Does anyone have a vtec controller, how much did u pay for install, im lookin into buyin an apexi one, anyone know of any better ones??

 

vafcII is the one you want, but keep in mind the install is one thing, tuning is another. You don't need a vtec controller until you build up your motor, headers, exhaust, pullies, or your vtec controller wont' really do squat. After you put on those mods (if you plan to mod) THEN you want the vtec controller and tuned

 

yeah, no point really. save ur money, lower ur car

 

yeah well i know about that, i was just wonderin how much an install would cost

 

Install would be free if you do it yourself. Its not that hard. I put mine in myself.

 

so a V-AFCII would better suit a motor already with I/H/E???

 

It's more or less pointless with a stock motor

 

the more you have the better. =)

 

i would get it but tuning would be a bitch, and would it hurt my gas mileage.

 

tuning it properly would actually help your gas milage...

 

The key is "properly".

With any make and model - tuning is somthing done in a controled and monitored environment like on a dyno with a wideband o2 sensor. Unless you can see your air/fuel ratio and how it's efected by the changes you are making it's all just guess work and seat of the pants dynoing, and that can be dangerous in the hands of an amatuer.

Not to say you shouldn't tune your own car, but be aware that there is much more too it than pressing buttons. The VAFC II is a powerful tool in the right hands, but as mentioned it's a waste of money on a stock vehicle.

 

not necesarrily. the stock 3.0 runs pretty rich past about 3500 rpms.... not that you would gain more than 5 or 6 hp by leaning it out though.

 

i hear with full bolt ons and a Vafc tuned you gain 10+ to the floor off a dyno VAFC II lets you run 2 fueling maps instead of just one, and the increments of Vtec engage points are smaller its something like you can moved the engage point between every 250 rpm instead of just 500 more "fine tune"

 

if i had a h22 i would get it. otherwise IMO its a waste on our single slammer ecno motor. unless its totally worked out.

 

i need to pick one up. Its almost worth it, but it another bill for tunning

 

you acn actually specifiy at what points in the rpm range you want to adjust the fuel. You only get 12 points though, and you can choose any rpm in 100 rpm increments.

there aren't really 2 fuel maps to choose from though. There is just one map setting that is always used, but depending on throttle/vtec engagement it uses a different set of adjustments.

so there is a low throttle and high throttle settings for when the engine is on the low cam lobes (non-vtec), and there is also a high and low throttle settings for when the engine has the vtec cams engaged.

there are really 4 sections where you need to set up the map, but it just depends on the throttle and vtec engagement that depends on which map is used.

I wish there were two fuel maps otherwise i woudl tune one for nitrous and one for NA.

 

two fuel maps would be awsome?

 

two fuel maps would be awsome !!! does hondata have something like that ?

 

thanks for clearin that up