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09-08-2003, 09:06 AM
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Stock Alarm troubles.
Alright, here is the deal......
Yesterday I install all of my Stereo equipment and my Stock alarm on my 97 2.2CL doesn't arm when I push the lock button on the remote. The car locks and unlocks just fine, but the alarm doesnt arm. I tested this out my keeping the drivers side window all the way down and pushing the lock button. I visibly see the doors lock. When I unlock the door and open it from OUTSIDE the car, the alarm DOESN'T go off!!!
Other things I have noted and useful information:
When I have the doors open, and push the lock button on the remote, the Alarm chirps 3 times, indicating one of the doors are open. So I don't think it is an issue with the doors. When installing all my audio stuff, I ran new wire through my doors. On the passanger side, i removed the conector and drilled through it where NO metal connectors are... everything works perfectly on that door (locks, windows, door lamp, etc.) so I don't think that is the problem. On the drivers size, i drilled a NEW hole in the door and didn't touch the connector, so I don't think that is the problem either.
Things I have tried:
1. YES! I know the "trick" with pushing the trunk release and lock. I have used that setting before and fully know how it works.
2. Tried re-shutting hood, trunk, and doors.
The Alarm armed randomly once out of the 20+ times I tried getting it to arm.
I am going to check all fuses later today when I get the time, along with what wiring I can find.
Any suggestions for checking the hood?
I also plan on adding a dual-stage shock sensor to the stock alarm once this problem is fixed.
PLEASE help me fix this as I just installed alot of $$$ worth of audio equipment in my car and want some security!
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Yesterday I install all of my Stereo equipment and my Stock alarm on my 97 2.2CL doesn't arm when I push the lock button on the remote. The car locks and unlocks just fine, but the alarm doesnt arm. I tested this out my keeping the drivers side window all the way down and pushing the lock button. I visibly see the doors lock. When I unlock the door and open it from OUTSIDE the car, the alarm DOESN'T go off!!!
Other things I have noted and useful information:
When I have the doors open, and push the lock button on the remote, the Alarm chirps 3 times, indicating one of the doors are open. So I don't think it is an issue with the doors. When installing all my audio stuff, I ran new wire through my doors. On the passanger side, i removed the conector and drilled through it where NO metal connectors are... everything works perfectly on that door (locks, windows, door lamp, etc.) so I don't think that is the problem. On the drivers size, i drilled a NEW hole in the door and didn't touch the connector, so I don't think that is the problem either.
Things I have tried:
1. YES! I know the "trick" with pushing the trunk release and lock. I have used that setting before and fully know how it works.
2. Tried re-shutting hood, trunk, and doors.
The Alarm armed randomly once out of the 20+ times I tried getting it to arm.
I am going to check all fuses later today when I get the time, along with what wiring I can find.
Any suggestions for checking the hood?
I also plan on adding a dual-stage shock sensor to the stock alarm once this problem is fixed.
PLEASE help me fix this as I just installed alot of $$$ worth of audio equipment in my car and want some security!
AIM: aaron1017
09-08-2003, 09:33 AM
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The dome light goes on and off like normal...turns on and off when opening and closing doors...It turns on and off when I push the lock and unlock on the remote also.
09-08-2003, 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by wingman
With the ignition on position II, look on the dash, is it indicating that your hood or trunk is open when in fact it is closed?
With the ignition on position II, look on the dash, is it indicating that your hood or trunk is open when in fact it is closed?
09-08-2003, 09:43 AM
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Re: Stock Alarm troubles.
I got a similar problem but I can't chirp at all. 
been trying to fix it for months. Hopefully ur thread will the one that works.
been trying to fix it for months. Hopefully ur thread will the one that works.
09-08-2003, 09:46 AM
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Right now I am leaning towards the hood sensor, where ever that may be located. The dash doesnt have a sensor for an open hood.
I recall trying to shut my hood when install stuff... but I left a screw driver there and it slammed down and didnt shut, no damage or anything.
Know where the hood sensor is Wingman?
I recall trying to shut my hood when install stuff... but I left a screw driver there and it slammed down and didnt shut, no damage or anything.
Know where the hood sensor is Wingman?
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I read the original post more carefully.
Are you stating that when you (only) unlock the doors with the key from the outside, that it doesn't trigger the alarm and make it sound?
Are you stating that when you (only) unlock the doors with the key from the outside, that it doesn't trigger the alarm and make it sound?
09-08-2003, 09:52 AM
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The car LOCKS and UNLOCKS just fine, but the alarm doesnt arm. I tested this out my keeping the drivers side window all the way down and pushing the lock button. I visibly see the doors lock. When I unlock the door and open it from OUTSIDE the car by reaching my hand inside and physically pushing the plastic lock piece, the alarm DOESN'T go off!!!
no alarm..no sound
no alarm..no sound
09-08-2003, 11:55 AM
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Alright guys... I have narrowed the problem down to my passanger door! I push the lock button on the door, and the indicator doesnt move! THE DOOR DOESNT LOCK!!! Looks like I am gonna have to remove that door panel again and try and fix things.
09-09-2003, 08:02 AM
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i haven't tested it in a while but mine has done the same thing. I keep the windows down and reach on through the window and manually unlock the door and open it...nothing happens, no alarm. If i can recall it went off once. I didn't want to track it all down to fix it so I just blindly assumed it worked, I know not smart.
09-09-2003, 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by aaron1017
Alright guys... I have narrowed the problem down to my passanger door! I push the lock button on the door, and the indicator doesnt move! THE DOOR DOESNT LOCK!!! Looks like I am gonna have to remove that door panel again and try and fix things.
Alright guys... I have narrowed the problem down to my passanger door! I push the lock button on the door, and the indicator doesnt move! THE DOOR DOESNT LOCK!!! Looks like I am gonna have to remove that door panel again and try and fix things.
09-09-2003, 02:10 PM
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Haahaahahhha, my car actually locked and armed out of the blue @ my g/f's house. All of a sudden my alarm goes off out of nowhere! I guess that wire that fixed itself came loose again. I dont have time until this weekend to try and fix the damn thing.
09-10-2003, 08:17 AM
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Since there is no reset button on the alarm, here's a shot in the dark, try disconnecting your battery wait for about 1 min. then reconnect it. Then test your alarm.
09-10-2003, 09:10 AM
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my alarm never goes off. i always thought that it would only go off if someone forcibly open the door/trunk/hood.
doesn't unlocking the door from the inside the same as unlocking the door w/ the key on the outside which turns off the alarm???
so the alarm is kinda stupid. if someone just break your window and unlock it from the inside, the alarm will just disalarm itself
anyone know anyway to test the alarm? i have a 97 3.0
doesn't unlocking the door from the inside the same as unlocking the door w/ the key on the outside which turns off the alarm???
so the alarm is kinda stupid. if someone just break your window and unlock it from the inside, the alarm will just disalarm itself
anyone know anyway to test the alarm? i have a 97 3.0
09-10-2003, 09:16 AM
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"doesn't unlocking the door from the inside the same as unlocking the door w/ the key on the outside which turns off the alarm???
so the alarm is kinda stupid. if someone just break your window and unlock it from the inside, the alarm will just disalarm itself"
Yeah, I agree that the alarm is "stupid".
Unlocking your door from the inside with the alarm "armed" will cause the siren to sound... but, unlocking with the key from the outside will "disarm" the alarm (no siren).
The "alarm" is more of a keyless entry system than an alarm.
so the alarm is kinda stupid. if someone just break your window and unlock it from the inside, the alarm will just disalarm itself"
Yeah, I agree that the alarm is "stupid".
Unlocking your door from the inside with the alarm "armed" will cause the siren to sound... but, unlocking with the key from the outside will "disarm" the alarm (no siren).
The "alarm" is more of a keyless entry system than an alarm.
09-10-2003, 11:40 AM
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so i did the lil experiment w/ the alarm. locked the car w/ the remote. wait a few seconds (like 5-10). unlock from the inside, open door. then NOTHING. not a beep... does it supposed to do that?
09-10-2003, 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Chinisimo
so i did the lil experiment w/ the alarm. locked the car w/ the remote. wait a few seconds (like 5-10). unlock from the inside, open door. then NOTHING. not a beep... does it supposed to do that?
so i did the lil experiment w/ the alarm. locked the car w/ the remote. wait a few seconds (like 5-10). unlock from the inside, open door. then NOTHING. not a beep... does it supposed to do that?
I'll double check mine to be sure.
09-10-2003, 12:19 PM
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Okay, I ran downstairs to check.
If you arm you alarm, wait about 10 seconds, and unlock the door from the inside ---- using the latch --- Not the electronic switch -- it will sound and flash the lights.
The electronic switch is the silver(chrome) switch.
Just pretend you don't have electronic door locks.
It's a stupid system.
If you arm you alarm, wait about 10 seconds, and unlock the door from the inside ---- using the latch --- Not the electronic switch -- it will sound and flash the lights.
The electronic switch is the silver(chrome) switch.
Just pretend you don't have electronic door locks.
It's a stupid system.
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Once I had my car locked in the garage with the window down and I popped the hood. That was quite a suprise, didnt know the hood had a sensor, because like some of you said its not a real alarm.
09-10-2003, 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by wingman
Okay, I ran downstairs to check.
If you arm you alarm, wait about 10 seconds, and unlock the door from the inside ---- using the latch --- Not the electronic switch -- it will sound and flash the lights.
The electronic switch is the silver(chrome) switch.
Just pretend you don't have electronic door locks.
It's a stupid system.
Okay, I ran downstairs to check.
If you arm you alarm, wait about 10 seconds, and unlock the door from the inside ---- using the latch --- Not the electronic switch -- it will sound and flash the lights.
The electronic switch is the silver(chrome) switch.
Just pretend you don't have electronic door locks.
It's a stupid system.
09-10-2003, 12:43 PM
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ok, tried it again and it works
i guess i didn't wait long enough for it...
actually just by waiting long enough, the door doesn't even need to be opened. just as soon as the latch is popped, the alarm sounds. so i guess if someone breaks the window and open it from the inside, it'll go off
i guess i didn't wait long enough for it...
actually just by waiting long enough, the door doesn't even need to be opened. just as soon as the latch is popped, the alarm sounds. so i guess if someone breaks the window and open it from the inside, it'll go off
09-10-2003, 12:46 PM
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wonder if the car will start if the alarm goes off.
i don't want to try it too many times cuz i'm going to annoy the neighbors.
maybe someone can try it. and also try it instead of manually popping the latch, maybe try the silver lever?
i don't want to try it too many times cuz i'm going to annoy the neighbors.
maybe someone can try it. and also try it instead of manually popping the latch, maybe try the silver lever?
09-10-2003, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Chinisimo
wonder if the car will start if the alarm goes off.
i don't want to try it too many times cuz i'm going to annoy the neighbors.
maybe someone can try it. and also try it instead of manually popping the latch, maybe try the silver lever?
wonder if the car will start if the alarm goes off.
i don't want to try it too many times cuz i'm going to annoy the neighbors.
maybe someone can try it. and also try it instead of manually popping the latch, maybe try the silver lever?
Yes it will start. Sticking your key in the ignition and turning it will dis-arm the alarm.
It would problaby dis-arm if you hot wired it.
The silver lever dis-arms the alarm (no sound).
I can't emphasize it enough, it is stupid.
09-10-2003, 01:52 PM
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on the subject of alarms...what kind of sound does yours make?
everyone who hears mine thinks it's an aftermarket alarm because of the way it chirps...it's very loud...unlike any alarm chirp i've heard before...kinda sounds like a bird.
All of my friends have aftermarket alarms and theirs sound nothing like mine.
everyone who hears mine thinks it's an aftermarket alarm because of the way it chirps...it's very loud...unlike any alarm chirp i've heard before...kinda sounds like a bird.
All of my friends have aftermarket alarms and theirs sound nothing like mine.
09-10-2003, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Katies99CL
on the subject of alarms...what kind of sound does yours make?
everyone who hears mine thinks it's an aftermarket alarm because of the way it chirps...it's very loud...unlike any alarm chirp i've heard before...kinda sounds like a bird.
All of my friends have aftermarket alarms and theirs sound nothing like mine.
on the subject of alarms...what kind of sound does yours make?
everyone who hears mine thinks it's an aftermarket alarm because of the way it chirps...it's very loud...unlike any alarm chirp i've heard before...kinda sounds like a bird.
All of my friends have aftermarket alarms and theirs sound nothing like mine.
09-10-2003, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Chinisimo
i don't know how to describe the sound but to me it sounds like a store burglar alarm
i don't know how to describe the sound but to me it sounds like a store burglar alarm
um..okayi dont really know what those sound like, but thanks
09-10-2003, 07:15 PM
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The car will not start if hot wired. It requires the chipped key to match the transponder on the ignition system.
The hood pin switch is in the latch mechanism itself. THis is why you see wires going up to it. There is a quick disconnect plug within a few inches of the hood mechanism, unplug it and your hood pin switch no longer works.
Speaking of, be carefull, the hood pinswitch wires run within a few inches of the opening at below the bumper. Very easy to reach in there and cut them (which will not set off the alarm, it's a normally open circuit). I re-reouted mine high and well out of reach. It took some extra loom and some cutting of existing wire wraps to do it though.
The hood pin switch is in the latch mechanism itself. THis is why you see wires going up to it. There is a quick disconnect plug within a few inches of the hood mechanism, unplug it and your hood pin switch no longer works.
Speaking of, be carefull, the hood pinswitch wires run within a few inches of the opening at below the bumper. Very easy to reach in there and cut them (which will not set off the alarm, it's a normally open circuit). I re-reouted mine high and well out of reach. It took some extra loom and some cutting of existing wire wraps to do it though.
09-11-2003, 09:14 AM
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"The car will not start if hot wired. It requires the chipped key to match the transponder on the ignition system."
My '97 3.0 doesn't have transponder, so let me restate. If you hotwired my car, it would disarm the alarm and start.
My '97 3.0 doesn't have transponder, so let me restate. If you hotwired my car, it would disarm the alarm and start.
09-11-2003, 09:27 AM
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I think 98 2.3 don't have the chip either, I have the light with the key in it but the guy at the key shop looked it up and said there is no chip. I also don't see a chip on my key.
09-11-2003, 02:34 PM
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actually, i've tested it again, when the alarm goes off, the car won't start even w/ the key in the ignition. it won't turn it off either. i have a 97. no chip
09-11-2003, 07:54 PM
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it is in all actuallity a glorified keyless entry...i hate it, i just havne't been able to shill out the $$$ for a good viper system with all the goodies...interior sensor, window up&down modules....sigh...
09-11-2003, 08:04 PM
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Hell I cant get the damn thing to chirp on unlock and lock. How do you do that again so I can try it to change it on the key pad. Only when a door is not shut properly is when is does chirp so I know the damn siren works
09-12-2003, 04:58 AM
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Damn it I think something is wrong with my siren. This is the test I got. The keyremote seems to work correctly. The took the steps to turn on the siren and off. The Panic button does turn on the alarm, except no sound. The lights flash etc. When I lock the door and then open the lock and open the door the alarm goes off without siren.
Interesting items to note:
1) i know the driver side window switch was replaced right before I bought the car at the dealer.
2) my side door light in the corner doesn't turn on, and my driver side vanity mirror light doesn't go on.
Is the siren on the driver side and that the common ground is not working. Is that Y the siren might not turn on? Thanks
Interesting items to note:
1) i know the driver side window switch was replaced right before I bought the car at the dealer.
2) my side door light in the corner doesn't turn on, and my driver side vanity mirror light doesn't go on.
Is the siren on the driver side and that the common ground is not working. Is that Y the siren might not turn on? Thanks
09-12-2003, 10:22 AM
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Damnit, one of these days farely soon, i guess I am gonna rip out the factory alarm and have an aftermarket one professionally installed, complete with proximity sensors.
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