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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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my 2.2CL is bone stock right now, i want to lower it to give it a better stance..
what compaines are good and don't cost too much...
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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try searching eibach sportlines springs and kyb agx shocks are very common.. and you wont need a camber kit
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
try searching eibach sportlines springs and kyb agx shocks are very common.. and you wont need a camber kit
What about the Eibach Pro Kit, and really the sportlines you dont need a camber, or thats only really cuz he has a 97?! My old Civic hatchback i had a 2.5 inch lower...really needed a camber kit. lol. Since we have already have gas shocks will it work with the pro kit or sportlines just installing them?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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What about the Eibach Pro Kit, and really the sportlines you dont need a camber, or thats only really cuz he has a 97?! My old Civic hatchback i had a 2.5 inch lower...really needed a camber kit. lol. Since we have already have gas shocks will it work with the pro kit or sportlines just installing them?

if you get a pro kit, you will need a camber kit.. and no it isnt really necesary to get shocks when you get sportlines but a lot of people say that the car will get a little bit lower once it settles but the obvious huge advantage is being aable to adjust to the shocks to the way you like them and for your civic the kits effect every car differently
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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you wont need a camber kit with the pro-kit, i had the H&R's which drop it even more and i didnt really need a camber kit. I have sportlines now, and you def need a camber kit, for the front
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
if you get a pro kit, you will need a camber kit.. and no it isnt really necesary to get shocks when you get sportlines but a lot of people say that the car will get a little bit lower once it settles but the obvious huge advantage is being aable to adjust to the shocks to the way you like them and for your civic the kits effect every car differently
Prokit doesn't need camber...sportlines do...I think you may have them confused
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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you caught me.. i did F up on the names. sorry to cause confusion http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...26184800000666
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Yo go with the sportlines and KYB AGX drop....plus camber kit.

Thats what I should 'ove done. Now Iam lookin' into to changing out my PROKITS for Sporlines.......cuz i like the drop alot better.

I did not do it the first time 'cuz, I wanted to save money by not buying the camber kit.

Now its gonna cost me more $.......cuz I prffr. sport lines.

which Camber kit ya'll got?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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how much different will the sportlines and kyb agx shocks feel compared to the prokit and kyb agx shocks...???

....whats the price difference between them??
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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if you buy the springs on ebay i dont think there is a price difference.... i'm pretty sure that the only difference between teh 2 springs are a half inch...
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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There's def. a difference between the PROKITS and the SPORTLINES.

Sportlines give the CL that nice slammed look. Which really makes the car look awesome.
Espcially with some 18's on.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
how much different will the sportlines and kyb agx shocks feel compared to the prokit and kyb agx shocks...???

....whats the price difference between them??
the sportlines will obviously be much stiffer, but you can dial down the shocks to compensate for some. As for ride height, some people didnt even notice much of a drop at all with their prokits so image a stock height cl with prokits and this is what a cl with sportlines looks like...

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Nice ride KLepTo.

This is a really good thread on the Pro Kit vs. Sportline discussion. CLPower has some pics of both.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ach+sportlines
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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I have the pro kit and have KYB GR2's in the box waiting to get installed. the pro kit sits nice with the stock struts, so it should sit even better with the KYb's. Depending on the road conditions by you, I would go with the pro kit. Obviously, the sportlines make the car look nicer, but it really depends on the streets u going ot be driving on.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pebecl97
I have the pro kit and have KYB GR2's in the box waiting to get installed. the pro kit sits nice with the stock struts, so it should sit even better with the KYb's. Depending on the road conditions by you, I would go with the pro kit. Obviously, the sportlines make the car look nicer, but it really depends on the streets u going ot be driving on.

yeah i kinda agree with that. I still want to keep the soft driving, but have the lower look. thats what i think the pro kit is for.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Well, you guys are comparing stock height, with pro-kit and wheels. Larger wheels will make the car look higher, so with the pro kit drop you won't notice any drop. With stock wheels, you will notice a drop.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Here is a picture compliments of someone on this board...



Obviously there is a drop. I think it looks classier and what it should look like from the factory if they had some sort of "sport package." I really don't like the sportline drop. This ain't no Integra or Civic. I think the sportline drop only looks good with huge wheels.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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BTW, the H&R, I heard, has the same drop as the Neuspeeds.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Well, you guys are comparing stock height, with pro-kit and wheels. Larger wheels will make the car look higher, so with the pro kit drop you won't notice any drop. With stock wheels, you will notice a drop.

Not true, my car looks dropped with my stocks and my 17's. It doesnt look stock height at all with the pro kit and +1 rims. I havent tried with 18's because the roads are too messed up and I already went thru one set last summer, so now I stick w/ 17's only. And my mistake, I shouldnt say "dropped", it looks lower than stock is what I should say.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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with the sportlines can u adjust the ride height....
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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on ebay the sportlines/prokit are like $180 and the KYBs are like $200 something or the other way around......

r those good prices ???
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
on ebay the sportlines/prokit are like $180 and the KYBs are like $200 something or the other way around......

r those good prices ???

The GR2's are like 160 but don't get those. They are not adjustable like the AGX's which I've seen for around 260. The pro kit's/sportlines i've seen for 160.

You cannot adjust the ride height with anything but coilovers which these are not.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
with the sportlines can u adjust the ride height....
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
with the sportlines can u adjust the ride height....
only w/ coilovers...(teins, etc)
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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3 strait posts saying the same thing..
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
3 strait posts saying the same thing..

(They're a little slow)













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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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you can't say "with so and so springs you'll need a camber kit and so and so you won't" ....get the drop you want, get an allignment and see where your camber is
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by azian21485
you can't say "with so and so springs you'll need a camber kit and so and so you won't" ....get the drop you want, get an allignment and see where your camber is

well yes you can, when you get so many people on a board with the same car you start to see paterns in a drop that everyone chooses.. so with a great number of people getting each spring it goes from trial and error to fact
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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so you're saying that if i get a certain kit i will have a garanteed camber?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by azian21485
so you're saying that if i get a certain kit i will have a garanteed camber?
not a guaranteed camber, but you will know if youre going to need a camber kit or not. If you get the pro-kits, the drop isnt as extreme as say, going with sportlines
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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so if i'm not garaunteed a specific camber, how will i know what kit and what adjustment i would need before i get an allignment
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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you and i have the same car if we got the same suspension we are both going to need/will not need a camber kit
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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so if we both had a 2.2 cl, and we both got hnr sport springs and kyb agx shocks, we would both have the same toe and camber before an allignment?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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prolly not the same.. but within the range to need a camber kit or not for sure..
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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ok, so even if the cars are the same all cars are all different from each other still right?

i've seen the same cars with the EXACT same setup get camber from -1 to -3...you will NEVER know how your car will be effected when you start messing around with stock settings...allignment settings are very touchy and are dependent of alot of variables..like the condition of your bushings and other components will affect the allignment as well as how the car reacts itself

this is why i was suggesting he get an allignment and decide from there..there is no other way to tell if he'll need a camber kit or not..obviously having a camber of -1 is alot different than -2 to some people
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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your definatly going to want to get an alignment before you decide to get a camber kit i cant argue with that.. i'm just positive that anybody over aaaaa 1.5-1.75 inch drop needs a camber kit.
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
your definatly going to want to get an alignment before you decide to get a camber kit i cant argue with that.. i'm just positive that anybody over aaaaa 1.5-1.75 inch drop needs a camber kit.

You know I like you shinilight, but I have to say something that contradicts what you're saying. I dropped my del Slo about 2 inches and I didn't need a camber kit. I got an alignment and was still within the factory specs. It wasn't until I went to about 3 inches that I needed to correct anything. Even then, It wasn't bad in the front, but the rear just needed a few washers. Sorry shinilight.
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 02:14 AM
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well that is very possible, i believe that 100% but i dont think that a person has dropped a first gen cl and didnt need a camber kit.. i have read a lot about people with sportlines and i'm pretty sure wiht the search testimonials that people that havnt gotten a camber kit got their front tires eaten up... i could be wrong and wouldnt be surprised if i was becuase my cl is sitting at stock height..
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
your definatly going to want to get an alignment before you decide to get a camber kit i cant argue with that.. i'm just positive that anybody over aaaaa 1.5-1.75 inch drop needs a camber kit.
the thing is some people are lucky and some aren't..that's why you should get an allignment, not for the toe, but to also see where your camber is to see if or what kit you need
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