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Old 08-07-2012, 11:26 PM
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Another run of Eibachs? Heeltoe can do it!

Hi there, I know there is a coilover option out now but we actually have some friends at Eibach who are willing to produce another run for us! We want to push it forward but before we commit we did want to see how much interest there is in this. We are looking at pricing between $250-300 depending on the interest level we see. We know there are a good lot of people who would like this more conservative suspension option...be heard in this thread!
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For the Eibach - I would be interested.

Do you know how many people is needed?
This kit would not require a camber kit correct?
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Eibach sounds awesome! the coilover option is a bit pricey for me.
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I just wish there was something other then OEM front struts to pair the springs with, see if we could get Koni or Bilstein... hell even Tokico in on making something for us.
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I would be down, just gotta know if we would have to get the camber kit as well
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I've had the OEM struts eibach springs for +2 years and the combo seems to holding up just fine (so far). I have just under 40,000 miles with the combo and no signs of trouble yet (73,000 miles total on RDX). The ride quality for every day cruising around town and long trips seems to be about the same to me. It might be a different story with the +10 RDX with softer set-up and FWD models without sh-awd.

The combo of eibach springs+OEM struts+sh-awd+high performance all season tires work very well with the RDX. I still have to remind myself this is a +4000lbs top heavy CUV before I hit the curves without power.
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I am not a really huge proponent of camber kits in general, and with the degree of lowering these springs offer it is not likely to be an issue at all. Camber increases the more you lower. I think camber kits are becoming a hot issue now with the coilovers being offered that lower more dramatically that the springs had to this point.
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I'm very interested, been trying to find an Eibach kit for 2+ years now
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Since I am not familiar with the previous kit(s), how much would this spring lower the car, and is this for both the front and rear, or just the front?
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I'm in for sure!
Old 08-09-2012, 06:31 AM
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The last kit lowered the car 1.3" in the front and 1" in the rear, or it may be the other way around. The difference was noticeable to me and it made the car look much mor aggressive.
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Originally Posted by dcmodels
Since I am not familiar with the previous kit(s), how much would this spring lower the car, and is this for both the front and rear, or just the front?
This photo was taken when I first installed the Eibach springs a few years ago. I forgot to measure the before to see how much of a drop with the springs. I have the OEM 18 inch tires on the RDX. It would look even better with 19-20 inch tires/rims.


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Originally Posted by Lanesky_OH8RDX
I just wish there was something other then OEM front struts to pair the springs with, see if we could get Koni or Bilstein... hell even Tokico in on making something for us.
You've hit the nail on the head. Your going to need them eventually if your lowering the car.
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It is a nice sensible drop. I am doing some math here and I can sell these for different prices depending on how many people can get an order in right away.

Think we can get 20 people at $329? If so, I can have these in about 90 days.
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
You've hit the nail on the head. Your going to need them eventually if your lowering the car.
This comment is part true and part not really accurate. It really depends on the degree that the car is lowered and how much firmer the springs are than the stock ones. In this case the lowering rate and the spring rate are mild changes from stock.

We know from people's personal experience here that these springs do not overly stress the stock shocks/struts and therefore YES you will need to replace the shocks eventually, but that is not necessarily because you are lowering the car. The stock dampers wear out over time, even in a stock setup. While you might need to replace the stock parts sooner than normal with these springs, we do not believe the loss of shock life is going to exceed an acceptable amount.

I have had cars on springs lowered 2" and more, and in these cases the shocks were gone in less than 6 months! But the RDX setup here is milder, especially when considering the longer travel range of the SUV suspension it has.

This 1.5" drop is not going to dramatically impact the life of the shocks. From what I hear many owners feel the RDX ride is pretty firm already, owing to an aggressive damper setup from the factory, further strengthening my case.

That being said I agree that getting some aftermarket parts would be an improvement in handling over the stock dampers. And with a successful springs run, we might be able to campaign for some Konis or Bilsteins to compliment them! I have a contact at Bilstein, just need to prove some demand.
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It's 99 percent accurate.
Not trying to block sales here, just adding my educated opinion. I've talked to half of the custom shops here in Oregon. EVERY one of them recommends a closely matched adjustable shock/strut on my Speed 6. I ended up choosing the H&R Coil-Over Suspension. The factory struts on ANY vehicle are designed for a specific range. When you alter, or in this case shorten, that range of motion, both lifespan and performance will suffer. Any type of suspension modification should be carefully considered, and tuned, if possible, to that specific vehicle.

EDiT: On a positive note, it looks like the RDX struts are fairly reliable and well built. The Mazda struts on the other hand were not. Best of luck whatever route you may choose.

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In GENERAL, I agree with the other shops and say the same thing. In fact I actually wrote about it here:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-arti...ay-or-nay.html

This however is not taking into account the degree of lowering. In my experience which is all Honda/Acura, the dampers in Honda/Acura vehicles are, as you noticed, very high quality Showa built units. They last a very long time under normal use, and when run with mild or moderate springs they don't seem to have much of an issue. It isn't just the RDX. TSX and TL people here will say the same thing...Pro Kits are fine on stock shocks and don't wear them out at any alarming rate.

In my mind the relationship between vehicle height and stock shock life is parabolic, not linear. As the lowering increases the life degrades at an exponential rate. But small lowering amounts don't have as large of an impact.
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My hard driving style doesn't help either! I blame my Italian father.
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I can recommend these springs. They're not too low so I have never bottomed out.

My only issue is with the struts. If you can get some adjustable ones then I'm all in.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
It is a nice sensible drop. I am doing some math here and I can sell these for different prices depending on how many people can get an order in right away.

Think we can get 20 people at $329? If so, I can have these in about 90 days.
What happen to the 250 - 300 price range?
Can put deposit right now
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If there was a Bilstein option for shocks and struts for the RDX, I would definitely buy the Eibachs and Bilsteins together and throw them on. I am just of the mind set to pair a performance spring with a performance shock. I have only done suspension on my cars when Bilstein was an option. a bit of a fanboy yes. lol
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Originally Posted by JCRDX11
What happen to the 250 - 300 price range?
Can put deposit right now
I was looking around and doing some math and the initial price thought was a bit too low. But the $329 is actually not far off the mark from where these were selling for before anyway...
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How do we get the ball rolling with this?
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I would be interested in this. Was thinking coilovers initially but dont think I'm doing rims anytime soon!
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I just head back from Eibach today. This deal is looking a bit more promising with their lasted email. I am trying to get approval from the bean counters now.
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i was probably the last person in the US to get a set and i paid 360 plus 20$ shipping for mine.. so a 330 price is a good deal..
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I'm in. Just gotta know when and how much. Gotta save that moolah
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IMPORTANT:

IF YOU ARE READY TO ORDER NOW, AS IN TODAY, A SET OF EIBACH SPRINGS FOR YOUR 07-12 RDX FOR $329 PLUS SHIPPING....

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IF YOU ARE READY TO ORDER NOW, AS IN TODAY, A SET OF EIBACH SPRINGS FOR YOUR 07-12 RDX FOR $329 PLUS SHIPPING....

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Was reading thru my phone - What is the shipping cost?
Damn - thankful that you are getting the eibach back but price keep going up every other day.
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Originally Posted by JCRDX11
Was reading thru my phone - What is the shipping cost?
Damn - thankful that you are getting the eibach back but price keep going up every other day.

It does? I ESTIMATED $250-300 before, and then I confirmed $329...Sounds like I could make it higher than $350! But, if we did that it would be quite some time down the road.

Shipping cost is most likely going to run around $15-25 depending on your location.
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Any other takers?
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Bump - 5 more to go....!
I know someone that know someone that might want this kit also.

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