Vit Tuned Thread
#121
FLETCH
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The vw motor has direct injection that's reasone number 1 why it makes so much more power. Also if you look on say APRs web site their numbers are crank numbers usually.
I'm on my phone I'll post more comparisons later. Your better off comparing the new type R motor to the 2.0t
I'm on my phone I'll post more comparisons later. Your better off comparing the new type R motor to the 2.0t
Last edited by TheWrench116; 05-10-2015 at 06:52 PM.
#122
The vw motor has direct injection that's reasone number 1 why it makes so much more power. Also if you look on say APRs web site their numbers are crank numbers usually.
I'm on my phone I'll post more comparisons later. Your better off comparing the new type R motor to the 2.0t
I'm on my phone I'll post more comparisons later. Your better off comparing the new type R motor to the 2.0t
I honestly feel that the RDX is plenty powerful enough from the factory but it is always nice to have more power! I will be doing Hondata though for sure. I suppose $300 for the gains that Hondata does provide is pretty sweet.
#123
FLETCH
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i think the vw motors were sand bagging a bit more and that's the reason for such a big jump in the STAGE 1 tune as far as needing bolt-ons the Acura has a bit of a handy cap in that the direct injection is more flexible in how it delivers fuel and its effect on emissions. and Honda went for Ultra low emissions and screwed us with that primary cat! as far as what the stock turbo can do I think if someone wants to max it out they can hit a mid to hi 13 in the 1/4 mile and probably 280+ whp.?. the injectors are a must change if you get a turbo or all available bolt-ons. the other bottle neck is the stock maf sensor and I'm working on that.
#124
i think the vw motors were sand bagging a bit more and that's the reason for such a big jump in the STAGE 1 tune as far as needing bolt-ons the Acura has a bit of a handy cap in that the direct injection is more flexible in how it delivers fuel and its effect on emissions. and Honda went for Ultra low emissions and screwed us with that primary cat! as far as what the stock turbo can do I think if someone wants to max it out they can hit a mid to hi 13 in the 1/4 mile and probably 280+ whp.?. the injectors are a must change if you get a turbo or all available bolt-ons. the other bottle neck is the stock maf sensor and I'm working on that.
Is there no way to remove that primary cat? I am sure if it was that simple it would have been done, but just wondering.
Hondata adds something like +20hp and +30tq IIRC, adding a downpipe, injectors, and a better exhaust would probably help a lot. I really doubt that you could get 280whp easily though, the SHAWD sucks the power right out of it, along with the rest of the drivelines parasitic drag. But I would love to have 280whp! I kind of wish they just stuck in the 3.5 or 3.2 DOHC VTEC V6. That would have been sweet! Then again the RDX wouldn't be nearly as agile I would think.
#126
I didn't post good numbers (only 200whp lol) but there were odd things going on in my tune right at this stage as it was the only time I could get dyno control, and it was super rich as part of the knock control tuning process.
Going to be able to post numbers when all is done for what I feel is my 'modest' mod list: RV-6 dp, ETS intercooler, 800cc injectors, flashpro. Ideally with the dead spot ironed out and everything finalized I'll be able to at least match the previous numbers. If not, I'll attempt a dyno tune and see how it goes. Then we'll have a great grounds for comparison for everyone, I think, as I imagine that my mod set will likely be a common starting point as it provides a great 'base'
Going to be able to post numbers when all is done for what I feel is my 'modest' mod list: RV-6 dp, ETS intercooler, 800cc injectors, flashpro. Ideally with the dead spot ironed out and everything finalized I'll be able to at least match the previous numbers. If not, I'll attempt a dyno tune and see how it goes. Then we'll have a great grounds for comparison for everyone, I think, as I imagine that my mod set will likely be a common starting point as it provides a great 'base'
#127
Going to be able to post numbers when all is done for what I feel is my 'modest' mod list: RV-6 dp, ETS intercooler, 800cc injectors, flashpro. Ideally with the dead spot ironed out and everything finalized I'll be able to at least match the previous numbers. If not, I'll attempt a dyno tune and see how it goes. Then we'll have a great grounds for comparison for everyone, I think, as I imagine that my mod set will likely be a common starting point as it provides a great 'base'
Did you get get a CEL with the RV-6 DP and the 02 fouler?
#128
Those numbers are very impressive! I imagine at the crank it must be making well over 300hp/tq. I hope to be able to get your numbers with mine if I get one.
#129
Instructor
also....stages is a loose term cant really compare stages amongst cars.....like compare a stage 3 subaru to a stage 2 tiguan to a stage 4 evo to a stage 2 dsm.....you see where im going with it. i could say my base tune was stage 1 i could say my current tune is stage 3 the good thing about hondata fp is you are able to constantly tweak....no set stage crap. i tow "stage 2 " subarus all the time in colorado because the stage preset tune is shit and screws there stuff up. :-)
#130
#131
also....stages is a loose term cant really compare stages amongst cars.....like compare a stage 3 subaru to a stage 2 tiguan to a stage 4 evo to a stage 2 dsm.....you see where im going with it. i could say my base tune was stage 1 i could say my current tune is stage 3 the good thing about hondata fp is you are able to constantly tweak....no set stage crap. i tow "stage 2 " subarus all the time in colorado because the stage preset tune is shit and screws there stuff up. :-)
I am still not sure if I want to get the whole flashpro or just go for the re-flash. I was originally indicating just reflash with that price, but I want to try and get more power out of it and may get tunes from VIT, but obviously that would mean I would have to purchase the flash pro as well.
#132
FLETCH
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the "canned" tune from the hondata reflash leaves a lot on the table. but if your just looking for a few more HP then it might be right for you. but if you get a taste you will most likely want more. it would be a shame to spend it twice. trust me on that one I've bought 2 intakes and 2 intercoolers and 2 sets of injectors...
#133
the "canned" tune from the hondata reflash leaves a lot on the table. but if your just looking for a few more HP then it might be right for you. but if you get a taste you will most likely want more. it would be a shame to spend it twice. trust me on that one I've bought 2 intakes and 2 intercoolers and 2 sets of injectors...
#134
I'm considering getting a flashpro should I be concerned if I just run the basic map from hondata? I'm not interested in special tuning at the moment. Kinda confused with all the threads about problems with flashpro.
#136
KingKong, I bought the Flashpro about a month ago and it was super easy to install. My impressions from a novice (right now) and from what I have read, is that the turbo spools faster at lower speeds, so when I punch it even a little at slow speeds, the boost pressure gets to full boost quicker, and the acceleration is smoother. I don't know why, and I am sure someone else can explain it much better and in technical terms. Now I am looking forward to putting on a couple more mods and getting a tune just to see what it can do. Can't let everyone else have all the fun on this forum. Call it my mid-life crisis.
#137
FLETCH
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a vit tune will get you the most power and reliability also better MPG
the flash pro is a 10/10ths tuning solution. you will have the best possible drivability and power potential IF you know how to tune OR you have a good tuner ( VIT VIPER ) and what's more is Doug (hondata) and Vitaliy (vit viper) are constantly working on furthering the "cause". I think they really want to see what this platform can do regardless of weather its a stock vehicle or its going to be a weekend warrior.
#138
#139
thanks for the comment. I had the reflash before and it was wiped out by the dealership when I brought the car in for service. Now I'm back to stock and was wondering how is the reflash power compared to Flash pro from your experience. Any difference? I've seen the numbers from Hondata and as I recalled correctly they should be the same. But I want to know your personally experience from someone who went from Reflash to Flash pro. Thanks for your inputs.
#141
You make some good points. In my previous car, you could get a warranty-backed reflash good for 30 hp / 60 tq, and the aftermarket tuners were capable of much more with simple software. The potential gains in this car, at least so far, are not nearly as much. There could be a number of factors, but primarily (at least so far), the biggest barriers seem to be fuel (stock injectors can't support much more than stock power), and issue with overboost (appear to have been fixed with most recent Hondata release).
Software solutions will definitely take some time with the RDX, as the enthusiast population is not high compared to other cars, and this engine is not available anywhere else. With the relatively small size of the aftermarket, that's just par for the course. The things guys like KenB and Wrench are doing though - that could open some doors for some the more "casual enthusiasts" like myself.
Software solutions will definitely take some time with the RDX, as the enthusiast population is not high compared to other cars, and this engine is not available anywhere else. With the relatively small size of the aftermarket, that's just par for the course. The things guys like KenB and Wrench are doing though - that could open some doors for some the more "casual enthusiasts" like myself.
#142
#143
'08 Cobalt SS. In my (likely biased) opinion, a diamond in the rough. It was as quick around a track as the Camaro SS of the same year, yet easily topped 30 mpg on the highway and rode only slightly stiffer than the first gen RDX. Aside from the cheap-feeling interior (albeit functional and well organized), it was a fantastic all around car.
#145
SRT-4 got a lot of hate, but when it came out you had a 4-cylinder econobox that could run neck and neck with Nissan's brand new 350Z. For the Chevy, 300 whp / 350 wtq was achievable for less than $1k into the car. I spent almost that much on an intercooler for this RDX! Never lost my shift knob, but I did lose the little plastic cap of the shift knob that had the gear diagram on it. And, ironically, that was the only thing that ever went wrong with it in my 85k miles of ownership. Really was a great little car, I was just ready for a change.
Sometimes I think I should have kept it along with the RDX, but if/when I have a real dedicated "fun" car, it'll be something that spins the rear wheels.
Sometimes I think I should have kept it along with the RDX, but if/when I have a real dedicated "fun" car, it'll be something that spins the rear wheels.
#147
That will depend more on your driving style than the tuning. Some of the bolt-ons can potentially give a slight increase in mpg, but if you are the heavy-footed type it could also go the other way.
Let's put it this way...if you're tuning your car to get better mpg, you're wasting your money.
Let's put it this way...if you're tuning your car to get better mpg, you're wasting your money.
#149
Have to agree with Wrench and Tom, best way to get maximum MPG is drive with a soft pedal (as in don't engage the turbo much). But on the other hand, why buy a turbo without using it. The Hondata Flashpro seems to give the car more low end pickup is what I noticed with a slight bump in MPG (only one tank though so don't quote me). Tomtw know the specifics about leaning out the mixture. On the other hand, the Sammy Hagar song applies when the road opens up (can't drive 55!!!!!)
#150
Drifting
#153
FLETCH
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well he could elaborate some on it that's all I'm saying... he tuned it so it would be nice to see the mod list and numbers listed someplace. but not everyone is about helping the cause so if the individual wants to remain obscure I guess we are free to guess and wonder.
thoughts for the day.
thoughts for the day.
#156
Drifting
well he could elaborate some on it that's all I'm saying... he tuned it so it would be nice to see the mod list and numbers listed someplace. but not everyone is about helping the cause so if the individual wants to remain obscure I guess we are free to guess and wonder.
thoughts for the day.
thoughts for the day.
#157
Drifting
Yes, I will be over in the west coast to visit him soon. I emailed him and after a few emails he asked "what car?" I was hesitant, but told him and he knew I was about to ask about the RDX. We went over the mods that I have and future mods and decided that this particular build could not be properly tuned via etune.
#158
Intermediate
well he could elaborate some on it that's all I'm saying... he tuned it so it would be nice to see the mod list and numbers listed someplace. but not everyone is about helping the cause so if the individual wants to remain obscure I guess we are free to guess and wonder.
thoughts for the day.
thoughts for the day.
#160
Drifting