2008 Rdx
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From HuggiesHappyBaby
Third Row Safety
Very little is known about the safety of third-row seats because neither the government nor the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety conducts crash tests that gauge how third-row passengers would be affected in a rear collision. This doesn't necessarily mean you should avoid a third row, but keep the following points in mind:
Distance from the rear glass While there are no official guidelines as to how far a third row should be from the rear glass, "it's safe to say that the closer vehicle occupants are to the crush zone, the more likely they are to be injured in a crash," says auto-safety consultant Paul Sheridan. For some context, the Ford Explorer's third bench is about 13 inches from the back glass, while the Buick Rendezvous' is just 8 inches from the back.
Investigate safety features Third rows are often cheated of the safety features afforded to passengers in other parts of the car. Make sure that side curtain air bags and also rollover canopies (if available) extend all the way back to protect third-row passengers. It's crucial that every third-row seating position have a shoulder belt and head restraint -- in the event of a crash the latter will prevent heads from snapping back and crashing through the rear glass.
Rethink rear-facing or side-facing benches Car seats and boosters can only be used in forward-facing vehicle seats. That means that these handy little jump seats can't be used until your child is ready for an adult belt -- usually at about age 8. By that point, he may be too big to squeeze in the back comfortably.
Very little is known about the safety of third-row seats because neither the government nor the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety conducts crash tests that gauge how third-row passengers would be affected in a rear collision. This doesn't necessarily mean you should avoid a third row, but keep the following points in mind:
Distance from the rear glass While there are no official guidelines as to how far a third row should be from the rear glass, "it's safe to say that the closer vehicle occupants are to the crush zone, the more likely they are to be injured in a crash," says auto-safety consultant Paul Sheridan. For some context, the Ford Explorer's third bench is about 13 inches from the back glass, while the Buick Rendezvous' is just 8 inches from the back.
Investigate safety features Third rows are often cheated of the safety features afforded to passengers in other parts of the car. Make sure that side curtain air bags and also rollover canopies (if available) extend all the way back to protect third-row passengers. It's crucial that every third-row seating position have a shoulder belt and head restraint -- in the event of a crash the latter will prevent heads from snapping back and crashing through the rear glass.
Rethink rear-facing or side-facing benches Car seats and boosters can only be used in forward-facing vehicle seats. That means that these handy little jump seats can't be used until your child is ready for an adult belt -- usually at about age 8. By that point, he may be too big to squeeze in the back comfortably.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by Nyjumpman23
Oh, and Ledwinka, I agree with your factor, but
the worse part about buying a lexas/toyota, your required to apply a PACKAGE in order to obtain the car. It's kind of like, why do I need all the certain crap, and pay more, when I just want to configure it the way "I" or "you" like it?
the worse part about buying a lexas/toyota, your required to apply a PACKAGE in order to obtain the car. It's kind of like, why do I need all the certain crap, and pay more, when I just want to configure it the way "I" or "you" like it?
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2008 Tls?
Originally Posted by White92
08 MDX will come with both Nimbus Gray Metallic and Sterling Gray Metallic. Both will come in either Ebony or Taupe interior colors. They look pretty similar on the 1 inch swatches that we have. Obviously they will look different in person.
The bordeaux is back and is still only available in the Apsen White Pearl and Formal Black.
The bordeaux is back and is still only available in the Apsen White Pearl and Formal Black.
ACURA ENTHUSIAST
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From: NYC
Hopefully, one of us are able to obtain more info on the drop date(official release datE) on the Acura RDX '08 - and changes made...cause as of rite now...
stated as -
more of a ratio of 70:30 (70 being more so true) - that there will auto dim mirror standard, dual power memory seat - and change of external colors.
If they validate it, it would be a proper stance to wait.
Oh and other question would be that -
if they make much of these standards, there would be doubt the price would be raised by much from the base MSRP of '07 correct - say...w/ tech package comes out to be 36,000 - so the '08 would probably be 37,000 (usually raises of mere 500 to a 1000) - like i said, its just a bare estimate.
stated as -
more of a ratio of 70:30 (70 being more so true) - that there will auto dim mirror standard, dual power memory seat - and change of external colors.
If they validate it, it would be a proper stance to wait.
Oh and other question would be that -
if they make much of these standards, there would be doubt the price would be raised by much from the base MSRP of '07 correct - say...w/ tech package comes out to be 36,000 - so the '08 would probably be 37,000 (usually raises of mere 500 to a 1000) - like i said, its just a bare estimate.
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From: Stuck in traffic south of Burbank
Originally Posted by Nyjumpman23
Hopefully, one of us are able to obtain more info on the drop date(official release datE) on the Acura RDX '08 - and changes made...cause as of rite now...
stated as -
more of a ratio of 70:30 (70 being more so true) - that there will auto dim mirror standard, dual power memory seat - and change of external colors.
If they validate it, it would be a proper stance to wait.
Oh and other question would be that -
if they make much of these standards, there would be doubt the price would be raised by much from the base MSRP of '07 correct - say...w/ tech package comes out to be 36,000 - so the '08 would probably be 37,000 (usually raises of mere 500 to a 1000) - like i said, its just a bare estimate.
stated as -
more of a ratio of 70:30 (70 being more so true) - that there will auto dim mirror standard, dual power memory seat - and change of external colors.
If they validate it, it would be a proper stance to wait.
Oh and other question would be that -
if they make much of these standards, there would be doubt the price would be raised by much from the base MSRP of '07 correct - say...w/ tech package comes out to be 36,000 - so the '08 would probably be 37,000 (usually raises of mere 500 to a 1000) - like i said, its just a bare estimate.
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Originally Posted by darth62
Again, consider Acura/Honda's history: They often add substantial features in a model run without changing the price much. The TSX got dual power memory seat, sat radio, heated outside mirrors, and other features WITHOUT a substantial change in price.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by creativeguy
That was at the MMC, after 2 or 3 years. That won't happen for the RDX until at least 2009.
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Huh?
The slow sales in my opinion are simply because they went with a boxy look. I see tons of TSX's (sleek design and good price) and MDX's (great body style) on the roads. If they make it a bit more sporty in the front and rear I think they'll be a jump in sales, espeically if the price comes down a bit.
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When people come in looking at the TSX and TL we talk about how much car you get for your money. There is alot of value in these two models, the RDX on the other hand doesn't have the same value appeal. If it had standard Bluetooth, power passenger seat and memory seats at a little lower price there would be a value story to tell.
In addition it has less overall interior/cargo space than the competition and when someone comes back from test driving an RDX they either love the way it rides and handles or it's just too firm. Don't get me wrong, the RDX is alot of fun to drive and everyone that has purchased one from us absolutely loves it. But these are the reasons that we believe the RDX has not sold well.
In addition it has less overall interior/cargo space than the competition and when someone comes back from test driving an RDX they either love the way it rides and handles or it's just too firm. Don't get me wrong, the RDX is alot of fun to drive and everyone that has purchased one from us absolutely loves it. But these are the reasons that we believe the RDX has not sold well.
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From: DFW
Originally Posted by VANDY
When people come in looking at the TSX and TL we talk about how much car you get for your money. There is alot of value in these two models, the RDX on the other hand doesn't have the same value appeal. If it had standard Bluetooth, power passenger seat and memory seats at a little lower price there would be a value story to tell.
In addition it has less overall interior/cargo space than the competition and when someone comes back from test driving an RDX they either love the way it rides and handles or it's just too firm. Don't get me wrong, the RDX is alot of fun to drive and everyone that has purchased one from us absolutely loves it. But these are the reasons that we believe the RDX has not sold well.
In addition it has less overall interior/cargo space than the competition and when someone comes back from test driving an RDX they either love the way it rides and handles or it's just too firm. Don't get me wrong, the RDX is alot of fun to drive and everyone that has purchased one from us absolutely loves it. But these are the reasons that we believe the RDX has not sold well.
So really, it has no competition. I think the problem is that it is such a narrowly defined vehicle (it took me 6 words to descirbe it). The X3 doesn't exactly fly off the lots, and it is a much more established vehicle from a more established brand. It would sell better if they softened it up and added some luxo features, but I would probably have jumped to the X3 if they had. I do not want to drive a boat around.
Also in terms of cargo space it is right there with the X3. Maybe just a touch smaller, but the back seat feels roomier. It is not supposed to be big. That is what vans are for. What are they comparing it to?
In the end, I think people may be expecting a smaller, cheaper RX350 and are disappointed that it doesn't drive like a lincoln towncar. Sure a few people may turn their nose up at the lack of the power seat, etc. as well, but not too many.
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Well..How bout this..based on comfort.
I know a poster on here was 6'6 and couldnt fit well in the car, and had back problems..i fergot his name..
but I'm 6'1, i sat in it..it seemed fine, but I didn't get to test drive it, So i have very vague clarity.
I moved my seat down and back, and the person behind me still had leg room. I guess when you jump from a regular car to a suv, your view is alot more different.
Any tall people have problems(via back or anything else) or are fine w/ it?
I currently drive a Civic, but its so hard for me to bend down to get in my car sometimes, but then, it was all i could afford.
I know a poster on here was 6'6 and couldnt fit well in the car, and had back problems..i fergot his name..
but I'm 6'1, i sat in it..it seemed fine, but I didn't get to test drive it, So i have very vague clarity.
I moved my seat down and back, and the person behind me still had leg room. I guess when you jump from a regular car to a suv, your view is alot more different.
Any tall people have problems(via back or anything else) or are fine w/ it?
I currently drive a Civic, but its so hard for me to bend down to get in my car sometimes, but then, it was all i could afford.
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Originally Posted by brizey
See, I think it has a great value proposition. It's only real competitor in terms of vehicle type (small sporty entry level luxury crossover) is the BMX X3, and it is significantly more expensive. It has no other competition except out of class vehicles like the CX-7 (not luxury brand) and the RX350 (not sporty, mid-size) and the Land Rover (not sporty, too expensize).
So really, it has no competition. I think the problem is that it is such a narrowly defined vehicle (it took me 6 words to descirbe it). The X3 doesn't exactly fly off the lots, and it is a much more established vehicle from a more established brand. It would sell better if they softened it up and added some luxo features, but I would probably have jumped to the X3 if they had. I do not want to drive a boat around.
Also in terms of cargo space it is right there with the X3. Maybe just a touch smaller, but the back seat feels roomier. It is not supposed to be big. That is what vans are for. What are they comparing it to?
In the end, I think people may be expecting a smaller, cheaper RX350 and are disappointed that it doesn't drive like a lincoln towncar. Sure a few people may turn their nose up at the lack of the power seat, etc. as well, but not too many.
So really, it has no competition. I think the problem is that it is such a narrowly defined vehicle (it took me 6 words to descirbe it). The X3 doesn't exactly fly off the lots, and it is a much more established vehicle from a more established brand. It would sell better if they softened it up and added some luxo features, but I would probably have jumped to the X3 if they had. I do not want to drive a boat around.
Also in terms of cargo space it is right there with the X3. Maybe just a touch smaller, but the back seat feels roomier. It is not supposed to be big. That is what vans are for. What are they comparing it to?
In the end, I think people may be expecting a smaller, cheaper RX350 and are disappointed that it doesn't drive like a lincoln towncar. Sure a few people may turn their nose up at the lack of the power seat, etc. as well, but not too many.
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From: Stuck in traffic south of Burbank
Originally Posted by creativeguy
That was at the MMC, after 2 or 3 years. That won't happen for the RDX until at least 2009.
The TSX didn't really experience a MMX until the third year of production, and that involved cosmetic changes to the body and a small jump in horsepower.
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From: Virginia
Originally Posted by Nyjumpman23
option - mp3 cd player - $551 OPTION?!!!!
isnt' it supposed to be default....wow?!?
isnt' it supposed to be default....wow?!?
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what defines luxury
Regarding memory seat and power passenger seat - for the well known luxury brands, it's the number of options available, and for every vehicle, one can have many choices, from performance, to comfort, to audio.
Acura continues to use the one size fits all approach and yeah, and by not having some of the features available, it might save cost but it depletes people of choices. Most other luxury makers differentiate cars by size, thus you can have all the luxury features you want on IS or 3 series, and it can overlap with the bigger brothers in price. And if you want to save money, you can have a bare bone, no leather Lexus or BMW.
If Acura ever wants to seriously compete, to me, they have to offer more choices. You'd think that if Honda/Acura is so good at engineering, can't they figure out a way to package the vehicle so that the optional luxury items can easily be installed at factory? Ultimately, it's bad decision from the management.
RDX should come with a 2WD base model, have softer or sport suspension, and more luxury goods so that it distances itself from the CR-V. You can have a choice with a CR-V, why not the RDX?
Of course, it could all be just the styling of the RDX...
Acura continues to use the one size fits all approach and yeah, and by not having some of the features available, it might save cost but it depletes people of choices. Most other luxury makers differentiate cars by size, thus you can have all the luxury features you want on IS or 3 series, and it can overlap with the bigger brothers in price. And if you want to save money, you can have a bare bone, no leather Lexus or BMW.
If Acura ever wants to seriously compete, to me, they have to offer more choices. You'd think that if Honda/Acura is so good at engineering, can't they figure out a way to package the vehicle so that the optional luxury items can easily be installed at factory? Ultimately, it's bad decision from the management.
RDX should come with a 2WD base model, have softer or sport suspension, and more luxury goods so that it distances itself from the CR-V. You can have a choice with a CR-V, why not the RDX?
Of course, it could all be just the styling of the RDX...
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From: DFW
Originally Posted by TMQ
Most other luxury makers differentiate cars by size, thus you can have all the luxury features you want on IS or 3 series, and it can overlap with the bigger brothers in price. And if you want to save money, you can have a bare bone, no leather Lexus or BMW. ..
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From: NY
Originally Posted by brizey
Have you ever actually tried to get a stripped BMW? The dealers never order them for stock, and will want full MSRP to order one for you. They might as well not exist. Trust me, I have tried.
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From: Connecticut
2008 RDX info from salesman
The local sales guy told me that the only major change for 2008 will be (you guessed it) memory seats! He was also told the auto-dimming mirror would be standard as well, and the entry level RDX would get a few of the tech package features.
Whew! At least there is nothing "big time" to make me want to trade mine in.
BTW - He said they will be out by "the end of the summer"
Of course, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
Whew! At least there is nothing "big time" to make me want to trade mine in.
BTW - He said they will be out by "the end of the summer"
Of course, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
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*jumps for joY*
o0o0 @ memory seats n Auto-dim mirror*
but....then again
unless we see it in physical writing, and physically in the car, it's very hard to believe.
*kicks LEG* @ the end of summer?!
Come on....bring the damn 2008 out NOW!!!
thats what i say....*temporary online revolt*
o0o0 @ memory seats n Auto-dim mirror*
but....then again
unless we see it in physical writing, and physically in the car, it's very hard to believe.
*kicks LEG* @ the end of summer?!
Come on....bring the damn 2008 out NOW!!!
thats what i say....*temporary online revolt*
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Originally Posted by Nyjumpman23
*jumps for joY*
o0o0 @ memory seats n Auto-dim mirror*
but....then again
unless we see it in physical writing, and physically in the car, it's very hard to believe.
*kicks LEG* @ the end of summer?!
Come on....bring the damn 2008 out NOW!!!
thats what i say....*temporary online revolt*
o0o0 @ memory seats n Auto-dim mirror*
but....then again
unless we see it in physical writing, and physically in the car, it's very hard to believe.
*kicks LEG* @ the end of summer?!
Come on....bring the damn 2008 out NOW!!!
thats what i say....*temporary online revolt*
Need to purchase the 2008 before my lease runs out in early Aug.
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2008
Boy I wish some definitive news on the 08's would come out soon...I'm really ready to take the plunge but just can't do it until I learn of what the 08's will have. If they are supposed to start production in July, then maybe after July 1 we'll start hearing something? I sure hope so...the wait is killing me!
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Here's my guess:
Power passenger seat
Memory Seats
Bluetooth/Handsfree Link
Maybe an autodimming rear view mirror
Some other people suggested a softer ride, but I don't think much is going to change.
These changes are only minor and if you can live without them then just get the 2007 and save some money.
Seriously though Acura wouldn't make drastic changes to a brand new car...only minor.
Power passenger seat
Memory Seats
Bluetooth/Handsfree Link
Maybe an autodimming rear view mirror
Some other people suggested a softer ride, but I don't think much is going to change.
These changes are only minor and if you can live without them then just get the 2007 and save some money.
Seriously though Acura wouldn't make drastic changes to a brand new car...only minor.
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I'm really curious as how Acura will play this. On the plus side, the CUV market is about to boom and sales in Canada are healthy. On the downside, there will be some potentially great new competitors in the next year (EX35 and Tiguan have my interest) and sales are slow in the U.S.
Will adding one or two extra features really do much to boost sales? I think Acura should be more aggressive and throw in all the extra features (bluetooth on base, auto-dim mirror, memory, power passenger, maybe even slightly softer suspension), take the lead like they did when they introduced the first MDX, and let the others catch up.
Then they can work on fuel economy, adding led-lights, a cargo light, moonroof option, rear-climate control, fixing the center console, etc. for the mid-cycle refresh.
I would also like to see the Transformers movie NOW. So get to it Acura.
Will adding one or two extra features really do much to boost sales? I think Acura should be more aggressive and throw in all the extra features (bluetooth on base, auto-dim mirror, memory, power passenger, maybe even slightly softer suspension), take the lead like they did when they introduced the first MDX, and let the others catch up.
Then they can work on fuel economy, adding led-lights, a cargo light, moonroof option, rear-climate control, fixing the center console, etc. for the mid-cycle refresh.
I would also like to see the Transformers movie NOW. So get to it Acura.
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Originally Posted by Boon
I'm really curious as how Acura will play this. On the plus side, the CUV market is about to boom and sales in Canada are healthy. On the downside, there will be some potentially great new competitors in the next year (EX35 and Tiguan have my interest) and sales are slow in the U.S.
Will adding one or two extra features really do much to boost sales? I think Acura should be more aggressive and throw in all the extra features (bluetooth on base, auto-dim mirror, memory, power passenger, maybe even slightly softer suspension), take the lead like they did when they introduced the first MDX, and let the others catch up.
Then they can work on fuel economy, adding led-lights, a cargo light, moonroof option, rear-climate control, fixing the center console, etc. for the mid-cycle refresh.
I would also like to see the Transformers movie NOW. So get to it Acura.
Will adding one or two extra features really do much to boost sales? I think Acura should be more aggressive and throw in all the extra features (bluetooth on base, auto-dim mirror, memory, power passenger, maybe even slightly softer suspension), take the lead like they did when they introduced the first MDX, and let the others catch up.
Then they can work on fuel economy, adding led-lights, a cargo light, moonroof option, rear-climate control, fixing the center console, etc. for the mid-cycle refresh.
I would also like to see the Transformers movie NOW. So get to it Acura.