For those with a pnp hid kit.... problems with bulbs not firing up

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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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For those with a pnp hid kit.... problems with bulbs not firing up

Got my kit in today from the ebay seller. Everything visually looked/smelled brand new, and I'm assuming he wouldn't ship DOA equipment seeing as he has 100 percent feedback for several years.


Well when I opened it up, I found that the kit didn't come with a built in fuse/relay harness kit. It just had a plug and play harness that makes the ballast derrive all the power directly from the low beam plugs and not the car battery. Kind of alarming, but I've read around and though non-relayed kits are beneficial for protection of your stock wiring system, they're not mandatory.

Well I plugged everything in and quadruple checked my connections. No firing on either of the bulbs. Nothing at all. Tried switching ballasts/bulb pairing, rechecking/seating connections...nothing. Neither lights up. This is quite perplexing, but I came accross some threads online where they say that some cars (including the 8th gen civic) have reversed polarity headlight connections, and that they had to just flip around and solder off the small stub of the plug and everything fired up correctly.

Just curious if any of you have had this issue with our cars? I'm sure the headlight connection/car fuses are ok as the halogens fired up perfectly when I reconnected everything and gave up.

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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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From: ShitsBurgh
Most plug and play 9006 kits that I've seen don't come with relays, try flipping the wiring harness plugs upside down, my 4runner I had to flip the wire clips the opposite way from how i thought they should go on, and then they fired right up.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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argggg

yeah you're right man, I just compared the 9006 plug wires on this kit and it's opposite of all the ones I see online (positive and negative leads are flipped)

can the plug still go into the car's 9006 plug reversed without filing down the little stub? Or will I have to file it/dremel it down?
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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ahh I just realized that the inside of the socket on the kit of course has the little 'rib' in the center on one side just like a regular headlight....meaning it only goes in one way and I can't just flip it around and plug in....


so do I just flip the connection to the ballasts? Cuz that means I have to modify the ballast clip
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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I had the same problem with mine try putting them in a bigger car first i used my girls legend and now everything works great.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Yes that was where I flipped it sorry I forgot to write that part, flip the connectors to the ballasts that's the only way I got my pnp HID kit to fire up on the runner. I didn't have to modify the clips, just clipped it on backwards
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fliplyricist1
ahh I just realized that the inside of the socket on the kit of course has the little 'rib' in the center on one side just like a regular headlight....meaning it only goes in one way and I can't just flip it around and plug in....


so do I just flip the connection to the ballasts? Cuz that means I have to modify the ballast clip
try flip those wires around the one that plugs to your ballast....you could just plug it in just use a screwdriver or something cuz it has the big metal piece in the way..but it still does fit ...or remove the wires from the plug and switch it around.....

you dont have to mod the ballast clip..... it will fit just plig it in and use some thing to make the 2 black clips clear the metal piece..then it will lock in...
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Yes that was where I flipped it sorry I forgot to write that part, flip the connectors to the ballasts that's the only way I got my pnp HID kit to fire up on the runner. I didn't have to modify the clips, just clipped it on backwards

yup...it makes me wonder if they even check the kits before they sell them....

I had over 50 kits and all of them were like that....
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by acuraracer96744
try flip those wires around the one that plugs to your ballast....you could just plug it in just use a screwdriver or something cuz it has the big metal piece in the way..but it still does fit ...or remove the wires from the plug and switch it around.....

you dont have to mod the ballast clip..... it will fit just plig it in and use some thing to make the 2 black clips clear the metal piece..then it will lock in...
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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thanks a lot guys!! 97 no probs dude, right after your first response made me realize you were right...and all I needed was to use a small pair of tweezers and removed both prong connections on the 9006 plug on the kit and swapped their positions. everything works fine and perfectly now, thanks guys
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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lets see pics then . . . hehe
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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does anyone have a relay with their kit?
im not sure if i want to spend the extra $20 for a relay harness if everyone is running fine without theirs.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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I run mine with 2 relays...one for each side...very easy to do...get all parts from any auto store...

initially installed without relays but I find the HID are really unstable running off the lower amperage from the stock harness...and with stock harness, the HID fires up with an asthmatic and rice feel to it ...now they fire up like a high quality stock system...
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spooky3point0
lets see pics then . . . hehe
hehe soon, after my lip is painted


IMO our housings aren't THAT bad with reflector based hid's....at least better than my old jdm 4th gen accord h4 housings....glare is still quite intense at a 45 degree viewing angle to the sides, but haven't caught any heat from anyone yet

this 6k is actually quite blue/almost purple....very sick from a looks perspective...and still much better than stock. But coming from a retrofit-only history, I feel dirty
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
does anyone have a relay with their kit?
im not sure if i want to spend the extra $20 for a relay harness if everyone is running fine without theirs.
mine has a relay. its a OTTO kit. but its a Bi-xenon.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
does anyone have a relay with their kit?
im not sure if i want to spend the extra $20 for a relay harness if everyone is running fine without theirs.
I have them, but only cuz my d2s ballasts for my projectors need the parallel power, plug and play kits DO NOT need them, they're designed to draw on your stock wires
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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is it true you lose high beam if you get a kit that isnt bi-xenon?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
is it true you lose high beam if you get a kit that isnt bi-xenon?
eh, no b/c the CL has separe high's and low's. in my legend, since i have JDM headlights (oem legend headlights, are saperate high's and low's but JDM uses a hi/low bulb), yea, so i got a bi-xenon H3 hit and modded the housing to fit. one day i'll do something with projects we'll see...
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
is it true you lose high beam if you get a kit that isnt bi-xenon?
If you do bi-xenon you get 2 high beams
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
does anyone have a relay with their kit?
im not sure if i want to spend the extra $20 for a relay harness if everyone is running fine without theirs.

the kits I sold came with relays... but never did use them....

they work fine with out it....

if you need a relay lmk i can send you one......
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fliplyricist1
hehe soon, after my lip is painted


IMO our housings aren't THAT bad with reflector based hid's....at least better than my old jdm 4th gen accord h4 housings....glare is still quite intense at a 45 degree viewing angle to the sides, but haven't caught any heat from anyone yet

this 6k is actually quite blue/almost purple....very sick from a looks perspective...and still much better than stock. But coming from a retrofit-only history, I feel dirty

hahaha once put hids you never wanna go back to those cheap bulbs.....
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
is it true you lose high beam if you get a kit that isnt bi-xenon?

im running 8k low beam 3k high beam......
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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arg im having alot of trouble installing mine also.
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