OK.... my Headunit got stolen again...
09-12-2003, 02:01 AM
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OK.... my Headunit got stolen again...
THIS IS THE GOD DAM 5th time!!! FA~~K!!!
Now.... now i need some advise from my trusted A-CL.com members.... Is there any effective way other than the obvious(Lock doors, park in visible area, etc.) that I can do to prevent my car from being broken in or even stolen.......
As for an alarm... i'm looking for something under $200... whatz a good system??? and is it even worth it??
Thanx ALOT peeps....
Now.... now i need some advise from my trusted A-CL.com members.... Is there any effective way other than the obvious(Lock doors, park in visible area, etc.) that I can do to prevent my car from being broken in or even stolen.......
As for an alarm... i'm looking for something under $200... whatz a good system??? and is it even worth it??
Thanx ALOT peeps....
09-12-2003, 02:50 AM
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I have the Viper 550 ESP. It runs around $250 for the basics. I have remote start, windows up and down, proximity sensor, trunk release, and LED. All of this cost me around $500.
If they want your shit bad enough, they'll get it no matter what. There's no SURE way to prevent yourself against thieves. The only thing you can do is try to make yourself less vulnerable.
What kind kind of H/U did you have? I heard Eclipse are hard decks to steal.
If they want your shit bad enough, they'll get it no matter what. There's no SURE way to prevent yourself against thieves. The only thing you can do is try to make yourself less vulnerable.
What kind kind of H/U did you have? I heard Eclipse are hard decks to steal.
09-12-2003, 03:14 AM
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i've got the Viper 790XV, cost me around $600 for everything, all the sensors and all the other little bells and whistles, the remote pages me if my alarm goes off or somebody is pulling on the doorhandles. get some shaved doorhandles and bulletproof glass, that should keep em out!
09-12-2003, 05:00 AM
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I remember seeing somewhere a German car alarm system that shoots fire underneath the car when it is being broken in to...lol
I am thankful that i need not worry about theft where i live, but you can never be too sure. I was looking in to getting an alarm system as well, the stock one is..uh..yea, i was browsing around on ebay and i found some nice looking Viper ones.
I am thankful that i need not worry about theft where i live, but you can never be too sure. I was looking in to getting an alarm system as well, the stock one is..uh..yea, i was browsing around on ebay and i found some nice looking Viper ones.
09-12-2003, 05:48 AM
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LA probably has a lot of break-ins. I hear alarms don't do much good because the @#$%&%$#@ bastard theives bust out the window and in seconds they have your stereo and are on their way. Also, no one even notices alarms going off so the pussy crooks know they've got time. Tint might help though it might make the asslicker theives want to see what your trying to hide. Did they steal your stock stereo? I'd just put that back in. And if you are putting in new speakers, hide them under the stock grills- no need to advertise. And as for advertising, if you have stickers on your car with the manufacturer names of your equipment your car is just a bigger target. See the guys with the Rockford Fosgate sticker plastered across the top of their windshield? They just made themselves BIG targets. Good luck, man. That sure does suck! Did they bust a window out?
09-12-2003, 07:59 AM
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who got the best deal?
if your head unit is installed right it should be diffucult for them to take it, the way i ahve mine is taht they gotta take off the whole center console to get it out, you cant really stop thieves but you can SLOW THEM DOWN!! thats the point if they notice that its going to take them more than 5 minutes, they;ll say fuck it. its a combination of things, TINT-so they cant see inside ALARM- to scare them, you gotta have a siren that has a back up battery so if they cut the alarm it still goes off, and a siren inside the cabin!!!! this may sound insane but if you can make them go deaf they will run away from your car.
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09-12-2003, 08:00 AM
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who got the best deal?
how not to get jacked
• ALWAYS use common sense. Don't 'bump' where you live, esp. if you live in an apartment
• If at all possible, avoid putting any stickers on your car (be it performance or audio) they just scream "steal me! steal me!"
• If you go to car shows/soundoffs, I suggest removing your license plate temporarily. This will at least make it hard for people to remember your car is packing what gear(s)
• Consider getting dark limo tint and car cover. Remember - out of sight, out of mind.
• when you go to a mall or a store, turn down your system at least 2 miles BEFORE you get there. When a thief hears you bumpin down the road, he will follow you till you park and jack your equipment when you leave. Anybody who's desperate for money will do ANYTHING to steal something.
• Please Please Please install an alarm. I know about 30 people who pack thousands of dollars worth of competition-grade Audio Equipments in their SPL vehicles and they don't even have a $100 car alarm How stupid can you be..
• 'modify' your car alarm.. It might be an overkill, but I'll install 10 additional siren around the car - two inside the hood, two underneath beside the cat, two in the trunk, and four in the cabin. Thieves don't have enough time to cut all those wires while they're blaring 130bD.
• I betcha right now I can guess where you all have your alarm brains.. they're under the dash. right? that thing can be disabled in less than 5 seconds! Don't be a fool, move that brain somewhere hidden. Mine has mixed wire colors and false wires all around, Not even a professional installer can unload it.
• modify your Kickpanels to hide the hood release latch under the dash. Mine is covering the whole thing so you will have to reach inside the kicks to pop the hood. One time I took it in for an oil change it took the guy about 10 minutes to figure out where the hood release is This is extremely important so that the thief can't disconnect your +12 source and disable your alarm.
• I can't emphasize enough how extremely important security screws are. These are oddly-shaped head screws that you can get from any hardware store. Nearly ALL thieves carry a flat screwdriver and/or phillips screwdriver all the time. A hex or square head screw will definately slow them down. If your amp is bolted to the amp rack like this, there's NO WAY they can take your equipment.. but make sure your amp rack is bolted as well.
• Ask your insurance provider if they can cover your equipment.
• Be careful on who you show your system to... remember that every person is a possible thief. Even people who post here.
• Don't leave anything "interesting" inside your car (cellphone, jewelry, heck even a quarter) this will only attract passerbys that can possibly lead to theft.
• make sure all your fuses are good and have the right rating. Moreover, make sure your equipments are FUSED. In worst case scenario, after an equipment is stolen, wirings short out literally putting the car on fire.
The next time you roll down the parking lot, remember to keep them bass down cause having a system is like having sex--- you'll never know when you're gonna get jacked
Additional Tip: For those of you with websites about your ride... BE CAREFUL! That website can easily turn into a 'shopping catalog' for a thief. Try not to list personal information on the site (ie what city you live in, what school you go to). If you have any pictures of your ride, always blot out the licence plate. Also, if you have your own domain name try to use a different mailing address then the one your car is located at (ie Use a PO Box). Remember that's public information and can easily be obtained by doing a "WhoIs" report (http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois).
ALSO-- Manual fuel cut off switches.....hey they cost a freakin dollar. Invest in them. Its a simple cut and splice between the fuel pump line and will piss the hell out of anyone attempting to move your car.
Speaking of the hood, Hiding the hood pop switch is a step in the right direction but will only stop petty kids who are just f'ing around in the game. The real vulnerabillity is in the line that connects the lever to the hood pop mechanism...in most cars these are routed throught the driver side fender. Pull the plastic molding back strip the insulation and get a plier to pull the wire inside and POP ....you have an open hood.
solutions? reroute the wire somewhere else or add additional lines to confuse.
The main point is no matter what you cannot stop someone from getting into your car. You can SLOW them but not totally stop. There are big holes in the side of the car covered with glass....i believe people call these windows. Since it is imposible you to stop someone from getting in one should focus on slowing them down as much as possible as well as preventing the moving/disabling of the car.
An expensive alarm won't do much for you. They are all the same with some added bells and whistles. All you really need is a starter kill, and dual stage siren....an expensive alpine alarm with LCD screens does not do anything if it can be yanked from under the dash.
BUY A PEDAL LOCK
[someone] has thought many hours about this and still have yet to figure a way around it. The infomercial is correct. That pedal is made of some hard freakin steel. And even if you could manage to break the pedal off youd have to sit with your ass facing either up or our of the car for a long period of time....not something smart to risk..
Record time sawing through a steering wheel....48 seconds.
I don't know if alarm stickers (such as "Protected by Viper", etc) is a good idea or not. Some say it's a good deterrent, some say it makes it easy for code scanners to 'unlock' your code. If somebody knows more about this issue, please shed some light...
Another security feature that you can get is Wheel Locks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=1846139244 I don't know yet if it can be defeated, but it's worth a try.
LoJack is also a good investment. Although they run around $600 installed, you might get something in return from your insurance company just for having it. Also see 'peace of mind'
IMO, the *only* equipment that you cannot protect is your subwoofers. Whether you put a grille or not, if a thief can't pull it out, he will stab it with screwdriver. (reconing a sub is way cheaper than replacing it)
Good advice given above. I have had attempts to take tires and rims. The locks were hidden inside the hub cover. They took the covers but the rims and tires were still there. (Vibration sensor was turned off at the time).
I was hit again for the stereo at another time and place. Since I no longer own that vehicle, I will talk about it. Because of large trucks the vibration sensor was always off. This person knew vehicles and how to enter without making a mess or taking to much time. I won't go into how. They opened the door, popped the hood, and clipped the siren wires. They wanted the head unit. Only I had taken the covers off while the equipment was new and bolted the covers together. I had also installed the head unit by the sides inside the dash and not with the standard retainer knob mounts. They kept the knobs to let me know they wanted it. They did manage to get one amp out of three. They cut the seat cable and pried it off the floor under the seat. However they did not get the wiring harness so it didn't do them much good. I had removed the bench seat to do the amps install. The insurance company paid off within 3 days. Don't make life easy for a thief or they will make it difficult for you.
REMOVE YOUR STEREO'S FACEPLATE!! After parking and before leaving the car. Some car stereo owners don't even bother removing their aftermarket headunit's faceplate which is waiting for would-be thieves to possess. (Not applicable to those that own a headunit in which the face 'flips' into the dash).
The best car alarm to consider buying is Clifford, cuz one of their models carry an anti-carjack feature called, "BLACKJAX" in which the system sets a 'trap' by blaring the alarm and flashing the vehicle's lights which immobilizes your car after a thief drives off with it. I might buy that for my mom's car -- '89 Toyota Camry, cuz it's a 'hot' car for thieves.
remeber stealth is the key keep every thing as hiddine as possible
This was taken from another forum
http://forums.off-topic.net/showthre...not+get+jacked
• If at all possible, avoid putting any stickers on your car (be it performance or audio) they just scream "steal me! steal me!"
• If you go to car shows/soundoffs, I suggest removing your license plate temporarily. This will at least make it hard for people to remember your car is packing what gear(s)
• Consider getting dark limo tint and car cover. Remember - out of sight, out of mind.
• when you go to a mall or a store, turn down your system at least 2 miles BEFORE you get there. When a thief hears you bumpin down the road, he will follow you till you park and jack your equipment when you leave. Anybody who's desperate for money will do ANYTHING to steal something.
• Please Please Please install an alarm. I know about 30 people who pack thousands of dollars worth of competition-grade Audio Equipments in their SPL vehicles and they don't even have a $100 car alarm How stupid can you be..
• 'modify' your car alarm.. It might be an overkill, but I'll install 10 additional siren around the car - two inside the hood, two underneath beside the cat, two in the trunk, and four in the cabin. Thieves don't have enough time to cut all those wires while they're blaring 130bD.
• I betcha right now I can guess where you all have your alarm brains.. they're under the dash. right? that thing can be disabled in less than 5 seconds! Don't be a fool, move that brain somewhere hidden. Mine has mixed wire colors and false wires all around, Not even a professional installer can unload it.
• modify your Kickpanels to hide the hood release latch under the dash. Mine is covering the whole thing so you will have to reach inside the kicks to pop the hood. One time I took it in for an oil change it took the guy about 10 minutes to figure out where the hood release is This is extremely important so that the thief can't disconnect your +12 source and disable your alarm.
• I can't emphasize enough how extremely important security screws are. These are oddly-shaped head screws that you can get from any hardware store. Nearly ALL thieves carry a flat screwdriver and/or phillips screwdriver all the time. A hex or square head screw will definately slow them down. If your amp is bolted to the amp rack like this, there's NO WAY they can take your equipment.. but make sure your amp rack is bolted as well.
• Ask your insurance provider if they can cover your equipment.
• Be careful on who you show your system to... remember that every person is a possible thief. Even people who post here.
• Don't leave anything "interesting" inside your car (cellphone, jewelry, heck even a quarter) this will only attract passerbys that can possibly lead to theft.
• make sure all your fuses are good and have the right rating. Moreover, make sure your equipments are FUSED. In worst case scenario, after an equipment is stolen, wirings short out literally putting the car on fire.
The next time you roll down the parking lot, remember to keep them bass down cause having a system is like having sex--- you'll never know when you're gonna get jacked
Additional Tip: For those of you with websites about your ride... BE CAREFUL! That website can easily turn into a 'shopping catalog' for a thief. Try not to list personal information on the site (ie what city you live in, what school you go to). If you have any pictures of your ride, always blot out the licence plate. Also, if you have your own domain name try to use a different mailing address then the one your car is located at (ie Use a PO Box). Remember that's public information and can easily be obtained by doing a "WhoIs" report (http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois).
ALSO-- Manual fuel cut off switches.....hey they cost a freakin dollar. Invest in them. Its a simple cut and splice between the fuel pump line and will piss the hell out of anyone attempting to move your car.
Speaking of the hood, Hiding the hood pop switch is a step in the right direction but will only stop petty kids who are just f'ing around in the game. The real vulnerabillity is in the line that connects the lever to the hood pop mechanism...in most cars these are routed throught the driver side fender. Pull the plastic molding back strip the insulation and get a plier to pull the wire inside and POP ....you have an open hood.
solutions? reroute the wire somewhere else or add additional lines to confuse.
The main point is no matter what you cannot stop someone from getting into your car. You can SLOW them but not totally stop. There are big holes in the side of the car covered with glass....i believe people call these windows. Since it is imposible you to stop someone from getting in one should focus on slowing them down as much as possible as well as preventing the moving/disabling of the car.
An expensive alarm won't do much for you. They are all the same with some added bells and whistles. All you really need is a starter kill, and dual stage siren....an expensive alpine alarm with LCD screens does not do anything if it can be yanked from under the dash.
BUY A PEDAL LOCK
[someone] has thought many hours about this and still have yet to figure a way around it. The infomercial is correct. That pedal is made of some hard freakin steel. And even if you could manage to break the pedal off youd have to sit with your ass facing either up or our of the car for a long period of time....not something smart to risk..
Record time sawing through a steering wheel....48 seconds.
I don't know if alarm stickers (such as "Protected by Viper", etc) is a good idea or not. Some say it's a good deterrent, some say it makes it easy for code scanners to 'unlock' your code. If somebody knows more about this issue, please shed some light...
Another security feature that you can get is Wheel Locks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=1846139244 I don't know yet if it can be defeated, but it's worth a try.
LoJack is also a good investment. Although they run around $600 installed, you might get something in return from your insurance company just for having it. Also see 'peace of mind'
IMO, the *only* equipment that you cannot protect is your subwoofers. Whether you put a grille or not, if a thief can't pull it out, he will stab it with screwdriver. (reconing a sub is way cheaper than replacing it)
Good advice given above. I have had attempts to take tires and rims. The locks were hidden inside the hub cover. They took the covers but the rims and tires were still there. (Vibration sensor was turned off at the time).
I was hit again for the stereo at another time and place. Since I no longer own that vehicle, I will talk about it. Because of large trucks the vibration sensor was always off. This person knew vehicles and how to enter without making a mess or taking to much time. I won't go into how. They opened the door, popped the hood, and clipped the siren wires. They wanted the head unit. Only I had taken the covers off while the equipment was new and bolted the covers together. I had also installed the head unit by the sides inside the dash and not with the standard retainer knob mounts. They kept the knobs to let me know they wanted it. They did manage to get one amp out of three. They cut the seat cable and pried it off the floor under the seat. However they did not get the wiring harness so it didn't do them much good. I had removed the bench seat to do the amps install. The insurance company paid off within 3 days. Don't make life easy for a thief or they will make it difficult for you.
REMOVE YOUR STEREO'S FACEPLATE!! After parking and before leaving the car. Some car stereo owners don't even bother removing their aftermarket headunit's faceplate which is waiting for would-be thieves to possess. (Not applicable to those that own a headunit in which the face 'flips' into the dash).
The best car alarm to consider buying is Clifford, cuz one of their models carry an anti-carjack feature called, "BLACKJAX" in which the system sets a 'trap' by blaring the alarm and flashing the vehicle's lights which immobilizes your car after a thief drives off with it. I might buy that for my mom's car -- '89 Toyota Camry, cuz it's a 'hot' car for thieves.
remeber stealth is the key keep every thing as hiddine as possible
This was taken from another forum
http://forums.off-topic.net/showthre...not+get+jacked
09-12-2003, 09:20 PM
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werd....that post had alot of useful information....
sorry about your headunit, but your 5th one stolen...damn son..sounds like somebody likes your car...i'd be careful about who i'm hangin out with
sorry about your headunit, but your 5th one stolen...damn son..sounds like somebody likes your car...i'd be careful about who i'm hangin out with
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as for what Red99 says...
Hell yea thats a really good idea...
a siren inside the cabin!!!! this may sound insane but if you can make them go deaf they will run away from your car.
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