Hey, i think im going to go ahead and get a set of Ground Control Coilovers w/ Eibach Springs...It can lower me 0-3"...I know i will definitly need a camber kit but could i just use a camber kit for the front? Do i really EVEn NEED a camber kit for the rear??? I heard sence were front wheel drive, rear camber kits are a waste of $...what should i do???

ALso, anyone know anything about GroundControl Coilovers...ive heard their good and with eibach springs...i trust them...

 

I personally have to get a camber kit for the rear...you can get a camber print up at like sears or something and see exactly how bad your camber is....do you have any pics of your car...and i'm thinking about getting a R6 too lol, crazy....my friends ucle owns a yamaha dealership, so I may be getting it soon....also how old are you???

 

For some people washers will do the trick.

 

Thanks for the responces...

Kulcl3.0 : i live in kansas, and im 17...i'll be getting one next winter when bikes are cheaper (i'll be 18 then)

I'll buying these coilovers form a guy who had my exact car (year and model) and he only used a front camber kit...said he didnt need one in the back...should i go ahead and get one for the back???????? Do i really neeed one? he said sence were FWD i woudnt...

 

being FWD isnt really an excuse...ya, theres less riding on the rear but if your camber is way off back there you'll need it. i'd say, install the coilover's, ride on em a couple days, go get a camber print out at sears....then decide what you need

 

you will need both. Also, if you are getting the ground controls you better get shocks. I rode on them for a little while and didn't really care for the. But the ride would just be horrible on stock shocks.

 

is ot ok to mix 2 different brands of a camber kit then??? i mean like the front is like "brand XZY" and the rear camber kit brand is like ingalls or something?? does that work??? cuz im gonan have to buy a rear kit then....

 

yea that is fine

 

so wait...so like do u need 1 camber per wheel well...so like theres 4 assembly little things in all?? (cuz on ebay it says rear camber kit and its like 1 little metal assembly thingy...so what acutally is a camber kit? what does it look like and is there 1 little thingy per wheel well?? (sorry im reayy dumb when it somes to this camber stuff)

 

i am glad u asked this question, i was wondering the same thing, about camber kits in the back...

you will need 1 camber kit for each wheel and i know w/ my accord i could have used washers in the back instead of an actual camber kit...of course i found this out AFTER i paid out the ass for some stupid performance shop to install them for me...but you live and learn...

i have a stupid question too...you said you were getting Ground Control coilovers w/ Eibach springs...well i thought the springs came w/ the coilovers, do you have to buy them separately?

 

katie, the springs that GC uses are made by eibach.





Also, i've heard you can use washers or shims on the rear. Haven't seen it done though.

 

You can use washers on the rear because you guys have 94-97 accord suspension. Its a different from the newer ones. GC Coilovers are sleeve....so you need to get aftermarket struts/shocks whether they are adjustable or not. Just cuz one person didn't need a camber kit doesn't mean you won't. Every car is a little different, as is their set up with coilovers. An alignment will be needed to determine your camber. The kit might not be able to bring your camber all the way back within spec tho if you are super slammed. Plan on getting an alignment everytime you touch your coilvers for height adjustment.

My advice to you....set your height once...make sure you have the struts/shocks you want...and then bend the control arm...bout the same price as a camber kit, but its more solid...a camber kit will get loose after awhile...knocking your camber out of whack.

 

i see said the blind man...thanks ghander, i'm still in love w/ your car by the way

 

ok...lets talk...say i buy the GC coilovers and front camber kit...

than i can use washers for the back to save $???

then i know i have to get new shocks but do i have to get new struts too????

and then whats up with bending the control arm?? is that like fixable after u bend it????

This is gettin WAYYY outta hand...i just wanted to lower the car and now i have to buy a camber kit, then shocks, and then bend all this stuff...+ allinment and all this other crap!! this blows!! can ANYONE tell me what exactly i will have to do to get the damn car lowered??? (and how much this might all cost??...besides the GC and the camber kti cuz thats already $250)

 

i got a '99 2.3 and i got h &r lowering springs ($175 installed)and a revo technica camber kit (130$ including s/h)(front and back) and my camber is fine ,, i dont need new struts, shocks or have to bend anything

 

Struts = shocks


First, we are telling you to get new struts now to save you money in the long run. Because if you install the GCs now, it will cost you what? $100. Now install the camber kit at the same time as the GCs, say $40-60 for the install. You get it aligned after a month...$40-80. Now, if you install the struts later, you will have to pay another $100, and get another alignment...

Now, if you get it all done at once you save on the install and alignment costs.

Next, the bending the arm is a two-time deal, and should only be done by someone who has done it before. First, you need all your stuff installed...and your height at what you want it...if you get rims, get those first. Then you bend the control arm....to fix your camber problem. If you ever sell your car, you can remove all your stuff and bend it back. It's a thick piece of metal so it can stand some bending, but don't do it more than twice...once with the drop and once when you turn it back to stock. I only mention this type of camber adjustment, because the camber kits are subject to wear and tear, not to mention getting loose from everyday driving.

 

but i'll be lowering my lower than yours...i will definitly need new shocks...i donno about struts..i guess theose are different than shocks...i donno what struts look like and how much they cost...so yeah...

oh, where can i get the rubber washers for the rear camber????

 

you have struts all around...not shocks....to lower your car you'll need the following. your gc's, struts, and camber kit for the front and back. maybe you can get away with washers on the back, but if youre slamming it you'll need more than washers.....bending the controll arm is a fishy deal...i wouldnt do it. the problem you might run into if slamming your car on coilovers (slamming= more than 2 inches) is that the camber kit wont fit in the wheel well. so if you slam then maybe you have to bend your controll arm...that might be the only way. i'd recommend you not go lower than 2 inches....anything lower is rediculous......it just doesnt work

money wise-
expect to pay a bit to lower...i found this out when i did mine....
springs or coilovers are around 200
struts are around 300
camber is about 150 each (front and back) so 300
and labor? whatever, mine was free by me
and an alignment-depends 50-100$

 

Acura3.0CL:

i think the moomaster_99 said that shocks and struts are the same difference, so thats one less thing for you to worry about...

i know it's all confusing, but trust me, it's better you find out all this stuff now than afterwards...and btw you could always just throw the coil overs on your car and say fuck all the other stuff, if you want to replace your tires constantly and have a bumpy ride...it's better to do it right, but no one says you HAVE to...

 

aww comon now...it's not ridiculous, lowering more than 2 inches

my 94 accord was lowered about 2.5 maybe slighty more and the camber kits fit fine....so:P

 

thank u all soo much for your help...im really learning alot and im glad its now than when i run into problems later..thanks soo much for all the info...

i think i know what i will do...i'll buy the GC coilovers with the front camberkit. and when i install them, only drop the cl 1.75 all around...then use the rubber thingys in the back as a camber kit...

my question is...a prokit drops it what? 1.5? i dont think thats low enough for me...i want to drop it 1.75 but if i do that, (yes the springs have alreayd been settled) then how long will my shocks last at a 1.75 drop??? could i still use KYB AGX with a 1.75 drop??

 

i've got nuespeed sports and agx's and mine is 1.75 front 1.5 back....settled a lil' lower....its perfect...i've been riding on em without camber for about 6 months....so, if you wanna go that route you can...but i plan on buying a camber kit soon, cause i'd like to get it right...and get an alignment....i'll see if i can find a pic for you

 

ok, i found all the pics but i cant upload em.,,,so im done tryin.....anyway, katie...i slammed my ol' bug 4 inches so i know low...but it was an ol' bug and i felt like it was appropriate...i think any lower than 2 on a cl isnt right...JMO

 

yeah it's okay i was just messin' wit cha....and i dont know about no more than 2 inches...nothing brings me joy like seeing a slammed CL