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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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1 month old and now this...

A 18 wheeler truck drove past me going the other direction and he was carrying a load of Sod, and when he passed a huge splash of really black spray got all over the windshield... I thought great... mud all over my freshly washed car.

I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.

I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?

Think a good waxing will fix it?

I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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I would wash it using blue liquid Dawn dish detergent and warm water 1X, then I would "clay" it. I would then wash it again using a high quality car shampoo and then a few coats of a high quality polymer like Zaino. Just my
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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try claying, if that doesnt work, polish it with a pc.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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oh yeah, try using a alochol solution too.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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I wouldn't try dawn. I'd use clay first and then follow up with a paint cleaner like Klasse AIO if needed. Then I'd reapply the wax.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:35 AM
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I wouldn't try dawn. I'd use clay first and then follow up with a paint cleaner like Klasse AIO if needed. Then I'd reapply the wax.
if your gonna clay bar it you should use the dawn first to strip the wax and other layers you might build up before you clean the paint with the clay bar...
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Old May 23, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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use Zaino products, and follow their directions, which is Dawn, Clay bar and then their products, your in for a fair amount of work to get the car to show quality finish again. But.... it will be worth it.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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Stupid question from an aussie,


What is claying / a clay bar ?
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Old May 23, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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Clay bar is clay that you use to get all the contaminants off your paint. Do a search in the Wash and Wax section. There's tons of info in there.......... Cheers
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Old May 23, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wobblyman
Stupid question from an aussie,


What is claying / a clay bar ?
Clay bar is clay that you use to get all the contaminants off your paint. Do a search in the Wash and Wax section. There's tons of info in there.......... Cheers
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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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all about detailing clay
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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tsturbo
I would wash it using blue liquid Dawn dish detergent and warm water 1X, then I would "clay" it. I would then wash it again using a high quality car shampoo and then a few coats of a high quality polymer like Zaino. Just my
Ditto. If that doesn't work, I'd take it to a professional detailer.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Thanks for the help, sounds like a full days work. I am going to have to go out and get a clay bar i guess.

Thanks again
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Old May 23, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Go with aaronng, he is pro detailer, I think.

The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.

If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by r33p04s
if your gonna clay bar it you should use the dawn first to strip the wax and other layers you might build up before you clean the paint with the clay bar...
The clay will remove the wax. So why bother with dawn? Afterall, claying removes contamination that is "higher" than the paint surface. Any remaining tar that is too thin to be removed by claying will be removed when you use Klasse AIO.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 5o9
Go with aaronng, he is pro detailer, I think.

The klasse all in one is a favorite product. Don't use Dawn detergent on your car. No need to strip old wax before clay. Clay is easy and fast.

If you have problems, post on wash & wax in off topic. Pros are there to help you with the strange problems.
You're making me blush. Thanks for the compliment
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Old May 23, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.

It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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do this http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...de=APPLICATION
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:55 AM
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If he was applying Zaino, then go ahead and wash with a bit of Dawn. But if he was not, then why use Dawn? Bloodymess13, if you want to try dawn, do so on one panel first to see if it is able to cut through the oil. If you get dawn solution on your trim, just wash, dry and use trim detailer. Repeated exposure to dawn will cause the trim to turn gray and dry out plastics.

I recommended clay and Klasse (or other paint cleaners) because these are 2 items that are useful and I am sure that this will not be the last time you get something stubborn on your car's paint.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Didn't someone post a description on dawn's label which says not to use it on your car? I suppose dawn is indiscriminate in what it attacks.

I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Dawn is safe on paint, but it takes wax off. Usually it is used when you specifically want to remove wax.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Dawn is used to get off all the grime and crap on your car, including wax. If you use Dawn to wash your car, you have to re-wax. Look it up on Zaino's web site....even they say to use Dawn, but then to re-wax afterwards.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Well i have been completely covered up with work, wedding planning for my own wedding, and getting prepared for tons of guests that are coming to visit for a wedding that I am in this friday.

I will be working on cleaning the car tonight. This is the process I am going to take:

1) Wash with the current soap I have (Turtle wax)
2) Clay (I am going to buy the clay after work)
3) Klasse AIO (Buying after work)
4) Waxing with McGuires NXT spray wax (already have it)

I am hoping that it won't take more than a couple hours. I already have to fix my DOM converter I just bought. The switch broke off of it... so i need to resolder it. and I am also getting bleed through from the navigation... I think i might need a power filter to fix that so I will also be installing that.

Its a busy night ahead.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloodymess13
A 18 wheeler truck drove past me going the other direction and he was carrying a load of Sod, and when he passed a huge splash of really black spray got all over the windshield... I thought great... mud all over my freshly washed car.

I then go out to eat, and an hour later when i come back out to the car i take a closer look... its not mud... its OIL. Atleast thats the best i could figure. It was really black, was water repellent, and it didn't dry during the hour that i was eating dinner. It didn't really smell.

I washed it off with soap and water as best I could after getting back to the house, although is still seemed to leave a bit of residue that i couldn't get rid of. Is this going to ruin my paint?

Think a good waxing will fix it?

I wasn't able to do a full blown washing because it was at my mothers house, not mine. I was visiting for the day. I won't have time to wash it until later this week, unless you guys think it is going to tear up the paint.

post in wash and wax for the best responses.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCaliTrojan
Didn't someone post a description on dawn's label which says not to use it on your car? I suppose dawn is indiscriminate in what it attacks.

I think it would be better if a detergent made specifically for car washes was used.
i would not use dawn. many of the professional detailers in the w&w forum also say don't use dawn.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsturbo
Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.

It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
people at dawn speficially instruct customers against using it on a car. so i'll listen to the folks at dawn.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bradykp
people at dawn speficially instruct customers against using it on a car. so i'll listen to the folks at dawn.
Ah - Yeah, no kidding. Do you think I use it on regular basis? Ummm NO. I used it 1X as instructed from the Zaino website before claying, then rewashed the car with a quality car shampoo.

The reason the say to use dawn, is to remove any grease/oil/grime and residual wax before applying their products.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by acn684
oh yeah, try using a alochol solution too.

YOU MUST BE KIDDING RIGHT?
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Old May 28, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tsturbo
Do what you want, but many detailers as well as the Zaino site say to use Dawn blue before claying to remove oils/grease etc. Obviously there are some who disagree and others that may not care for Zaino products, but they sure have a big following, great testimonials on their web page and their products "ROCK" IMO.

It's your car, do what you want. To each their own.
Agreed.

The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale. Any car soap that you used is probably going to be PH balanced to protect the paint. So... just use some light dishwashing soap to get the grease off. Then redo the car with wax. The dishwashing detergent isnt' usually recommended because it strips the wax off of the car and that's bad for the paint if you drive around with no wax. But no worries if you rewax it.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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YOU MUST BE KIDDING RIGHT?
No, he's not kidding. A 50/50 mix of Iso Alcohol and water will remove any wax or grease on the paint. Much safer then using Dawn. I dont know why some people are so adamant about using it when there are other options that are more effective.

Lots of misinformation in this thread. Theirs a wash and wax section in off topic, I suggest you read up.

Also, to the orginal poster, hope you werent dissapointed when you went to pick up a bottle of AIO. You cant just get that stuff in Walmart. Need to order it online..
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tsturbo
The reason the say to use dawn, is to remove any grease/oil/grime and residual wax before applying their products.
So what do you think the clay is going to do?
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
Agreed.

The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale.
Do me a favor, wash your car with any normal car soap, then take a clay bar to it and you will have nothing but clearcoat.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
Agreed.

The only thing that will get rid of the grease is a solution that's a "base" on the PH scale. Any car soap that you used is probably going to be PH balanced to protect the paint. So... just use some light dishwashing soap to get the grease off. Then redo the car with wax. The dishwashing detergent isnt' usually recommended because it strips the wax off of the car and that's bad for the paint if you drive around with no wax. But no worries if you rewax it.
There are soaps that are pH neutral and remove grease. They are called "detergents". Please read the wash and wax section and also go over to Autopia.org to get more info.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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There are soaps that are pH neutral and remove grease. They are called "detergents". Please read the wash and wax section and also go over to Autopia.org to get more info.
I've been reading the wash and wax section here. There are people there that have told me to use dawn, then the clay bar, then the porter cable, then wax.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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god this week has been busy. Ofcourse this had to have happened on one of the busiest weeks this year.

I washed the car twice (back to back) on Wednesday night and it seemed to get rid of any visual imperfections left by the oil. I went to Advanced Auto Parts and they didn't have AIO (was thinking before i went that i would be lucky to find it or even the clay bar). The only clay bar they had was Mothers kit that had it. I wasn't sure if it was any good or worth the money so I decided to wash the car first then see if it needed to be clayed I would go back and get the bar (the store is like 1 mile away).

I think it is visually ok, but there are still contaminents on the paint I am sure from the oil. I want to clay it, but just don't have the time right now.

Is the Mothers bar any good? Or should I order one off the net?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
I've been reading the wash and wax section here. There are people there that have told me to use dawn, then the clay bar, then the porter cable, then wax.
And there are more than twice the number telling them not to as well.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=dawn
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