broke off of it... so i need to resolder it. and I am also getting bleed through from the navigation... I think i might need a power filter to fix that so I will also be installing that.
Its a busy night ahead.
Originally Posted by Bloodymess13
A 18 wheeler truck drove past me going the other direction and he was carrying a load of Sod, and when he passed a huge splash of really black spray got all over the windshield... I thought great... mud all over my freshly washed car.
I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.
I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?
Think a good waxing will fix it?
I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.
I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.
I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?
Think a good waxing will fix it?
I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.
post in wash and wax for the best responses.
Originally Posted by SoCaliTrojan
Didn't someone post a description on dawn's label which says not to use it on your car? I suppose dawn is indiscriminate in what it attacks.
I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
Originally Posted by tsturbo
Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
Originally Posted by bradykp
people at dawn speficially instruct customers against using it on a car. so i'll listen to the folks at dawn. 
The reason the say to use dawn, is to remove any grease/oil/grime and residual wax before applying their products.
Originally Posted by tsturbo
Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale. Any car soap that you used is probably going to be PH balanced to protect the paint. So... just use some light dishwashing soap to get the grease off. Then redo the car with wax. The dishwashing detergent isnt' usually recommended because it strips the wax off of the car and that's bad for the paint if you drive around with no wax. But no worries if you rewax it.
Originally Posted by mickey513
YOU MUST BE KIDDING RIGHT? 

Lots of misinformation in this thread. Theirs a wash and wax section in off topic, I suggest you read up.
Also, to the orginal poster, hope you werent dissapointed when you went to pick up a bottle of AIO. You cant just get that stuff in Walmart. Need to order it online..
Originally Posted by tsturbo
The reason the say to use dawn, is to remove any grease/oil/grime and residual wax before applying their products.
Originally Posted by Alin10123
Agreed.
The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale.
The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale.
Do me a favor, wash your car with any normal car soap, then take a clay bar to it and you will have nothing but clearcoat.
Originally Posted by Alin10123
Agreed.
The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale. Any car soap that you used is probably going to be PH balanced to protect the paint. So... just use some light dishwashing soap to get the grease off. Then redo the car with wax. The dishwashing detergent isnt' usually recommended because it strips the wax off of the car and that's bad for the paint if you drive around with no wax. But no worries if you rewax it.
The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale. Any car soap that you used is probably going to be PH balanced to protect the paint. So... just use some light dishwashing soap to get the grease off. Then redo the car with wax. The dishwashing detergent isnt' usually recommended because it strips the wax off of the car and that's bad for the paint if you drive around with no wax. But no worries if you rewax it.
Originally Posted by aaronng
There are soaps that are pH neutral and remove grease. They are called "detergents". Please read the wash and wax section and also go over to Autopia.org to get more info.
god this week has been busy. Ofcourse this had to have happened on one of the busiest weeks this year.
I washed the car twice (back to back) on Wednesday night and it seemed to get rid of any visual imperfections left by the oil. I went to Advanced Auto Parts and they didn't have AIO (was thinking before i went that i would be lucky to find it or even the clay bar). The only clay bar they had was Mothers kit that had it. I wasn't sure if it was any good or worth the money so I decided to wash the car first then see if it needed to be clayed I would go back and get the bar (the store is like 1 mile away).
I think it is visually ok, but there are still contaminents on the paint I am sure from the oil. I want to clay it, but just don't have the time right now.
Is the Mothers bar any good? Or should I order one off the net?
I washed the car twice (back to back) on Wednesday night and it seemed to get rid of any visual imperfections left by the oil. I went to Advanced Auto Parts and they didn't have AIO (was thinking before i went that i would be lucky to find it or even the clay bar). The only clay bar they had was Mothers kit that had it. I wasn't sure if it was any good or worth the money so I decided to wash the car first then see if it needed to be clayed I would go back and get the bar (the store is like 1 mile away).
I think it is visually ok, but there are still contaminents on the paint I am sure from the oil. I want to clay it, but just don't have the time right now.
Is the Mothers bar any good? Or should I order one off the net?
Originally Posted by Alin10123
I've been reading the wash and wax section here. There are people there that have told me to use dawn, then the clay bar, then the porter cable, then wax.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
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